NGSPA Can-Am

Hotpepper · Post by **Hotpepper** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:08 am

Who is going to or is going to be at the Can-Am? I called and made entries for the trial that starts on the 12th at Killdeer Plains Ohio.

Just looking to meet some of the crowd on here.

Pepper

Post by **pear** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:32 am

Bad weekend I'll be between Wilminton at the NSS HT, Work, and then Sunday at Bloomingdale for the GSP of Ohio Trial Don't even know if I can make all that.... Froze out on my trip to NW Ohio to meet up with some of the guy's was 27 and snowing when I looked at the dogs and said, lets stay in where it's warm... They seemed to agree

... "pear"

Post by **ezzy333** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:52 am

Pear

We have had that weather for several days now and stilldown in the mid twenties every night. It's 30 degrees now at noon. What happened to summer? Probably that d@M GLOBAL WARMING.

Ezzy

Post by **pear** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:20 pm

I kinda like the thought of global warming myself.... LOL... I'd say this summer will be a good one for training dogs cause we aren't going to be to busy in the orchard, I'd say a little mowing will be about it. At the very best we might have a super light harvest. By the way, what is new about "Global "Warming" ?? Didn't it start about the end of the "Ice Age"

Post by **ezzy333** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:46 pm

Have you lost most of the fruit for this year for sure? I was hoping in this area we were still ok for most of it. Really sorry to hear its that bad.

Ezzy

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:50 am

What global warming? We are having our coldest Easter on record, with temps below 20 F this morning.

We are going to the R9, which is on the other side of the country, so won't see you now until next fall Jerr. Good luck. Tear em up.

DGFavor · Post by **DGFavor** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:33 pm

We are going to the R9

You gonna head out this way too John? I know Eldon is coming this way (thought I'd take advantage of him passing through and put him to work judging our Reg. 9 Am. SD! He'll be good.)

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:15 pm

yes i am planning on being there for the All Age and the Open Shooting Dog but not for the Am. You should put him to work.

Post by **Greg Jennings** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:51 am

Wagonmaster wrote:What global warming? We are having our coldest Easter on record, with temps below 20 F this morning.

Coldest Easter, but the hotest overall Winter on record.

There isn't much argument in the scientific community that there is global warming.

The burning question is what to do about it.

Best regards, Greg J.

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:40 am

Coldest Easter, but the hotest overall Winter on record.

There isn't much argument in the scientific community that there is global warming.

It is 18 here this morning. We have everything for a nice Christmas except sleigh bells.

Post by **ezzy333** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:59 am

Think we all can see it has warmed over the past decade but there is considerable debate as to why and why we should be concerned when it has happened before when there was little man made green house gases. Not political correct though so you don't hear much about it in the press. Maybe the quail will move north.

Ezzy

Post by **ezzy333** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:03 am

Oh forgot, it wasn't the warmest around here and north by a long shot. Started that way but changed considerably. Think they did say one of the warmest December's.

Ezzy

Buckeye_V · Post by **Buckeye_V** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:01 pm

Greg:

"There isn't much argument in the scientific community that there is global warming. "

Not true. There are voices from many different research institutions which dispute this OPINION. They have just as much research to back up their opinions as well.

The fact is that there has been such a small change in avergae temperature in the past 1000 years that it is hard to get all excited about it (at least from where I sit).

I can dig up the references, if you like.

Justin

Post by **Greg Jennings** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:43 pm

Here is what NOAA has to say on the subject:

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html

With regards to the way science this complicated works: everything is a theory. None of them are "proven" the way a mathematical theorem is proven. There are just lots and lots of observations that, over time, come to compel a majority of the community to accept the theory as the best working theory and that theory gets tweaked over time.

An example: there is a scientific theory that the US sent men to the moon. There are scientists that argue that the US, in fact, faked it in order to win the Cold War. What do you believe and why?

Another example: when you took science in high school and perhaps even in college, the teacher told you that objects in a vacuum fall at the same rate regardless of their weight. You know, the whole Leaning Tower of Pizza experiment. Would you be surprised to know that that "fact" is not the whole truth? That there are several theories that better explain mass and that thing that we call "gravity"?

Me? I worked on LANDSAT in college. I saw enough raw data then to convince me and nothing to change my mind since.

Regards,

Post by **ezzy333** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:09 pm

Greg, You need to refind your arguement. Yes there has been global warming. It has happened many times in history. If it hadn't we would still be in the ice age. But the arguement is what causes it and as of know the people talking about it are blaming man and there is little data to indicate that is true. But it is a political position as we have thousands of people relying on the jobs it is providing. The UN has thousands just within their organization.

If you go back and look at the facts you will find that high levels of greenhouse gases are a result of global warming through out history and not the cause. Don't have a clue though what effect it will have on our field trials or shows except you will have some group want to do away with them because we are wasting fuel and adding to pollution.

Ezzy

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:33 pm

Unfortunately, whether the weather is just the weather or something else, is about as political these days as Hillary running for President. Very hard to sort the truth out from the rest of it.

I wish there were a solid truth to stand on. But there is only politically shifting ground.

I can tell you that in Seward AK there is a terrific outfit that does tours of the glaciers, hosted by PhD wildlife biologists. Very well educated, experts and experienced in the ecology of the area. They will tell you from personal experience that the major glaciers along the coast are receding very rapidly, that they have seen the shrinkage themselves. Unfortunately, being young 30 something PhD's, their personal experience does not reach back 10,000 years or they would be able to tell you how fast they receded from Minnesota and Wisconsin and whether the continued shrinkage is any faster or slower than it was in 8000 BC.

Did you know that in the Roman era it was warm enough to grow wine grapes in Great Britain?

We had our coldest Easter Sunday in history this year.

Buckeye_V · Post by **Buckeye_V** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:43 pm

Very True John

lvrgsp · Post by **lvrgsp** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:54 am

Well how did the can-am go?

Chip