Weim house training problem?

cusedell · Post by **cusedell** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:32 pm

Gentlemen I have a situation with my 13 week old weim pup. He has been up until about 2 weeks ago a normal pup with house breaking and going outside for #1 and #2 with the occasional accident in the house. Prior to two weeks ago he would come and "get" me to go out and would go outside to do his business. Recently he has been urinating in the house and after 2 weeks of saying no and immediately taking him outside I'm asking for suggestions for any help or ideas to fix this problem. He was just to the vet 3 days ago and checked out and he is a healthy pup with no problems related to incontinence per my vet. He is getting more and more stubborn with training and I am sure this is just a way of him trying to demonstrate his dominance. Any ideas???

Jason

Post by **ezzy333** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:39 pm

I doubt the dominance thing in a little pup. I do think he has for some reason not understanding he is suppose to go outside. I am a firm believer in crate training and keeping them there if you are not actively involved with the pup till it is completely broke. In other words, puppy is taken out of crate and taken outside to go. Bring it back in and play with it and when you are through or the pup is tired he goes back in the crate. and then you start over. I think that is best chance of breaking the cycle you are now in.

Ezzy

hubweims · Post by **hubweims** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:40 pm

cusedell,

crate train. however you see fit to use the crate, use it to help. now, with all do respect, if a pup that young is having to come get you to go outside, you are not taking the pup out enough. you really need to take him out more often. introduce a pottie command as well. when you take him, don't play with him until he potties. when you see him to start to go potty, give the potty command and praise. i can't stress enough about the importance of taking the pup out more often. btw, are sure you were reading your pups signals correctly? chances are with such a young pup he was wanting to go out for sake of going out possibly to play and not just to potty. also, remember dog training is like raising kids, they will take two steps forward and then one step back.

Teewinot · Post by **Teewinot** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:28 pm

ezzy -- I have to ask you this...you say crate her either when I'm done or the pup is tired. With my pup she's fine most of the time in the crate if the situation is that she was tired, but if the situation is that I need to crate her since I need to take care of something else for a minute she goes crazy whining and barking until I come and get her.

She'll carry this on for a long time. When I come to get her I try to stand there and wait until she stops making noise and then I walk towards her. If she starts making noise at all I stop and wait until she's quite. This doesn't seem to be making a big difference though and as soon as I leave her in there again she then goes crazy. I've tried a blanket over the crate as well as a squirt bottle. I don't really care for the squirt bottle method though, maybe I'm not doing it right.

Any ideas?

Post by **ezzy333** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:32 pm

It may take some ear plugs but you have to ignore her when she fusses. She will learn rather quickly that fussing has no effect or response from you so why do it. Just be consistant for a few days and you will be home free.

Ezzy

h20fwlkillr · Post by **h20fwlkillr** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:42 am

13 weeks is pretty young for a weim to be house broke. Their bladders grow much slower than their thirst and bodies. By 15-16 weeks you should see a vast improvement.

stuartjeff · Post by **stuartjeff** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:44 am

I was totally worried about my dog crying when I put him in his crate at that age but it ended up just being a stage. Granted it was a stage that lasted several weeks but after about a month of going in the crate on a daily basis he started loving it. Now I give the command and he runs right in and rarely makes a sound. Even when he does whimper it is just for a second and then he goes right back to gnawing on toys or sleeping. It's hard to sit there and listen to him cry but it will all be over soon - just stick with it and don't let him out when he is crying. Oh and I'm a believer in not putting him in the crate for punishment either. The crate should be a happy place.

House training is something that takes a lot of time as well. My GSP (he's 19 weeks now) hasn't had an accident in several weeks but I'm not sure I'm out of the woods yet. At 13 weeks he would pee spontaneously while playing and look at me like he didn't even know what was happening. They just don't seem to have much bladder control at that age. Don't be hard on him just be consistent. If he starts peeing don't get mad just tell him no firmly and pick him up and take him outside. When he starts peeing outside give him loads of praise. He's probably not trying to make any sort of statement with his peeing - he just doesn't know how to control his bladder/doesn't completely understand you want him to do that outside. It will all come in time.

cusedell · Post by **cusedell** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:56 pm

Thanks for the advice everyone. Overall I'm very impressed with my pup how much bladder control he has and I think I have been spoiled at how well he is doing but the analogy to a child "two steps forward one step back" is very appropriate. What is the general census as to time frame that a Weim pup should be fully potty trained? Is there a certain age if it continues I should start to worry?

hubweims · Post by **hubweims** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:10 pm

nah, i wouldn't get worried anytime soon. some pups will have accidents sometimes up to the age of 6 months. also, is this your only dog? if so, the first/only dog is the hardest. in a couple of years or so if you choose to add another dog it will be much easier b/c the new pup will learn to go out from the older dog. i wouldn't be worried. just be consistent and don't give up. give plenty of praise when he does his business outside.

h20fwlkillr · Post by **h20fwlkillr** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:06 pm

cusedell wrote:Thanks for the advice everyone. Overall I'm very impressed with my pup how much bladder control he has and I think I have been spoiled at how well he is doing but the analogy to a child "two steps forward one step back" is very appropriate. What is the general census as to time frame that a Weim pup should be fully potty trained? Is there a certain age if it continues I should start to worry?

Every pup is different. I would think by 4 months your pup should be house broke, or very close. I've had weims that were broke by 12 weeks and had no accidents and I've had one that took 8 months to stop peeing on the floor. She did have problems with multiple UTI's though.