vet says pull it

dhondtm · Post by **dhondtm** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:56 pm

I've tried to get it to budge, but it is wedged in there. Looks like she may need surgery just to pull her baby tooth.

Post by **Ayres** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:01 pm

Ouch! Is she showing any pain because of that? That baby tooth shoulda been long gone by the time the permanent one came in.

dhondtm · Post by **dhondtm** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:13 pm

no pain but as you can see needs more brushing because of it. the other side did the same but it got loose enough it came out.

Margaret · Post by **Margaret** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:26 pm

Yep. Pull it. Probably be able to do it fast, shove smelly treat under dogs nose immediately after & will forget

(or are mine just piggies?)

Marg

Post by **Greg Jennings** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:20 am

Get it out of there.

Rgrdz,

Post by **ezzy333** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:37 am

I had a family of dogs that would do that years ago. Always had to pull the baby teeth. From my experience it tends to be hereditary.

Ezzy

dhondtm · Post by **dhondtm** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:25 am

our vet won't pull it without spaying the dog, claims it is an alteration even though it's a baby tooth and the dog wouldn't be show quality anymoer. :roll:

Suggested we play tug o war with a rope and try to get t loose.

snips · Post by **snips** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:39 pm

You have to be kidding!!! What is your vet, a show warden? I`d dump the vet and get another one.

Kurzhaar · Post by **Kurzhaar** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:52 pm

As Ezzy mentioned, the retention of deciduous teeth may have a genetic link, but there is a huge difference between remaining deciduous teeth and having extra adult teeth. If the vet pulls the tooth and there is a root, then you should neuter. If there is no root, then there should be no problems with "breedability".

What has your breeder had to say about this?

Jim

Post by **ezzy333** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:50 pm

Your vet needs to rethink what he is saying. Thats about like clipping toenails or docking the tail. This is nothing more than correcting a health problem since it is a baby tooth. Find another vet that will remove it so the adult teeth can get in the position they should be in.

Ezzy

Margaret · Post by **Margaret** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:25 pm

Oh Crikey !!

Your vet is loopy. Go to another. It is easy to see from photo
it's a baby tooth.

Get it pulled out because leaving it may (note: may) displace another tooth. YOu could also try a big leg bone for the dog to gnaw on, that could loosen it to fall out, as they gnaw with the side of the teeth, not particularly good description but I'm sure you know what I mean.

Marg

Post by **pear** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:19 pm

Oh my is your vet a real vet or a wannabe god? Find a vet that wil extract the tooth and be done with it....I think ezzy said it best in his last post.............."pear"

Post by **Ayres** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:26 pm

ezzy333 wrote:Your vet needs to rethink what he is saying. Thats about like clipping toenails or docking the tail. This is nothing more than correcting a health problem since it is a baby tooth. Find another vet that will remove it so the adult teeth can get in the position they should be in.

Ezzy

I agree wholeheartedly. Also with what Brenda said.

Post by **Ayres** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:27 pm

And especially since you won 2 points towards her championship with that tooth just the way it is!

Post by **Greg Jennings** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:25 pm

Pulling a baby tooth an "alteration". Sheesh. Pull the tooth. Flush the vet. Show the dog.

Rgrdz,

dhondtm · Post by **dhondtm** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:39 pm

I talked to the breeder and she gave me her vets number which apparently just did the same procedure on both sides with one of Teka's littermates. So we are scheduling an appointment. In the mean time I will take your suggestion and give her some real bones to gnaw at.

By the way same vet from this situation.... I should of listened to my own advice back then.
http://www.gundogforum.com/forum/viewto ... c&start=15

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:43 pm

It looks seriosue u should just give her to me so u dont have to see her suffer

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:44 pm

I think your vet has only inclined that you spay her while she is already under anestesia(sp?) as it would be easier on her rather than to go under only months later. My vet asked me the same thing (if he could neuter) when my pup was under for an umbilical hurnia. I told him no. He explained why he asked and added that most all vets ask to try and prevent any unwanted puppies, ie: the whole spay/neuter you dog and cat campaign.

What I dont get is why he is going to use anestesia to pull a tooth. No dentist I have ever heared of has pulled teeth that way unless the tooth wasnt exposed enough to get ahold of. Unless the adult tooth has put enough pressure on the baby tooth that it wont come right out.

Kurzhaar · Post by **Kurzhaar** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:17 am

I spoke with two vets about this issue, both of them stated that it was indeed an issue, since the adult tooth should have erupted immediately under the baby tooth and pushed it out. However, both stated that the entire litter should be examined and any breeding decisions should take this into consideration.

Some of these genetic issues are extrememly difficult to eradicate once they are set into a line of dogs. I'd pull the tooth and weigh any breeding decision carefully.

Jim

portsider44 · Post by **portsider44** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:57 am

dhondtm wrote:I talked to the breeder and she gave me her vets number which apparently just did the same procedure on both sides with one of Teka's littermates.

Did your breeder say if she has seen this before on other liters of hers? You might just blow off having 1 pup, but having 2 from the same liter??

Also I agree dump the Vet & find another.

Post by **ezzy333** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:07 pm

Sounds like a genetic problem, which is exactly what I was afraid of. It won't hurt your pup in any way once you have it pulled but she is carrying the trait now and would probably pass it along if you ever breed her.

I think your breeder should make some amends esecially if you have a health guarantee. This would be very simuliar to having bad hips but no where as serious. But a show quality dog that throws defective pups is a problem.

Ezzy

dhondtm · Post by **dhondtm** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:31 pm

new vet, pulled this morning

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:26 pm

Well how did it go?

What did the new vet say?

What was the new diagnosis?

dhondtm · Post by **dhondtm** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:40 pm

Baby tooth, said it happens more often then people realize, not a big deal. Cost me about $135 not to mention the $30 visit to the last vet who said no problem make an appointment then later said one condition we have to spay her too. Oh and the new vet said I can train this Sunday she will be fine. She slept a lot today, but she seems great. Minor procedure....

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