I have been reading posts from 2004. With my limited knowledge it seems that posts concerning e-collar use were more critical or at least skeptical than in 2014. Is that because.....???
Are there still absolute " never do this" concepts when using an e-collar?
e- collar use in 2004 vs 2014 are there still " never do's
Re: e- collar use in 2004 vs 2014 are there still " never do's
PLease don't read my post since 2008. I've learned a lot since then. 
Still stands:
Don't correct your dog if you can't see him. He may be point , hurt or..............
The e collar is not the solution for every problem.
The dog should acknowledge by a turn of the head or flip of the ear that he is feeling the collar correction. Crying out is not acceptable, unless trashing breaking and even then I hesitate.
Never use the collar until you are positive the dog knows the command well in a variety of locations.
I'd be interested to know , what differences you noticed. Not every post has correct info about the use of a collar.

Still stands:
Don't correct your dog if you can't see him. He may be point , hurt or..............
The e collar is not the solution for every problem.
The dog should acknowledge by a turn of the head or flip of the ear that he is feeling the collar correction. Crying out is not acceptable, unless trashing breaking and even then I hesitate.
Never use the collar until you are positive the dog knows the command well in a variety of locations.
I'd be interested to know , what differences you noticed. Not every post has correct info about the use of a collar.
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Re: e- collar use in 2004 vs 2014 are there still " never do's
What was true of the ecollar program in 1970 is still true today. The program has never changed though surely the instrument has.
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Re: e- collar use in 2004 vs 2014 are there still " never do's
Regardless of the equipment or tools used in dog training the never do list goes back 100's of years. The e-collar is not a magical instrument, in the right hands can work wonders in clarifying the message to the dog, in the wrong is can have ruinous effects and consequences!
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Re: e- collar use in 2004 vs 2014 are there still " never do's
There never were "never do's" , so much as there were and are things better with a certain dog, or worse. Train the dog you're training and leave the stereotyping to lesser trainers.dottie wrote:I have been reading posts from 2004. With my limited knowledge it seems that posts concerning e-collar use were more critical or at least skeptical than in 2014. Is that because.....???
Are there still absolute " never do this" concepts when using an e-collar?
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There is little reason to expect a dog to be more precise than you are.-- Rex Carr
The Smartwork System for Retriever Training (link)
Official Evan Graham Retriever Training Forum