Obedience-my latest issue

Breton13 · Post by **Breton13** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:24 am

So here's my new problem. Penny won't shut up! She's fine in her kennel if she can see us, or if she can't see us or hear us. However, if she can't come with us (example basement), or if she can hear us get up at night, or if she's outside without us, she howls and whimpers and pulls and digs.
If we leave the house, she's fine in the kennel (I listen outside the window), but if she knows we're around, there she goes. Digging at the kennel, and schewing at the gate.
i've tried training hush, but think I need new methods. I don't let her in or out until she's quiet (to my neighbor's despair, I'm sure).
It seems she has to be where we are, if she know's we're around. At 6am I like to put her outside while I get the kids up, but meanwhile the whole neighborhood is being whimpered awake.
Is it separation anxiety? She's fine all night while we're sleeping, or if we're away (according to our duplex-mate). I'm at a loss here! Help!!!

Post by **kninebirddog** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:51 am

Spray bottle of water with about a tablespoon of lemon juice put on stream
howl gets a blast in the face
set up kennel where you can hide..this will not harm the pup when you spray the pup just do it one time at each whine do not say anything either no eye contact nothing and only when she is quiet and settled down then approach her where she can hear and see you..if she starts to howl and whine repeat

I ahd to put lemon juice with a few of my pups they thought the regular water was fun..the lemon juice they didn't like

gr_elliott · Post by **gr_elliott** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:56 am

wow, did you steal my dog when i left this morning? that sounds like my problem. I just chaulked it up to separation anxiety since these dogs seem to be real people lovers. At night my dog will sleep like a baby, but if I put him in his crate when the sun is still up or he can hear us in the other room he does not like it one bit.

My worse problem seems to mimic yours, the outside time. I put him outside during the day when no one is home, and if he sees you walk by the back door he will stand there and jump on the door over and over. I never go out there while he is doing this hopinig that the prombel would go away if he did not get attention from it. At night time, if he is outside we keep all the lights off so that he cant see us, otherwise you cant hear anything except whinning, barking and paws digging at the back door.

Dont mean to hijack, but I am much interisted in what people have to say about this....

GsPJustin · Post by **GsPJustin** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:57 pm

Ive never heard of one bark outside, even when your there. Did I read that right?

I think that a bark collar is the best method, because its always percise in the correction. However I dont know how good it will work on a whine. With a squirt bottle I dont know if you will be able to get her everytime.

If your worried about the noise... How old is she. If she is young I would try and accomidate her so shes with you more, like when you go to the basement. Put her on a lead if its dangerous. Then when she gets older and a little more dependent it will probly go away. Like my guy. Im pretty sure this is something that goes away with age. A secretary at my vet had this problem with her 9 month old Chessapeak.

Breton13 · Post by **Breton13** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:09 pm

She whines outside when we're not there with her. She's in the house in her kennel when we're gone, and she's fine. Seems she only whines when she thinks we can hear her, or if she's outside by herself. Very much a social dog.

Squirt bottle inside might work, but she can see me coming from all angles... Outside, it'll only work before the ND winter hits.
Thought about the bark collar, but want to view all my options.

She's a 5 month old Brit. I know she's young, but the problem is getting worse, not better.

Reason I don't take her to the basement, is she wants to eat catfood, and litter, while I carry the laundry.... And she's in a chewing fase, not good on computer components. She comes whith me when I can watch her.

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:01 pm

Sounds like you need to get her a play mate

trhoades wrote:A Brittany? Never thought of owning one of them . Three or four maybe , but never just one

a good understanding of the stake out chain/chain gang would likley help her under stand that she cannot have her way and will learn to deal with restriction. If you are interested in learning more about this PM Knine and ask her to explain it. She is better at explaining better than me.

FWIW

Breton13 · Post by **Breton13** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:21 am

Well, I have Rick and Ronnie Smith's Puppy Developement DVD. Problem is I live on an Air Force Base, and after a couple of hours of whimpering, the cops would surely be at my door

(Man, I need my own land....)
I do let her quiet down before I let her in though. Ususally takes a couple of 10 min. sessions, before she gives in. Should I just keep at it that way?

Post by **ezzy333** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:58 am

I think you are handling it just right. It will take time but stay the course.

Ezzy

Post by **Ayres** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:41 pm

As with any form of discipline, consistency is key.

And keep in mind that if you reward a bad behavior with attention, even negative attention, the dog will continue to act out.