John Bodden Memorial Shooting Dog Classic -$3k Cash purse

Rodger · Post by **Rodger** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:05 pm

To be held at the Lake Murray grounds in Ardmore, OK following the NGSPA Quail Championship. The Quail starts on Jan 24th and the Bodden begins on Friday, Jan 31—February 1.

Bodden Info...
http://www.lsgspc.org/2008BoddenSpringFT.pdf

Premium for the LSGSPC Spring Trial Jan 31 - Feb 3rd.......
http://www.lsgspc.org/2008SpringArdmoreFTPremium.pdf

Rodger

Blue Dawn Kennel · Post by **Blue Dawn Kennel** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:16 pm

Hey Rodger~ We'll be there for all of it. Been working on entries for the Bodden and weekend trail and will get them in the mail on Monday to Keith. Look forward to seeing you and everyone down there and especially the Hudster. Looks like I'm down to just running puppies and derby's again as Tobad is fully retired from competition

I do have my female I kept out of Emmie & Cutter "Jewel" and then I have Aussie (Josey x Cutter) and Trader (Chloe x Jax) to look forward to plus I have Ivy also (after she is weaned on of her litter by Jax so will have lots to play with. TTYL and see you soon. Robbi

Ricky Ticky Shorthairs · Post by **Ricky Ticky Shorthairs** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:49 pm

What happened to Tobad?
Doug

Blue Dawn Kennel · Post by **Blue Dawn Kennel** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:05 pm

Doug~ I had noticed last year that he had started dropping his tail for no reason when had never done this before so I didn't campaign him all of 2007, took him into the vet and had his back x-rayed and he's got major arthritis set in in 2 differents spots on his spine. We have NO idea what/or when he was injured as he's never missed a day in his life of 4 1/2 yrs. and has never showed any signs of being hurt, or in any pain (well we thought had we known the tail dropping issue and the not being very aggressive anymore with breeding were signs of a problem. If I could go back I'd of had him into the vet imediately after the tail dropping signs started, guess you really do live and learn more than you think). 3 of the vertebra's back by his pelvis you can't even see where they begin and end at. Our main goal is to keep him comfortable with Remadyl and will let him run and have fun here at the house plus breed some females to him. We have to be careful with the breeding of him as well because of pain and problems with his spine. No breeding on slick surfaces, might have to help lower or higher the female ect.... or may just have to ai if he has a lot of problems. I'm planning on breeding him to my Toby female who is out of FC Slick Kessie Joe x NFC/FC Heidi Ho's MRT this spring/summer when she comes into heat. The people that have bred to him just love his pups and how natural with pointing, backing and retrieving they are as well as what awesome temperments they have too.

Ricky Ticky Shorthairs · Post by **Ricky Ticky Shorthairs** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:42 pm

Robbi~I'm so sorry to hear the bad news. I wondered why you weren't running him. You'll be glad to hear that his brother Rocky is throwing all of those traits in his puppies too. Rock will do his best to carry on the family name, as we are preparing him for national competition.
Doug

Blue Dawn Kennel · Post by **Blue Dawn Kennel** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:53 pm

I'll still be breeding him so he can carry on the family name as well. Have seen other good dogs retire early. We'll have fun getting some babies out of him in the future. Good luck w/ Rocky.

Robbi

Rodger · Post by **Rodger** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:50 am

Hey Rodger~ We'll be there for all of it. Been working on entries for the Bodden and weekend trail and will get them in the mail on Monday to Keith. Look forward to seeing you and everyone down there and especially the Hudster. Looks like I'm down to just running puppies and derby's again as Tobad is fully retired from competition I do have my female I kept out of Emmie & Cutter "Jewel" and then I have Aussie (Josey x Cutter) and Trader (Chloe x Jax) to look forward to plus I have Ivy also (after she is weaned on of her litter by Jax so will have lots to play with. TTYL and see you soon. Robbi

Rob, That's Tobad about himself. He'll still produce some very nice dogs though and still has a lot of time to do just that. You do have a bunch to play with tough and suspect your making room for one of the Kessie x Cutter/Jax pups too.

I'm really curious to see who is who from that breeding. IMO that double sire aproach is a really smart way to try and get the most out of a litter. Sould be neat to see how they turn out. Kessie is great dog and should throw some terrific pups.

Rodger

Blue Dawn Kennel · Post by **Blue Dawn Kennel** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:32 am

Yup, we're getting a female out of Kess and either Cutter or Jax, plus we have a male coming too out of Kate "NGDC/FC/NSDC/NASDC Sin City G Spot" and Jax too. Plus we have 2 other littermates to Jewel (avatar pic)(out of Emmie x Cutter) that we'll be looking for owners for Freddy (f) and Dan (m). Their really cool pups and are showing lots of potential. Guess time will tell.

Robbi

Blue Dawn Kennel · Post by **Blue Dawn Kennel** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:36 pm

Sounds like this Lone Star GSPC trial after the NGSPA Quail Championship is FULL FULL, I'm awaiting to see if they can get any of our entries in, supposed to let me know on Monday or Tuesday. Don't know if we'll stay if they can't get all our entries in (and I thought I got them into the club sec. early guess I needed to be a month earlier).

Blue Dawn Kennel · Post by **Blue Dawn Kennel** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:36 pm

Well just heard from the Lone Star sec. Keith Witt and we're in all but the OGD (as of right now said may be some scratches or they might be able to add a few braces). The weatherman is calling for snow on Monday, hope it goes north and misses us so we can head south on Tuesday. Sounds like it'll be a full house down there. Should be fun I'm ready to get away from here for a while.

Robbi

Rodger · Post by **Rodger** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:45 am

Here's the Event Catalog for the Bodden and LSGSPC Trial.

A bunch of nice dogs in this one.

http://www.lsgspc.org/2008SpringFT_Cat.pdf

Rodger

Post by **Greg Jennings** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:41 am

Robbi, Roger, Blake: Will see you there. I'm in Friday and out Sunday.

Best, Greg J.

Rodger · Post by **Rodger** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:56 pm

Any news from anyone yet? I hope to be up there on Sat.

Rodger

nrcgsp · Post by **nrcgsp** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:57 pm

I know that Keith and Robbi had ran one dog this afternoon, but picked it up after 2np's. I didn't get to talk to her to see what all was going on. You may know more already. They are up in the morning too I think. I'll try to catch her and find out. We are out of school tomorrow, so I have some time to catch up on some dog stuff and try to get in touch with AKC on DNA. That should be fun. Wish we could of had Kessie down there for the Bodden, but pups are just now 6 wks. so she would not have been in shape and would have really pushed it to even be able to be there. Oh well, maybe next year, since not sure she will have another litter. Hoping this one is the "good" one!

Good luck to all there.
Nancy

nrcgsp · Post by **nrcgsp** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:47 pm

Results of the Bodden:

1st: Eshod's Arkansas Lady h/Ray Doshe
2nd: BDK'S Robbin the Bank h/Keith Gulledge
3rd: Texas Flying Wizard h/Gene Mosely
4th: Eshod's Revolution h/Ray Doshe

Congrats to all. The remainder of the Lone Star Club trial runs Sat. and Sun.

Hotpepper · Post by **Hotpepper** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:38 pm

A big congratulations to Mr or Dr. Orville Williams. I think that Lady dog won the Continental Shooting dog in GA Last month. Won an open and finished, that girl is hot.

Pepper

snips · Post by **snips** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:42 pm

Yep, Ray called tonite pretty HI! Congrats to him and Doc!!! Actually I think Mav won the Continental, Lady won something else. I can't keep track of all of them.

Hotpepper · Post by **Hotpepper** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:51 am

I think that is right, Maverick was the winner. Did Rick go to the Bodden?

Pepper

snips · Post by **snips** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:58 am

Jerry, you talking about my Rick? He dropped Fritz off to Chuck Parietti on his way home frm Tx to put an Amateur FC on him.

larue · Post by **larue** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:59 pm

brenda how does that work? a pro owned dog being sent to another
to get his afc?
For no charge what so ever?

snips · Post by **snips** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:36 pm

Lots of Pro owned dogs get their AFC run by an Amateur. Yes, no charge.

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:39 am

Amateurs often run each others' dogs to help each other out. Can't be a charge, that would make the Am. running the dog a pro. I think there is a two dog limit in NGSPA, can't run more than two dogs in a trial that are not owned by you.

original mngsp · Post by **original mngsp** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:46 am

I think there is a two dog limit in NGSPA, can't run more than two dogs in a trial that are not owned by you

AKC has something similar to that too.

snips · Post by **snips** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:02 pm

Just to clarify, Rick (owner) is a Pro. Chuck is an Am. Thats why he is running him for Rick.

nrcgsp · Post by **nrcgsp** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:46 am

What is strange is that a dog pro owned can be ran by am. and get an AFC title, BUT they CAN NOT run in the Am. Gun Dog at Nationals being pro-owned!

Post by **Greg Jennings** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:43 pm

A slideshow from the LSGSPC Trial. If you see something you want, drop me a note and I'll send you the full-size picture.

http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/G ... 480b89.pbw

Greg J.

Hotpepper · Post by **Hotpepper** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:25 pm

Very Nice Greg. Lots of good shots. Did Ronnie Sales handle any dogs?

Pepper

Post by **Greg Jennings** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:24 am

Ronnie handled quite a few dogs. 3 or 4 just in the OGD. I know that the had a dog in the callback, which was Sun morning, but don't know how he made out. I left early Sun morning to catch my flight back.

The fellow in the red and black jacket in the pictures is Ronnie.

Best regards, Greg J.

larue · Post by **larue** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:26 am

I myself find that a pro owned dog being not allowed to run in the am championship as very logical.
The am event is supposed to be about am dogs, not pro owned dogs.
I also have very little doubt that in some cases there is some
type of payment,be it birds,training,ect going on when a am runs a pro's
dogs.This rule at least stops it at the national level.
I myself have never found a guy nice enough to take one of my dogs and campaign it for free,but obviously they can be found.

snips · Post by **snips** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:53 am

In this case it is a big feather in Chucks cap for Sam down the road. He is a proud Grandpa of his Sams get, not to mention a very nice person. Every title a dogs offspring gets helps them getting in the HOF. I have seen NFC's running in Amateur in order to get another title. Does not matter who the owner is, it is still an NFC. That does not seem too fair to me, but no rules against it. Fritz cannot get the points Amt get to cross over, he has to get the full 10 pts., it may have been set up that way to equal it out. You say it is about Am dogs, then maybe they should only allow dogs with AFC to run in the Am Nat'l.

Post by **ezzy333** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:51 am

Before we get too deep in this discussion, tell me what the Amateur status is refering to. I thought it refered to the handler and had no reference to the dog or the owner. The reverse of Larue's position would be that no Amatuer owned dog should be allowed to run with the pro's. I don't think that is right.

In my mind, Amatuer is strictly applied to the handler and it seems that is how it should be since most Amatuer owned dogs are trained by a pro.

Ezzy

nrcgsp · Post by **nrcgsp** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:42 am

We have been running trials for almost 15 years now, so I have been around this. What I meant by strange is they allow them in weekend stakes, and non-champship stakes to be run, which in turn can take away a placement for qualification in a stake that , that particular dog can not be entered in.
As far as people taking care of and running a dog for free. We have helped out friends of ours that are not able to make it to trials by taking their dog and running it and hauling it WITHOUT pay and if we ever needed it they would do the same. Even at trials, we may not be taking care of the dog, but they can not make it we don't mind to run the dog for them. And they don't mind helping us out. Happened just last week at the quail, we couldn't be there so a good friend of our Heath Kooima ran Buck for us in the asd and didn't mind a bit. You will find that there are people who will truely help when needed, and if it is to help put a title on a dog they are associated with through breeding they are usually WAY more than willing to help!

Blue Dawn Kennel · Post by **Blue Dawn Kennel** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:22 pm

Greg it was great getting to meet you in person. Sorry I didn't get to say bye as was out running a puppy.

To all here are the placements from the Lone Star Trail (the Bodden is the LGD):

Bodden LGD Memorial~

1st~ Eshod's Arkansas Lady~ Doshe
2nd~ FC BDK's Robbin The Bank~Gulledge
3rd~ FC/AFC Texas Flying Wizard
4th~ Eshod's Revolution~Doshe

All Age~

1st~Bar-B's Slick Rebel~Sale
2nd~withheld
3rd~BDK's Play Something Country~Gulledge
4th~withheld

OGD~

1st~ Chisholm Creek Riptide~Gulledge (FINISHED FC TITLE @ 2 1/2 YR.)
2nd~ Hi-Tailyn Electra Fly'n~Bodenstab
3rd~ withheld
4th~ withheld

Open Derby~

1st~ Rodie's Hi-Tailyn Jackson~Bodenstab
2nd~ Touchdown Kid (vizsla)~ R. Gulledge
3rd~ Texas Hoosier Girl~ T. Bomer
4th~ Texas Little Bit of Dixie~T. Bomer

Open Puppy~

1st~Free Flights Copper Head~Sale
2nd~Texas Little Bit of Dixie~ T. Bomer
3rd~ Texas Bushwacking Bud~K.Bomer
4th~ Texas Hoosier Girl~ T. Bomer

AGD~

1st~ withheld
2nd~ withheld
3rd~ Tree's Panhandle Sam~ Chad Baum
4th~ FC Slick's Cajun Desire~ Blake Biggs

Hoping I got Terry & Kirk's pups in the right placements. They have a mighty fine batch of young en's coming up. Jerry, that Indy should have a bright bright future ahead of her. I enjoyed watching her and their other pups. Terry & Kirk helped me out scouting for me in the Puppy & Derby while Keith was running GD.

Robbi

Post by **Greg Jennings** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:34 pm

Blue Dawn Kennel wrote:Greg it was great getting to meet you in person. Sorry I didn't get to say bye as was out running a puppy.

I enjoyed meeting you in person as well.

I skipped coming out Sunday so that I could catch an earlier flight back; my son asked me to watch the SuperBowl with him.

Greg J.

Blue Dawn Kennel · Post by **Blue Dawn Kennel** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:53 pm

Here's some pictures of the LSGSPC winners. Courtesy of brandibob (Scott Bodenstab). Thanks Scott I didn't get my camera out for picts.