How many? X-Ray pic!!
How many? X-Ray pic!!
Any guesses how many?
She's HUGE!!
She's HUGE!!
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Re: How many?
At least 10!!! I would guess - 11. How much does she weigh without pups? She's a Fatty!!!! Good Luck!
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Re: How many?
I don't think she is going to have puppies, She ate a big ole watermellon. What is her normal weight?
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Re: How many?
That's Sarah and those are frozen semen Guard Rail pups. She normally weighs in at 46-47 lbs. Last time she was this big she had 14. Wouldn't that be something!
Going in for a head count x-ray on Monday and she is due to whelp on Wednesday.
Going in for a head count x-ray on Monday and she is due to whelp on Wednesday.
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Re: How many?
8.......5m &3F....and one watermelon.....
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Re: How many?
I am laughing each time I see this. Can she even walk right now? What is the whelp date?
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Good luck.
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Re: How many?
wow so much for frozen semen breedings and small litters, i bet she is pissed at you right now lol
Re: How many?
13- 8 females 5 males
very nice before picture- now- "you wanted lots of babies right"
very nice before picture- now- "you wanted lots of babies right"
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Re: How many?
Got ya. Yeah, I hope all goes well with that litter. That's a high dollar litter there. Good luck and hope everything goes good!
My guess, 11 pups.
My guess, 11 pups.
Old dogs, children, and watermelon wine
Re: How many?
If she is AI'd what process did you use?
I am guessing no more than 8 pups...... We need to start a poll and the winner gets a free pup! As said my guess is 8.....
I am guessing no more than 8 pups...... We need to start a poll and the winner gets a free pup! As said my guess is 8.....
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Re: How many?
If we guess it right do we win a puppy? Ha ha. I'm guessing 11 pups, lose a male making it 10 and 6f and 4m. How's that for a guess.
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Re: How many?
She has to build momentum to roll over far enough to get her legs under her before she can stand. Hard to believe that I had her in condition and entered in the SC OSD Championship in December. Had to scratch her because she came in. Now look at her!I am laughing each time I see this. Can she even walk right now? What is the whelp date?
Re: How many?
Yawallac wrote:That's Sarah and those are frozen semen Guard Rail pups. She normally weighs in at 46-47 lbs. Last time she was this big she had 14. Wouldn't that be something!
Going in for a head count x-ray on Monday and she is due to whelp on Wednesday.
Lord willing, you are definately going to get your money's worth.
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Re: How many?
I had my Maggie x-rayed and ultra sound 1 day before and all we saw on both were 6 pups,she had 12. good luck
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Re: How many?
I'll guess a lucky 13
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Re: How many?
I guess 12.
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Re: How many?
All right! Great idea. I'm for that!TAK wrote:If she is AI'd what process did you use?
I am guessing no more than 8 pups...... We need to start a poll and the winner gets a free pup! As said my guess is 8.....
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Re: How many?
Tak remember that eating an apple through a picket fence comment you made.Now you asking for a free one!!
I say 10
Oh if I win I want a LVR & White one,want it's tail docked when it's 3 days old!!
I say 10
Oh if I win I want a LVR & White one,want it's tail docked when it's 3 days old!!
Re: How many?
Spoke with the vet and I'm taking her for the x-ray in the AM. If there are a lot (which sure seems the case) I've decided to elective c-sec them out on Tues.
Tak, surgical AI. We put the semen directly on the eggs three days after ovulation. The semen was only 40% motility after thaw. I was worried we might not even get a pup! Sarah's eggs must have grabbed the sperm by their tails and slapped them across the face and yelled, "Wake up!!" ...nevermind.
Tak, surgical AI. We put the semen directly on the eggs three days after ovulation. The semen was only 40% motility after thaw. I was worried we might not even get a pup! Sarah's eggs must have grabbed the sperm by their tails and slapped them across the face and yelled, "Wake up!!" ...nevermind.
Re: How many?
Wow, I agree with Vagas and say 11.
Lets see 11 x $$$$$$ = Holy crap !!!
Great idea on the C-section, why risk lossing any of the pups.
Do you know at what age Guard Rail was when he was collected for the donation ?
I don't mean this is a mean way to Sahara, but she looks like Octa-Mom
Lets see 11 x $$$$$$ = Holy crap !!!
Great idea on the C-section, why risk lossing any of the pups.
Do you know at what age Guard Rail was when he was collected for the donation ?
I don't mean this is a mean way to Sahara, but she looks like Octa-Mom
Re: How many?
Smart idea to have a c-section done!
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Re: How many?
vzkennels wrote:Tak remember that eating an apple through a picket fence comment you made.Now you asking for a free one!!
I say 10
Oh if I win I want a LVR & White one,want it's tail docked when it's 3 days old!!
Ohh heck I talk all tough and such.... But if it was going to be a kick arse dog... I happen to like Kick Arse dogs!
Re: How many?
Yawallac wrote:Spoke with the vet and I'm taking her for the x-ray in the AM. If there are a lot (which sure seems the case) I've decided to elective c-sec them out on Tues.
Tak, surgical AI. We put the semen directly on the eggs three days after ovulation. The semen was only 40% motility after thaw. I was worried we might not even get a pup! Sarah's eggs must have grabbed the sperm by their tails and slapped them across the face and yelled, "Wake up!!" ...nevermind.
LOL!!!!!! How many straws did you use? One of them McDonalds straws?!!!!!!
Re: How many?
Hey man... I talked to your Vet today... He said he was trying to get ahold of you. There was a mix-up at the juice bank and your dog has Great Dan pups in her! At least half that is....
Re: How many?
Yawallac wrote:Sarah's eggs must have grabbed the sperm by their tails and slapped them across the face and yelled, "Wake up!!" ...nevermind.
Spoken like a true southern redneck!!!!
Did you post a pedigree?
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Re: How many?
My vet is a reproduction specialist and she is doing another c-sec the same day, of Bulldog pups!! I said please don't mix them up in the maternity ward!! I mean, how could you tell them apart!?!?There was a mix-up at the juice bank and your dog has Great Dan pups in her! At least half that is....
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Re: How many?
She is huge. Ill guess 14 at my chance to win a pup out of possibly one of the best pointer breedings this year!!HAHAHAHA
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Re: How many?
10 big Guard Rail pups. (those are going to be something)
Re: How many?
Ross, are these pups more novolties than anything else. $5000 a for a pup that can only eat and poop is rediculouse. Surely, you could find a better performing studdog than him for Sara.
No offense but what I said may sound offensive. It seems You base your whole line on Ko Kane but ignore the fact that she is a Miller bred gyp and focus and promote Guard Rail. Your kennel seems to have no real bloodline, just alot of outcross breedings. My next question is why don't you handle Jack sinse he's your dog. That is the fun for me, without that, the hard work would not seem very gratifying.
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No offense but what I said may sound offensive. It seems You base your whole line on Ko Kane but ignore the fact that she is a Miller bred gyp and focus and promote Guard Rail. Your kennel seems to have no real bloodline, just alot of outcross breedings. My next question is why don't you handle Jack sinse he's your dog. That is the fun for me, without that, the hard work would not seem very gratifying.
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Re: How many?
Ron,
No offense taken. All fair questions and I'll glady answer them.
Remarkably, I have received many requests for the pups at that price. I probably need to raise it.
I couldn't disagree more. Guard Rail is an incredible producer 42-286-2703 and his motherline is legendary.
Next is Sally. She is a Miller's White Powder daughter bred to a Guard Rail Daughter.
Next is Bug. She is a White Powder daughter bred to a Rail Dancer daughter.
Next is Liz. She is a Guard Rail daughter bred to a Go Boy daughter (Nell's Rambling On dbl).
Next is Cissy. She is a Guard Rail daughter bred to a Go Boy daughter (Nell's Rambling On dbl).
Next is Magic. she is a Go Boy daughter bred to a Guard Rail daughter (Nell's Rambling On dbl).
I co-own and manage the kennel and co-own the Plantation. I have too many responsibilities here to go on the road. We are however, putting a trial schedule together that will allow me to compete in the SE next year. It's a goal for sure.
No offense taken. All fair questions and I'll glady answer them.
A lot of people knew about the breeding and we didn't have intentions of selling the pups so I put a high price on them to dissuade any calls.Ross, are these pups more novolties than anything else. $5000 a for a pup that can only eat and poop is rediculouse.
Remarkably, I have received many requests for the pups at that price. I probably need to raise it.
Surely, you could find a better performing studdog than him for Sara.
I couldn't disagree more. Guard Rail is an incredible producer 42-286-2703 and his motherline is legendary.
You need to look deeper... 'Girl' is a Guard Rail Daughter. Her dam is Ko Kane. If you believe in 'motherlines' there is no better bred female anywhere. Her topside motherline is Nell's Rambling On and her bottomside motherline is Wiggins Miss sammie. It just doesn't get any better than that.It seems You base your whole line on Ko Kane but ignore the fact that she is a Miller bred gyp and focus and promote Guard Rail.
Next is Sally. She is a Miller's White Powder daughter bred to a Guard Rail Daughter.
Next is Bug. She is a White Powder daughter bred to a Rail Dancer daughter.
Next is Liz. She is a Guard Rail daughter bred to a Go Boy daughter (Nell's Rambling On dbl).
Next is Cissy. She is a Guard Rail daughter bred to a Go Boy daughter (Nell's Rambling On dbl).
Next is Magic. she is a Go Boy daughter bred to a Guard Rail daughter (Nell's Rambling On dbl).
What?Your kennel seems to have no real bloodline, just alot of outcross breedings.
I bred, raised, trained and broke Jack. I ran him his first year in horseback, NBHA, UBH and even put a NAVHDA NA on him.My next question is why don't you handle Jack sinse he's your dog. That is the fun for me, without that, the hard work would not seem very gratifying.
I co-own and manage the kennel and co-own the Plantation. I have too many responsibilities here to go on the road. We are however, putting a trial schedule together that will allow me to compete in the SE next year. It's a goal for sure.
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Re: How many?
Yawallac wrote:Ron,
No offense taken. All fair questions and I'll glady answer them.
Ross, are these pups more novolties than anything else. $5000 a for a pup that can only eat and poop is rediculouse.
Very impressive how you answered these questions without acting like it got under your skin a little!!
I think it is really alot about what you are into, if you are into dogs, you are going to spend more money on a better bred pup, if your into guns your going to spend $2000 for the big name instead of buying the $500 gun that will do the same thing. My wife would not bat an eye about dropping $500 on a COACH purse but does not understand me spending $500 or more on a pup. It is all about your hobbies are!!
Sure $5000 may be a little steep for a pup, but there probably are not alot of Guard Rail pups going to be born this year, (and from the pic it looks like more than expected) and even less in the future (depending on how much seamon is left on him). But if you look at the prices of pups, $400 - $600 for average, $750 plus for a pup out of a champion sire, $1000 plus for a pup out of a champoin sire and dam, Guard Rail is in the Hall of fame so shouldnt his pups be priced higher
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Re: How many?
I think there was only 3 straws of Guard Rail Juice before Ross was able to get a hold of one. They may be worth 5k. They're worth whatever someone will pay for him. For some folks 5k isn't a lot. Takes me a week to decided if I can throw 500 into a dog .
I'm glad you're trying to hang on to some Ross. I will be fun to watch what you do with them.
I'm glad you're trying to hang on to some Ross. I will be fun to watch what you do with them.
Re: How many?
12 Volt Man wrote:I think there was only 3 straws of Guard Rail Juice before Ross was able to get a hold of one. They may be worth 5k. They're worth whatever someone will pay for him. For some folks 5k isn't a lot. Takes me a week to decided if I can throw 500 into a dog .
I'm glad you're trying to hang on to some Ross. I will be fun to watch what you do with them.
Only a week? Heck it is like a year long save my lunch money the wife lets me have... And only if I rat hole the stuff! She found my stash a few months ago... So she is going to punish me and take herself on a Cruise! I had enough for two people......................I didn't have enough for me to go.....
Re: How many? X-Ray pic!!
From what I can tell 13 ????
WOW !!
WOW !!
Re: How many? X-Ray pic!!
Holy $h!t! That gave me a headache before i got done!!!! Just tell us! 11-12?
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Re: How many? X-Ray pic!!
First time I've ever seen one of these, but 15?
Re: How many? X-Ray pic!!
holy crap i'm going with 14 pups as that seems to be her number. You better start making more kennels if your growing them all out.
Re: How many? X-Ray pic!!
ross are you going to go with the c-section, either way i wish good luck to sara and all those pups.
Re: How many? X-Ray pic!!
WOW!!! I'm thinking 13!
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Re: How many? X-Ray pic!!
I am staying with 14
Re: How many? X-Ray pic!!
Here is the full size version. I'm seeing more spines!
http://www.caladenkennels.com/gallery/s ... llsize.jpg
Craig, elective c-sec on Tuesday.
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Craig, elective c-sec on Tuesday.
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Re: How many? X-Ray pic!!
I see 13 skulls but my bet is on 14 as there are usually more than you can actually see on the xray!!
Ron,
I think Ross's breeding program is speaking for itself with his dogs doing well in FT's and NAVHDA!! From seeing his dogs and talking with him he has goals and is well on his way to achieving them. Ross is a VERY hard worker on the plantation. He is busy from sun up to sundown. It would be very hard for him to be able to manage the place and train dogs if he were out on the FT circuit.
Ron,
I think Ross's breeding program is speaking for itself with his dogs doing well in FT's and NAVHDA!! From seeing his dogs and talking with him he has goals and is well on his way to achieving them. Ross is a VERY hard worker on the plantation. He is busy from sun up to sundown. It would be very hard for him to be able to manage the place and train dogs if he were out on the FT circuit.
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Re: How many? X-Ray pic!!
I think there are at least 15 showing but several look quite small. Thats more than I would have guessed but hope they all are ok and growing but be prepared to have a few runts at birth.
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Re: How many? X-Ray pic!!
I'm counting 12 skulls & 12 spines...........
So I'm saying 12 !!!!
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So I'm saying 12 !!!!
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Re: How many? X-Ray pic!!
Ross is a class act and has great dogs, I never questioned that. He is also a great breeder and trainer.CherrystoneWeims wrote:I see 13 skulls but my bet is on 14 as there are usually more than you can actually see on the xray!!
Ron,
I think Ross's breeding program is speaking for itself with his dogs doing well in FT's and NAVHDA!! From seeing his dogs and talking with him he has goals and is well on his way to achieving them. Ross is a VERY hard worker on the plantation. He is busy from sun up to sundown. It would be very hard for him to be able to manage the place and train dogs if he were out on the FT circuit.
Congtats on all those pups
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