What type of shotgun are you using for your bird hunts?
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I use a different gun depending upon what I am hunting and what the conditions are. Remington 870s or Browning Lite 12 and I really enjoy using my wife's gun. That is an Antonio Zoli Siver Snipe 20, which I bought her as a wedding present more years ago than I want to remember.
How many others can say they pulled one like that off?
How many others can say they pulled one like that off?
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For waterfowl and pheasants I use a Remington 11-87 12 ga that I bought back in the early 90"s. I also tend to use this gun for doves and crow as I tend to shoot it pretty well. For ruffed grouse I use a model 59 Winchester with a vr and the barrel cut back to 24" also in 12 ga. I'm looking hard a going to a 20 ga O/U maybe the Franchi SL.posting.php?mode=reply&f=86&t=19933#
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I use a 10 yr old Remington 1187 SuperMag for waterfowl and a 20 yr old Remington 870 Wingmaster for pheasant.
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I figured I'd bring this thread back from the dead.
My favorite guns are side by sides. I haven't hunted with anything else is many years. But in the past few years, I've got the bug to hunt all my upland birds with a .410. I've been hunting dove, quail, chukar, pheasant with a .410 for a few years now and I'm having a great time.
My most often used .410 sxs is a 1927 Ithaca NID ejector gun with 28" barrels (very rare as most are 26"). I bought it in Seattle a few years ago. Late last year, I stumbled on an internet ad for a gun in North Carolina with an identical description. I called to confirm the configuration. It was as advertised. So, I bought that one too. When I got the second gun, I noted that the serial numbers were 3 digits apart. A letter from the caretaker of Ithaca records indicated that the two guns were made on the same work order in the shop and processed together. One gun went to a dealer on the west coast and the other to the east coast. Today, they're back along side each other again after over 80 years.
Here's another favorite I've been using this last season. A Parker Reproduction 28ga with a set of aftermarket Galazan .410 barrels fitted.
My favorite guns are side by sides. I haven't hunted with anything else is many years. But in the past few years, I've got the bug to hunt all my upland birds with a .410. I've been hunting dove, quail, chukar, pheasant with a .410 for a few years now and I'm having a great time.
My most often used .410 sxs is a 1927 Ithaca NID ejector gun with 28" barrels (very rare as most are 26"). I bought it in Seattle a few years ago. Late last year, I stumbled on an internet ad for a gun in North Carolina with an identical description. I called to confirm the configuration. It was as advertised. So, I bought that one too. When I got the second gun, I noted that the serial numbers were 3 digits apart. A letter from the caretaker of Ithaca records indicated that the two guns were made on the same work order in the shop and processed together. One gun went to a dealer on the west coast and the other to the east coast. Today, they're back along side each other again after over 80 years.
Here's another favorite I've been using this last season. A Parker Reproduction 28ga with a set of aftermarket Galazan .410 barrels fitted.
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Man what a story, id love to get my hands on a 410 NID single trigger ejector gun. I have an ithaca/skb 600 O/U in 12, a Flues SxS 12, and an NID SxS 16. Next on the list is a SxS with single trigger and ejectors in something other than 12 guage. I love ithaca's, growing up 40 minutes from Ithaca NY its part of my life. Got 9 in the safe right now...
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ridenismo,
I found a 20ga NID Grade 3E (ejector) factory single selective trigger gun years ago. Pretty rare combination of options, but It had a broken stock that was repaired but the stock inletting was butchered beyond belief or repair. I bought it anyway because I wanted to "save" it. $3k later and it looks pretty nice. (ouch) Restocked to a straight stock (originally a pistol grip), and a beavertail forend (splinter originally). I think it's a 1926 ish gun. Had all the metal finishes redone at the same time. If you're an Ithaca gun fan, you need to have Walt Snyder's book. Amazon has them. Walt's a good guy and an expert on them, of course. He was the one that provided a letter for the 410 guns and their history. Anyway, the 20g 3E turned out very well and has taken some wild california valley quail and some South Dakota roosters.
Regarding 410 NID's with 28" barrels, I've asked a few lifelong collectors, including Walt Snyder about them. They are not recorded in the factory records and only one other 410 NID has been seen by the guys I asked and that was 40 yrs ago. That guy kept notes on guns he saw at gun shows decades ago. Nearly all the 410 NID guns, of which there were less than a 1000 made, were 26". Being ejector guns on top of that makes them worth quite a bit.
I found a 20ga NID Grade 3E (ejector) factory single selective trigger gun years ago. Pretty rare combination of options, but It had a broken stock that was repaired but the stock inletting was butchered beyond belief or repair. I bought it anyway because I wanted to "save" it. $3k later and it looks pretty nice. (ouch) Restocked to a straight stock (originally a pistol grip), and a beavertail forend (splinter originally). I think it's a 1926 ish gun. Had all the metal finishes redone at the same time. If you're an Ithaca gun fan, you need to have Walt Snyder's book. Amazon has them. Walt's a good guy and an expert on them, of course. He was the one that provided a letter for the 410 guns and their history. Anyway, the 20g 3E turned out very well and has taken some wild california valley quail and some South Dakota roosters.
Regarding 410 NID's with 28" barrels, I've asked a few lifelong collectors, including Walt Snyder about them. They are not recorded in the factory records and only one other 410 NID has been seen by the guys I asked and that was 40 yrs ago. That guy kept notes on guns he saw at gun shows decades ago. Nearly all the 410 NID guns, of which there were less than a 1000 made, were 26". Being ejector guns on top of that makes them worth quite a bit.
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Very nice 410!!. It's hard to find a Stevens. an Ithaca is like hitting the lottery..
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Ridenismo
Finding 410 NIDs is difficult. Finding 410 ejector NIDs is very rare. I have never seen a factory single trigger 410 NID. However Miller Triggers are being made and installed by Classic Gunstocks. Dan May informed me that he could install one in a 410 NID. In light of the value of my two guns, I've reconsidered. I value them in the area of $6-7k each maybe a bit more to the right guy. I'm basing this on the current listings of extractor 410s with 26" barrels listings from $4500 up.
There quantities manufactured of NID 410s were
790 field grade
64 grade 1
40 grade 2
7 grade 3
14 grade 4
6 grade 5
2 grade 7
1 Sousa grade
Finding 410 NIDs is difficult. Finding 410 ejector NIDs is very rare. I have never seen a factory single trigger 410 NID. However Miller Triggers are being made and installed by Classic Gunstocks. Dan May informed me that he could install one in a 410 NID. In light of the value of my two guns, I've reconsidered. I value them in the area of $6-7k each maybe a bit more to the right guy. I'm basing this on the current listings of extractor 410s with 26" barrels listings from $4500 up.
There quantities manufactured of NID 410s were
790 field grade
64 grade 1
40 grade 2
7 grade 3
14 grade 4
6 grade 5
2 grade 7
1 Sousa grade
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I know how rare ANY 410 NID Ithaca is, and realistically dont feel I'll ever have the opportunity or means to get my hands on one. That being said, its exactly why i dream about adding one to my collection. My chances are slim to non existant, but someday with a little bit of luck ill come across a 16 or 20 that i can afford. Until then I'll live vicariously through you guys and drool all over my computer, I'm envious!
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I just picked up a Beretta AL391 Urika 20ga for next season......auto bird blaster.....Huns beware.
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I enjoy shooting my SKB 280 20 Ga SxS more so than any of my other guns. I even use it for all my training. It is very light with no kick and seems to fit me well.
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I use my Benelli SBE II for everything from geese to grouse.
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I have a Benelli montefeltro 20 gauge, franchi affinity 12, and a Winchester superX 3 12 gauge. The wife is getting her hunter's safety this Spring so one of them will get used more than usual.
Still haven't bought an over and under yet, but I am sure it will happen.
Still haven't bought an over and under yet, but I am sure it will happen.
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for early grouse season I use the old Stevens 20 ga. SxS handed down from my dad and one I learned on as a kid. I later use a cheap Angelo Zoli 20 ga. O/U for later season grouse. for pheasant, my go to gun is a 12 ga. Benelli Montefeltro with an occasional Ruger Gold Label or Guerini Tempio as a second gun
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millerms06 wrote:I have a Benelli montefeltro 20 gauge, franchi affinity 12, and a Winchester superX 3 12 gauge. The wife is getting her hunter's safety this Spring so one of them will get used more than usual.
Still haven't bought an over and under yet, but I am sure it will happen.
Do you like the Affinity?
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One of the best auto loaders I shot. My favorite gun before that was a Benelli M1 super90. It is definitely worth every penny! And their customer service is probably the best I have had to deal with.ACooper wrote:millerms06 wrote:I have a Benelli montefeltro 20 gauge, franchi affinity 12, and a Winchester superX 3 12 gauge. The wife is getting her hunter's safety this Spring so one of them will get used more than usual.
Still haven't bought an over and under yet, but I am sure it will happen.
Do you like the Affinity?
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Beretta xplor lite.
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One that I've had for about 10 yrs that I won't be using for bird hunts again is this one. It's a 1926 .410 Lefever Nitro Special which sold for $15 new. They were hardwarestore guns and very plain. I found this one on GunsAmerica and it had been restocked, engraved and gold inlayed. Basically, a rediculous amount of money was dumped into it by the previous owner. But it had some mechanical problems. It was off face (loose) and one barrel shot off target by about a foot at 40 yds. I fixed all the problems and hunted it for half a dozen years and shot the occasional round of skeet with it. I bagged a lot quail and my first .410 killed wild SD rooster with it.
I've bought a number of sxs .410s that I like better and I hadn't shot this one in a year.
Yesterday, it went to a new home. Sad to see it go, but I got a good price for it.
I've bought a number of sxs .410s that I like better and I hadn't shot this one in a year.
Yesterday, it went to a new home. Sad to see it go, but I got a good price for it.
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Tri-star 3.5 in. 12 gauge Mag Hunter. Cheap, durable, dependable, and swings nicely. It's all I use, with the exception of my Remington 870 in 20 gauge for dove.
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An old Sauer 16 ga....if I miss twice, the bird wins.
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Those old Sauer's are built like bank vaults and finely fitted mechanisms too.
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Beretta o/u and autoloaders with the exception of one franchi auto in 28ga.
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my go to field gun is a franchi renaissance sporting
my main workhorse for waterfowl is the Benelli Super Black Eagle 2
back up waterfowl gun is the Beretta a400 unico extreme
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my main workhorse for waterfowl is the Benelli Super Black Eagle 2
back up waterfowl gun is the Beretta a400 unico extreme
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Dad gave me a new JC Higgins Model 20 pump 12 ga with powerpac chokes in 1958. I used it 30 to 40 days a year hunting upland for 50 years. Gave it to my grand daughter in 2008. She has used it 200 days hunting waterfowl. I always shot well with it. I have a 20 gauge Beretta Silver Hawk SXS now and I am trying to trade with my grand daughter to get my old model 20 back.
Best gun is the one that fits and that you shoot well.
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I'm a right-handed person who shoots lefty due to my eye dominance being left. For ruffed grouse and other upland birds, I regularly use my Ithaca M37 Featherlight in 16ga. I received it as a birthday gift when I turned 13 - 41years ago! It's a look and shoot gun for me. However, I like to mix it up and miss with several others. For one, an old Bernadelli folding shotgun in 20ga. It's a single shot hammerless - the trigger guard slides rearward to break the action - and weighs maybe 3 pounds. It's cast a lot for righties, and I can't hit a "bleep" thing with it. I used it for long hunts because it weighs less than the shells in my jacket. I hesitate to try hot oil bending, because the stock is so delicate.
I also use a custom Huglu (pre-CZ) SxS in 12ga., English stock. My gun broker ordered it with a raw receiver and had Doug Turnbull case color it, in the hopes of regular production runs. I'm pretty sure it's the only Huglu he did, because right after that Huglu got funny with importation and CZ got the rights. Beautiful gun if you don't inspect the barrel bluing! I can actually hit birds with it, which is a plus.
For turkeys and pheasant I also use an M37 in 12ga with exhibition-grade wood. It's a nice gun, but with a vent rib, I don't point with it the same I do with the 16ga.
I also use a custom Huglu (pre-CZ) SxS in 12ga., English stock. My gun broker ordered it with a raw receiver and had Doug Turnbull case color it, in the hopes of regular production runs. I'm pretty sure it's the only Huglu he did, because right after that Huglu got funny with importation and CZ got the rights. Beautiful gun if you don't inspect the barrel bluing! I can actually hit birds with it, which is a plus.
For turkeys and pheasant I also use an M37 in 12ga with exhibition-grade wood. It's a nice gun, but with a vent rib, I don't point with it the same I do with the 16ga.
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1923 LC Smith Trap Grade. 20ga with 26" barrels.
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1955 my dad gave me a JC Higgins Model 20 12 Gauge Pump with Pachmayr Power Pack for my birthday (10 Years). I've used it every year since. Noticed how heavy it really is a few years ago and bought a CZ Bobwhite 28 gauge for Quail hunting, but still use the pump for Ducks and quail.
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Mossberg 500 12ga for waterfowl and small game. H+R Excell Auto 12ga for just about everything else that flies. I just bought my first 20ga, mostly for my wife, and plan to try it for doves and quail this year.
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I use my trusty Remington 870 12ga. I had a Wingmaster in 20ga for a while but sold it because I wasn't crazy about the fixed full choke... Wish I would have kept it.
I was saving up to buy either a Citori or Beretta 686 but ended up buying a dog instead. Definitely a better purchase to further my hunting career haha. Someday I will get a nice O/U.
I was saving up to buy either a Citori or Beretta 686 but ended up buying a dog instead. Definitely a better purchase to further my hunting career haha. Someday I will get a nice O/U.
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I primary only hunt grouse and pheasant and use a Beretta AL390 Silver Mallard that I've had for about 20 years. After a goose hunting trip this year where I ended up with a clump of mud jammed in the trigger assembly and saw how well other peoples 3.5" shells were knocking them down I also bought a Winchester SXP that will be my goose and bad weather gun. I tried it once so far while pheasant hunting and it's hard to remember to pump after shooting a semi for so long
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I shoot quail and pheasants with a 28 ga Ugartechea sxs, and have for years, even SD pheasants. It is IC/Mod, shoot an ounce of 5's on pheasants. I recently got a Fausti Dea SL 20 ga sxs that I like a lot, so may use it some, but the 5-lb weight of the Uggie is pretty attractive! I shoot my old 1100 trap for ducks, usually shoot Kent Bismuth. If I could shoot lead, I'd find something different.
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I am still using a Ruger Red Label 20ga with an original blued receiver with fixed chokes skeet/skeet. I have mostly hunted over pointing dogs so, the fixed chokes are fine. I also hunt in areas with woodcock filghts.
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I have a Beretta Silver Pigeon O/U, 870 express pump, and a Stoeger Uplander Supreme SxS - all 12 ga.
My Beretta looks nice, the pump makes a nice sound in the event of intruders, but I only hunt with side by sides.
My Beretta looks nice, the pump makes a nice sound in the event of intruders, but I only hunt with side by sides.
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I use a 1948 ou Velmet skeet /skeet 16ga. 5.5 lbs for quail. Browning Cintori ou 20ga for all other. Have a 1939 16 ga mod 31 Remington modified with a Herters, broadway rib and poly choke, but I would rather have the light guns than the 3rd shot.
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Currently Im using an 870 for reliability sake since I mainly hunt marshes for duck but I had a Charles Daly 600 growing up that I honestly preferred over our 1100s. Cheaper, lighter, noticeably less punishing on days that required a lot of shooting, and a button on the side to chamber a shell so nobody ever pinched their fingers lol. Not the type of gun you hand down but for an all around hunting gun you can beat up it had great value. Killed hundreds of birds with mine but Charles Daly guns reliability seem to vary based on when it was manufactured. Theyve definitely been making improvements in their newer products from what Ive heard. Not much of an issue either way since they come with a lifetime warranty as well.
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12 ga. 870 is my go to gun. Stoeger Uplander 20ga for grouse and quail.
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Ever since I had my Citori Feather Lightning's LOP shortened a bit I shoot it great. It's a 20g and weighs 6.0lbs. Actually considering selling my Merkel 20 SxS as I never carry it anymore.
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Ruger Red Label 12 or Benelli M1 super 90 depending on the weather and what I am hunting. I have also got a Stevens 20 side by side that sees a little action occasionally.
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I shoot a 69 model Winchester101 12 gauge that has a full set of tubes 20,28, and 410. I shoot 20 and 28 the most., A 72 Ithaca model37 20 gauge feather weight. And a Mossberg 500 3" 12 gauge that's my coyote and turkey gun.
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Saved up paper route money to buy a Sears JC Higgins Model 20 12 Gauge Pump in 1959. Used it on all hunts until 2012. Got old and tired of carrying the 8.5 pound gun around. Have a two Setters with great noses, so I started using a 5.5 pound CZ Bobwhite 28 Gauge and let the dogs do the work to get me within range.
Still use the Model 20 for ducks over water, but jump shoot field ducks with the Bobwhite, and yes the Setters do point and retrieve the field/ditch ducks, except in real cold weather.
Still use the Model 20 for ducks over water, but jump shoot field ducks with the Bobwhite, and yes the Setters do point and retrieve the field/ditch ducks, except in real cold weather.
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Bought a BPS 12 gauge stalker with engraving when I was 14 or 15 and hunted with that until 2017, just had it cerakoted to clean it up a bit, kept it black but had them drop silver in the engraving...looks fantastic.
Bought a BPS 12 Gauge Upland special with a english straight stock and 22" barrel and it isn't to much lighter but it swings so quick with quail in nasty brush, I'm loving it.
Someday I'll graduate to an O/U or SxS lol...
I use the longer barrel BPS for ducks only now.
Bought a BPS 12 Gauge Upland special with a english straight stock and 22" barrel and it isn't to much lighter but it swings so quick with quail in nasty brush, I'm loving it.
Someday I'll graduate to an O/U or SxS lol...
I use the longer barrel BPS for ducks only now.
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20ga Beretta 686 Onyx. 21 years old this season and never one issue. Have killed everything from quail to goose with it although now for quail I use a 28ga Renato Gamba Princepessa SxS.
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AtTheMurph wrote:20ga Beretta 686 Onyx. 21 years old this season and never one issue. Have killed everything from quail to goose with it although now for quail I use a 28ga Renato Gamba Princepessa SxS.
Nice gun.But ..you really shoot goose with a 20? Hevi-shot increases striking power (I've occasionally used it on pheasant with a 20),but..geese?
I mostly shoot a Browning BSS Sporter (straight stock:28") with Briley thinwall chokes. The Brileys really increase the flexibility of the gun. If it were pheasant, I'd use a 16 or 12g.
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Best looking gun in the Beretta line-up hands down IMO, unfortunately the lumber is lacking in most cases.AtTheMurph wrote:20ga Beretta 686 Onyx. 21 years old this season and never one issue. Have killed everything from quail to goose with it although now for quail I use a 28ga Renato Gamba Princepessa SxS.
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Waterfowl - Benelli M2
Dove shooting early season 410 Browning Skeet Citori , late season the Benelli.
Dove shooting early season 410 Browning Skeet Citori , late season the Benelli.
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Re: What type of shotgun are you using for your bird hunts?
I've got an Ithica mod 37 in 16ga that I've never fire! Also have three AyA Matador's in 16ga, 28ga and 410. Hunting I generally take my 28ga and either the 16 or if looking for grouse, the 410. Been lot of years since I've fired anything other than a SxS.
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I have a Benelli Super Black Eagle that is fantastic for upland and ducks. Love it. It's the original model with a wood stock, but a wetlands camo version would be fun to have.
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Guys that are serious about golf like their Callaway, Ping, Taylormade clubs. Typically, they are playing at a certain level and the extra $$$ contributes to their experience if not their handicap. Guns are not dissimilar in this regard, IMO.
I feel an upland bird gun should be a bit like a lady - sleek, svelte, nimble and with curves in the right places. Having a gun that simply goes "boom" when I pull the trigger deprives me of my over-all experience - and not just because it makes me a better shot. Then again, if you have never had this experience, you don't miss it.
I also believe that anything that shoots 3 rounds is best saved for waterfowling.
I shoot an older Bernardelli Roma 6E with 27 1/2" barrels - fixed chokes (again, my preference) in 20 gauge. I have used it effectively from game farm pheasants/chukars to wild grouse, woodcock, Bobwhite, Huns, sharptail, chickens, Gambels, Mearns, scalies.
Any issues I might have with this gun are co-incidentally in close proximity to the stock, trigger and forestock.
I feel an upland bird gun should be a bit like a lady - sleek, svelte, nimble and with curves in the right places. Having a gun that simply goes "boom" when I pull the trigger deprives me of my over-all experience - and not just because it makes me a better shot. Then again, if you have never had this experience, you don't miss it.
I also believe that anything that shoots 3 rounds is best saved for waterfowling.
I shoot an older Bernardelli Roma 6E with 27 1/2" barrels - fixed chokes (again, my preference) in 20 gauge. I have used it effectively from game farm pheasants/chukars to wild grouse, woodcock, Bobwhite, Huns, sharptail, chickens, Gambels, Mearns, scalies.
Any issues I might have with this gun are co-incidentally in close proximity to the stock, trigger and forestock.
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