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Variable intensity when running drills?

Post by mtlee » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:39 pm

For the last few weeks I've been teaching my 2 y/o GSP blind retrieves. I've been running lining and casting drills daily. One thing I have noticed is how her intensity changes rapidly during the drills. For instance; 99% of the time on the way TO the dummy piles she will burn rubber...but on the way BACK she takes her sweet time, sometimes even stopping to pee (which really burns me up b/c I know she doesn't have to go that bad)...her taking her sweet time happens about 50% of the time on the way back to me.

Now, if this is how she retrieved all the time I'd think it was normal...this is not the case. I also don't believe its because she's tired...This is why, once we're done I'll throw her a couple of "fun" marks and she is all but foaming at the mouth to go get them..muscles tight, she's leaning forward staring at me waiting for me to release her, she'll pick up the dummy and run so fast back to me she can hardly stop and heel beside me.

I've tried saying "come" multiple times, nicking her when she stops and pees, telling her "good girl, come"---sometimes it makes her pick up her pace, sometimes it doesn't.

Should I worry about this? What could I do to fix it? She is CC.

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Re: Variable intensity when running drills?

Post by gonehuntin' » Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:20 pm

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but on the way BACK she takes her sweet time, sometimes even stopping to pee (which really burns me up b/c I know she doesn't have to go that bad)...her taking her sweet time happens about 50% of the time on the way back to me.
You have to pick and choose the battles that are most important to you. I, personally, wouldn't put up with it. She's beginning to train you.


I've tried saying "come" multiple times, nicking her when she stops and pees, telling her "good girl, come"---sometimes it makes her pick up her pace, sometimes it doesn't.

Should I worry about this? What could I do to fix it? She is CC
What intensity are you running the collar on? Whatever it is, go one higher. Watch her intently. When she begins to slow down, say "NO,HERE" and hold the button down until she complies. Same thing whenever she slows down or deviates in her return course. Don't good dog her and coax her in; command her, it's her job. Should cure it in short order. Whenever she completes a retrieve in the manor you desire, then praise the daylights out of her.
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Re: Variable intensity when running drills?

Post by mtlee » Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:28 pm

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mtlee wrote:
What intensity are you running the collar on? Whatever it is, go one higher. Watch her intently. When she begins to slow down, say "NO,HERE" and hold the button down until she complies. Same thing whenever she slows down or deviates in her return course. Don't good dog her and coax her in; command her, it's her job. Should cure it in short order. Whenever she completes a retrieve in the manor you desire, then praise the daylights out of her.
I have a TT 60 G2..i generally use level 2...I've noticed that she is a little reluctant to come at other times as well..not that she refuses the command she just has to finish sniffing whatever she was sniffing and then take her time getting to me. When I shock her on continuous and say "come" she will start my way but not really any faster, she just kind of puts her ears back and her neck turns to one side from the stimulation. You think she just doesn't understand that the shock will go away if she hurries it up a bit since I have let her get away with it and been inconsistent recently?? This behavior generally happens during training sessions.

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Post by gonehuntin' » Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:34 pm

Go to three or maybe four. Hold the button down until she complies, don't just nick her. It won't hurt to help her out at first. As you hold the button down bend down a little and coax her to you. Make sure she know the safe place is at your side and anything less is uncomfortable. do NOT go high enough that she yips. It really sounds when you say "she turns her hear" that the intensity is high enough though. Are you hitting her the instant she slows down or deviates? Are you holding the button down or just repeatidly nicking her? She really sounds like a nice dog to me.
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Post by mtlee » Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:37 pm

gonehuntin' wrote:Go to three or maybe four. Hold the button down until she complies, don't just nick her. It won't hurt to help her out at first. As you hold the button down bend down a little and coax her to you. Make sure she know the safe place is at your side and anything less is uncomfortable. do NOT go high enough that she yips. It really sounds when you say "she turns her hear" that the intensity is high enough though. Are you hitting her the instant she slows down or deviates? Are you holding the button down or just repeatidly nicking her? She really sounds like a nice dog to me.
thanks, i'll give it a shot!

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