Wing Training - My Pups first day seeing a wing

[EPointer=Birdss]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_GvZpN6 ... re=g-all-c

[Sharon]

Nice looking pup. Enjoy.

[gonehuntin']

Keep in mind that you are "teaching" your pup nothing. You are playing with it. The wing is strictly for your entertainment. The dog is strictly sight pointing and not learning to use it's nose and stop on scent. A little wing goes a long way.

[birddogger]

Keep in mind that you are "teaching" your pup nothing. You are playing with it. The wing is strictly for your entertainment. The dog is strictly sight pointing and not learning to use it's nose and stop on scent. A little wing goes a long way.

Exactly.

Charlie

[EPointer=Birdss]

Keep in mind that you are "teaching" your pup nothing. You are playing with it. The wing is strictly for your entertainment. The dog is strictly sight pointing and not learning to use it's nose and stop on scent. A little wing goes a long way.

I know very well how to train a pointer & I train on wild birds. I don't use quail, launchers or any of that.
The wing is a game for the pup to encourage her to point & encourage a few concepts that will be developed /re-inforced later in training. Training doesn't start anytime soon but she is learning & it is not for my amusement. At 9 weeks of being on the planet I don't care if it is sight or not for now & I will build this up in stages as I have done with every pointer before her

[birddog1968]

Keep in mind that you are "teaching" your pup nothing. You are playing with it. The wing is strictly for your entertainment. The dog is strictly sight pointing and not learning to use it's nose and stop on scent. A little wing goes a long way.

I don't exactly agree with that, the wing used in different ways progressing to pigeons however presented go a long way to engrain in a young dogs mind that master=birds=fun......I find a dog that has been exposed to the wing then the pigeons weather on a pole or flown learns go with you at a young age, unless they got a screw loose, in a dogs mind, the thought of its master should go directly to the thought of good things, birds and feathers. They rarely leave you if they make these connections.

Mr. Miller thought alot of the wing and pigeon pole, and for good reason IMHO, not that its the only way to teach a dog......

[birddogger]

A little wing goes a long way

I think most of us have probably used the wing to see the pointing instinct of a very young puppy, but I think this is an accurate statement.

Charlie

[birddogger]

There was no offense intended EPointer. I enjoyed the video....Enjoy your pup.

Charlie

[NC Quailhunter]

The wing is something that brings out a bunch of mixed emotions on this board. I have used the wing on a string for every dog I have trained and I use it as part of a systematic approach to training. IT is not a game I play with older pup but when they are young like this one I use it and try to get the juices flowing. That pup looks like he is very interested and I wish yo the best of luck with it.

[rick,b]

love the video m8 .real nice looking pup.i miss the puppy years

[volraider]

I didn't have a wing so I tied a sock to my fishing pole and my pup pointed the sock. What does that mean?

[ezzy333]

I didn't have a wing so I tied a sock to my fishing pole and my pup pointed the sock. What does that mean?

I use a plastic grocery bag. An empty one that is. Some pups like it others don't but never saw that it make a bit of difference when they went to the field. It sure is cute though when you see a 3 to 4 week old pup point it and tip over when they try to raise the front leg. Impresses the people who come to look at the litter.
I have never seen that it does any harm but sure can't say it does any good either.

Ezzy

[birddog1968]

ya'll are thinking of only one use for feathers....

Ever see the video of FM taking 15 pups from the pen , letting them bounce around in full enjoyment of feathers and returning them to the pen with no real words used.....what you think those dogs were thinking as he rounded the corner out of sight, and when he returned? Exactly what i hope my dogs think at that age when i go in or out of sight. If you cant see value in that..... well to each their own I guess.

[mountaindogs]

Very nice puppy. Love the classic head.
welcome aboard, by the way! These message boards are full of opinions. I try absorb info but some goes into the good idea file and some into the "not likely" file. I have on occaision revisited and tried stuff that I never thought I'd use or need, but mostly I'd stick with what is working already.
mostly have fun and share! MOST people mean well and are just trying to help. You'll be able to tell the "rable rousers " after not too long.
There are in fact a few programs that use a lot of sight work, starting with wings, then pigeons, then moving to scent and launchers.
Keep posting progress. I love watching the dogs progress into birddogs!

[M1Tanker]

Welcome...a lot of thoughts on the wing but what is important is what matters to you. It is your dog and whatever makes you happy is what you should do.

Check out the Smith video on puppy development and I bet you see a segment on using a rag on a pole...same principle.

[EPointer=Birdss]

Cheers lads.
I have principles with pups that I like to follow & the wing is one I introduce young. I have had pups who wouldn't point a wing also that turned out well & some were so so.

She is showing great signs so far & has the bold streak I like In pups.

Here's my current pointer dog of not yet 4 years old. He is a pure roughshooting HPR. I don't train steady to shot or wing due to type of country I hunt. Ultimate bird finding & retrieving are my requirements & i've turned down a lot of money for him - I don't compete or anything - just fill my freezer.
I have lost count of the amount of birds shot with him & i've yet to lose one shot bird.

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