How to get my pup to come when called in the field?
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How to get my pup to come when called in the field?
I have a 7 month old English Setter pup and right now i don't have a lot of time between getting home and dark, so i want to work most on general/field obedience.He will go to a trainer too. He knows come and whoa pretty good, just when he is in a field or woods, he gets so distracted he doesn't always listen. What i do when i can, is i go in th woods with him on the check cord and keep a loose grip or let it drag and when i say come i grab and enforce the command then say ok or lets go or go and let him go again so i think that is making a little bit of progress on it. I just wanted to know what any of you do for obedience? ANy advice is helpful
Thanks
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Re: How to get my pup to come when called in the field?
At 7 months , in your situation as posted in other threads, I would transition to the e collar.
See the section here on intro to the e collar
http://montanabreton.com/july%202013.pdf
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"I just wanted to know what any of you do for obedience?" quote NWH
Best tip I can give ( for your next dog:) ) is to start out the day you get the pup. I never call the dog to come unless I'm prepared to get my butt off the couch , go out in the snow in my slippers etc..... and enforce the command. After 6- ? weeks that pup is coming every time and I now have a 10 year old who still comes every time.
See the section here on intro to the e collar
http://montanabreton.com/july%202013.pdf
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"I just wanted to know what any of you do for obedience?" quote NWH
Best tip I can give ( for your next dog:) ) is to start out the day you get the pup. I never call the dog to come unless I'm prepared to get my butt off the couch , go out in the snow in my slippers etc..... and enforce the command. After 6- ? weeks that pup is coming every time and I now have a 10 year old who still comes every time.
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Re: How to get my pup to come when called in the field?
Sharon, thanks for all your help in all of my threads, and i usually enforce the commands as best as i could, and now i am getting used to it a lot more, and i just think that it's just now starting to click to the pup because i took a lot of advice from this site and trainers, and have been using it , i just wanted to know what others do and if I think it would work good, if i will do that instead.
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Glad the forum has been helpful. Don't be worried about an e collar. It's a tool , just like a CC. In many ways it would be kinder than a CC choking on the dog every time he gets caught in a bush.
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By track do you mean beep or gps? If you mean gps like the Garmin Alpha I would say just train, and get a separate tracking system. If you have a gps and ecollar combo and it goes down, you lose both the ecollar and gps. Too many eggs in one basketnorthwoodshunter wrote:Do you think a e collar should be track and train or just a normal long range e collar?
Re: How to get my pup to come when called in the field?
Not sure what "track and train " means. GPS units are not allowed in Ontario where I live. I've found the Dogtra 2500 B/T has been all I need. E collar is simple to use and the beeper tells me where the dog is for quite a distance depending on the terrain.
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I condition them to the Acme 210 1/2northwoodshunter wrote:I have a 7 month old English Setter pup and right now i don't have a lot of time between getting home and dark, so i want to work most on general/field obedience.He will go to a trainer too. He knows come and whoa pretty good, just when he is in a field or woods, he gets so distracted he doesn't always listen. What i do when i can, is i go in th woods with him on the check cord and keep a loose grip or let it drag and when i say come i grab and enforce the command then say ok or lets go or go and let him go again so i think that is making a little bit of progress on it. I just wanted to know what any of you do for obedience? ANy advice is helpful
Thanks
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Garmin Alpha = $799.00, Acme 210.5 = $7.99polmaise wrote:I condition them to the Acme 210 1/2northwoodshunter wrote:I have a 7 month old English Setter pup and right now i don't have a lot of time between getting home and dark, so i want to work most on general/field obedience.He will go to a trainer too. He knows come and whoa pretty good, just when he is in a field or woods, he gets so distracted he doesn't always listen. What i do when i can, is i go in th woods with him on the check cord and keep a loose grip or let it drag and when i say come i grab and enforce the command then say ok or lets go or go and let him go again so i think that is making a little bit of progress on it. I just wanted to know what any of you do for obedience? ANy advice is helpful
Thanks
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Re: How to get my pup to come when called in the field?
+1 Acme 212 also a good alternative. http://www.acmewhistles.co.uk/xcart/home.php?cat=3MJB64 wrote:Garmin Alpha = $799.00, Acme 210.5 = $7.99polmaise wrote:I condition them to the Acme 210 1/2northwoodshunter wrote:I have a 7 month old English Setter pup and right now i don't have a lot of time between getting home and dark, so i want to work most on general/field obedience.He will go to a trainer too. He knows come and whoa pretty good, just when he is in a field or woods, he gets so distracted he doesn't always listen. What i do when i can, is i go in th woods with him on the check cord and keep a loose grip or let it drag and when i say come i grab and enforce the command then say ok or lets go or go and let him go again so i think that is making a little bit of progress on it. I just wanted to know what any of you do for obedience? ANy advice is helpful
Thanks
Mike
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Re: How to get my pup to come when called in the field?
Whistle would be a good start. Now tell the member how to condition to a whistle recall. He's waiting.
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Re: How to get my pup to come when called in the field?
Conditioning is done over a period of time with a constant and always a reward for the dog .Sharon wrote:Whistle would be a good start. No tell the member how to condition to a whistle recall. He's waiting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVYNWnubYOE
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Thanks! Beautiful dogs! but tell them they can't poop during the video.
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Re: How to get my pup to come when called in the field?
polmaise wrote:Conditioning is done over a period of time with a constant and always a reward for the dog .Sharon wrote:Whistle would be a good start. No tell the member how to condition to a whistle recall. He's waiting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVYNWnubYOE
+1 Robert very nice 2.5 Minute video save me a lengthy paragraph on what solid recall should look and sound like.
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Re: How to get my pup to come when called in the field?
It's easier 'Sharon' when you get the conditioning done on the first day of human intervention .
After that, most with no dog skills call in the behaviourists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vbZz_iHEug
After that, most with no dog skills call in the behaviourists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vbZz_iHEug
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You just got the programme above .
Robert: Exactly ..........................I thought those pups were never going to stop coming.
Robert: Exactly ..........................I thought those pups were never going to stop coming.
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Re: How to get my pup to come when called in the field?
I thought about it for a little bit, so I am pretty sure that i am buying a Garmin Delta Upland XC and im going to put the point locator mode on to locate when pointing. And in a controlled area like a ballfield, with any entrances blocked off or something similar is where im going to introduce him to the collar. I think im going to have 1 of the tones it makes as a recall command. So i hit the tone if he doesn't listen ill hit it again and give him a low stim correction and go up until he listens. and later as he gets older and more mature I might do that with whoa too. But i will also have him trained on whistle commands at some point, although i may never need it.
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I hope everything works out well for you.
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Re: How to get my pup to come when called in the field?
Make sure you take the time to overlay the verbal and the tone so that he understands that the tone is a command. You can do that in your yard. When he understands, then you can use a stim to enforce an ignored command. Don't just buckle the collar on and tone and zap and expect him to know what you want. That's a sure way to mess him up.
Good luck with your pup.
Good luck with your pup.
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Re: How to get my pup to come when called in the field?
Remember that an ecollar is used ONLY for reinforcing commands, not teaching them. Use the check cord and teach him with the tone just like as if it were you saying "here," and only transition to the ecollar when he knows what you want. The ecollar isn't used as a magic wand that when you press the button the dog listens. It is a process.northwoodshunter wrote:I thought about it for a little bit, so I am pretty sure that i am buying a Garmin Delta Upland XC and im going to put the point locator mode on to locate when pointing. And in a controlled area like a ballfield, with any entrances blocked off or something similar is where im going to introduce him to the collar. I think im going to have 1 of the tones it makes as a recall command. So i hit the tone if he doesn't listen ill hit it again and give him a low stim correction and go up until he listens. and later as he gets older and more mature I might do that with whoa too. But i will also have him trained on whistle commands at some point, although i may never need it.
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X2shags wrote:Make sure you take the time to overlay the verbal and the tone so that he understands that the tone is a command. You can do that in your yard. When he understands, then you can use a stim to enforce an ignored command. Don't just buckle the collar on and tone and zap and expect him to know what you want. That's a sure way to mess him up.
Good luck with your pup.
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Re: How to get my pup to come when called in the field?
call the dogs name when you get the dog to look turn and walk in the other direction the dog will follow later you can call and blow the whis.tyen go to whis. only