Question about Panacur

[gspmo1]

I have read different posts about folks using panacur to worm their dogs. What type are you using and what dosage would need to be given to a 50 pound dog? I saw a 10% panacur horse paste at TSC and thought about picking it up but I wasn't sure if that was the right thing or not.

Thanks

[snips]

I order from Jeffers, about 1/2 price of TSC.

[Cajun Casey]

I use the liquid livestock wormer. .5cc/Kg.

[dog dr]

i know the liquid panacur is 1 ml per 4 lbs. i figured the dose on the paste once, but for the life of me cant remember it. you cant overdose it, though. very safe.

[Onk]

How often do you use it?

[kninebirddog]

PS the other thing is Safeguard is cheaper then panacur and it is the same ingredient

Depending on what you are treating if is is for worms a 3 day regime is good if is is for girardia 5-10 days at dog dr reccommended dosing of the liquid

with the paste for worming we press out about an inch line on the finger for adult dogs

[Onk]

How often do you use it, every month, 3months, 6 months or just as needed? I've always been told you can't worm to often, but have not used safeguard or Panacur. Thanks

[kninebirddog]

I already have them on Ivermectin at 1/10th cc per 10 lbs body weight every month for heart worm anyways which at the dose I give covers the basic wound worms and pin worms and hook worms I use the safe guard when other things show up mostly the bad water issues.

[Coveyrise64]

I already have them on Ivermectin at 1/10th cc per 10 lbs body weight every month for heart worm anyways which at the dose I give covers the basic wound worms and pin worms and hook worms I use the safe guard when other things show up mostly the bad water issues.

I use fenbenzadole twice a year unless I am dealing with a giardi issue. I use a smaller dose of Ivermectin monthly and rely on it only as a heart worm preventative. Every other month I use Pyrantel Pamoate for round and hook worms. I was told by my vet there are more effective medications than Ivermectin for internal parasites so why not use them. Hadn't heard Ivermectin would control pin worms.


Coveyrise64

[kninebirddog]

oops copy and pasted to much ..it is a combination treatment that is used for humans mainly children

[Coveyrise64]

oops copy and pasted to much ..it is a combination treatment that is used for humans mainly children

Whack....! There, that should teach you......

Coveyrise64

[kninebirddog]

oops copy and pasted to much ..it is a combination treatment that is used for humans mainly children

Whack....! There, that should teach you......

Coveyrise64

LOL

[tommyboy72]

I use Safeguard horse wormer paste from TSC and on a 50lb dog I believe it is about 3 notches on the plastic syringe maybe 4 but giving them 4 isn't going to hurt them. All my trial buddies use Safeguard horse paste wormer for their adult dogs and they all tell me you could give your dog that whole tube full of paste wormer and it isn't going to kill them but I would advise against it.

[dan v]

I recall doing the math on the qty of Safeguard horse wormer to give and seem to recall it's like 10:1...so for a 50lb dog you dispense a 500lb horse amount. Check the math...I'm not responsible for my memory.

[Ruffshooter]

Here is what dog doc, wrote up for me on the subject.
Hope you don't mind Doc.
Rick

Re: Worming with Panacur equine.
Sent: 05/21/06
From: dog dr
To: Ruffshooter

the problem we are gonna run into is that you want to dose the dogs by volume (ml or cc's), and so to calculate a dose, we have to know the concentration of the med by volume (mg per ml). we know how many mg of drug we have, but we dont know how many total mls of paste we have.

However, i think we can get close. if your tube is like the tube of panacur i have in front of me, there are 10 notches on the plunger. so each notch on the plunger would be equal to about 250 mg of fenbendazole, or enough to treat 10 lbs of dog (for one day). so a 50 lb dog would need 5 notches (or half a tube) per day for 3 days. fenbendazole is super safe, so dont worry about giving too much. in fact, I always err on the side of too much.

this dose is assuming of course that the drug (fenbendazole) is distributed evenly thru the whole tube. I suppose its possible all the fenbendazole is in the last half or first half or whatever. thats why i like the liquid better. BUT, thats not to say you cant use the paste for your dogs. its still very safe.

clear as mud??

doc
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[shags]

Not to worry about drug distribution throughout a tube or tablet. What if you were dosing a young 500lb horse and only needed to use half the tube, would you worry about which half to give him?
The meds are mixed with carriers in vats then dispensed into the tubes or extruded to make tablets; the tubes or tablets aren't made individually with a squirt of meds topped off with a squirt of filler

[dog dr]

Here is what dog doc, wrote up for me on the subject.
Hope you don't mind Doc.
Rick

Re: Worming with Panacur equine.
Sent: 05/21/06
From: dog dr
To: Ruffshooter

the problem we are gonna run into is that you want to dose the dogs by volume (ml or cc's), and so to calculate a dose, we have to know the concentration of the med by volume (mg per ml). we know how many mg of drug we have, but we dont know how many total mls of paste we have.

However, i think we can get close. if your tube is like the tube of panacur i have in front of me, there are 10 notches on the plunger. so each notch on the plunger would be equal to about 250 mg of fenbendazole, or enough to treat 10 lbs of dog (for one day). so a 50 lb dog would need 5 notches (or half a tube) per day for 3 days. fenbendazole is super safe, so dont worry about giving too much. in fact, I always err on the side of too much.

this dose is assuming of course that the drug (fenbendazole) is distributed evenly thru the whole tube. I suppose its possible all the fenbendazole is in the last half or first half or whatever. thats why i like the liquid better. BUT, thats not to say you cant use the paste for your dogs. its still very safe.

clear as mud??

doc
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Posts: 700
Joined: 05/21/06
Location: Pike County, IL
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glad you posted that rick! i was thnking about it when i originally read this thread, but i had long since deleted that mesage from my outbox.

[Birddog3412]

Crap.....Im not giving enough. I usually use one tube between two 50lb dogs for three days.


Dumb question....Why is horse weight and dog weight different when giving panacur paste?????

[shags]

Different guts?

FWIW, a while back I figured the cost and the Safeguard goat wormer (liquid) is cheaper than horse paste. $1.10 per dose liquid as opposed to $3.40 for paste if you buy the liter bottle.