Stopped eating,

[walkos5]

You honestly believe that the reaction you're getting is solely because you feed raw?

"Oh forgive me," you and your gang have been nothing but polite and understanding. If I Had a dollar for every sarcastic comment made by you and your friends from my first post on, I'd be on vacation right now.

[Vonzeppelinkennels]

Looks like the best way to end all the BS is to totally ignore anything,questions or comments made by walkos.

[ezzy333]

Why is it that anyone who supports a raw diet is labeled as pushing some sort of agenda with you guys. Well why are you pushing your agenda to oppose everyone who supports feeding a raw diet. I have no agenda, I am simply giving advice based on my own experience and that of others that do it, along with lots of research that is available to anyone who cares to challenge the benefits of feeding raw, and there are vets along with people who have many years of experience raising dogs that support it. I said this is my first hunting dog, but I have had 2 other dogs and both those dogs ate bag dog food and had their fair share of health problems. Yes some of those who oppose my stance have some experience raising dogs and some who support my stance also have years of experience raising dogs. So what's your point? All you have left is your scientific proof and we already established that nature already has all the goods. Could it be your just bias and believe only dog food companies can provide the best nutrition for a dog?

I can't speak for others but the comments you are receiving is not about what you feed. There are few others on this board and have been for quite awhile that do or have in the past and they are not receiving the comments you are. There is quite a difference in reporting your agenda or opinion than telling those that don't agree with you that they are wrong stupid or whatever. I don't know of a single member who has said feeding raw is bad. But you never stop there. You have to make comments like

I'd like to feed my dog kibble but I need a dog that hunts past lunch time.

Just as a point of interest is the raw or kibble diet is just as natural as the other one. The main difference is the kibble is ground into a meal that can be mixed uniformally while the raw diet takes a whole lot of equipment that you don't have to do the same thing.

I do think you have posted enough to convince most everyone that your knowledge is lacking and your attitude makes it impossible for you change that. That in itself is why I and all of my cronies have taken part in these conversations, it has become apparent that you feel you already know all there is to know on the subject and your post now are just a form of trolling trying to start an argument and it would be my suggestion that it stops.

Ezzy

[walkos5]

I'd like to feed my dog kibble but I need a dog that hunts past lunch time.

BWahahaha talk about outting yourself.....

I live in Pa, want to put your money where your mouth is? You can start by posting a picture of your dog(s).....

I've already admitted I'm no expert trainer. I didn't get my dog to enter it in field trials or any competitions. I wanted a dog that could double as a family pet and hunting dog. And he is doing a great job as far as I'm concerned. Now if you want to challenge his speed and endurance then yes bring any of your dogs that match his size and I'll be glad to do business. He is a 49 lb. male Brittany. Just make sure you bring some good walking shoes, because we put on the miles on during his runs. I'll make it a point to get that picture up.

[Point2Point]

Kibble feeder here. I could care less what you feed. My dogs have enjoyed long healthy lives and can hunt hard all day. My last dog lived to 16.5 and pointed birds in south Dakota at age 15.5. So if my dogs live and hunt past life expectancy, and have no vet visits other than shots, whats the advantage.
Would raw make them live longer? If so, how much longer? Would raw obviate the need for shots? Because that's the only reason they visit the vet. I know it can't make them hunt harder, because they hunt hard all day, everyday, for 7 days in a row in south Dakota.
So again, what's the advantage?
Let's assume it's more 'natural' for the sake of argument. If it doesnt make them live longer, hunt harder, or reduce the need for vets, what's the advantage.
Having said that, I can't see a disadvantage to it, so who cares what you feed?
You feed raw, I feed kibble, we both have happy, healthy dogs.
Why not just say ' I feed raw and both my dogs and I enjoy it'?
If you don't want to be treated like a Dbag, don't go being a Dbag.
Simple.

[Vonzeppelinkennels]

OK you have compared Raw to Kibble now lets compare walking horses to walking shoes!! Man are you for real & size has nothing to do with anything.

[Garrison]

Judging by Isaac's last video and goose pictures, I think Banks has been eating and doing just fine over the last 2 months! Time to put this one to bed.

[slistoe]

Why is it that anyone who supports a raw diet is labeled as pushing some sort of agenda with you guys. Well why are you pushing your agenda to oppose everyone who supports feeding a raw diet. I have no agenda, I am simply giving advice based on my own experience and that of others that do it, along with lots of research that is available to anyone who cares to challenge the benefits of feeding raw, and there are vets along with people who have many years of experience raising dogs that support it. I said this is my first hunting dog, but I have had 2 other dogs and both those dogs ate bag dog food and had their fair share of health problems. Yes some of those who oppose my stance have some experience raising dogs and some who support my stance also have years of experience raising dogs. So what's your point? All you have left is your scientific proof and we already established that nature already has all the goods. Could it be your just bias and believe only dog food companies can provide the best nutrition for a dog?

You honestly believe that the reaction you're getting is solely because you feed raw?

X2
I could care less if you or anyone else chooses to feed raw. I think I already made that quite clear.

[MonsterDad]

Why is it that anyone who supports a raw diet is labeled as pushing some sort of agenda with you guys. Well why are you pushing your agenda to oppose everyone who supports feeding a raw diet. I have no agenda, I am simply giving advice based on my own experience and that of others that do it, along with lots of research that is available to anyone who cares to challenge the benefits of feeding raw, and there are vets along with people who have many years of experience raising dogs that support it. I said this is my first hunting dog, but I have had 2 other dogs and both those dogs ate bag dog food and had their fair share of health problems. Yes some of those who oppose my stance have some experience raising dogs and some who support my stance also have years of experience raising dogs. So what's your point? All you have left is your scientific proof and we already established that nature already has all the goods. Could it be your just bias and believe only dog food companies can provide the best nutrition for a dog?

So you have noticed the double-standard and industrial feed company bias? What you said is spot on and it comes from their insecurity. When one party reacts this way it is because the other guy is right. It is just human nature.

As I said before, there is no doubt a fresh, raw diet is better. The question is whether on balance it is really worth it in the end. I believe it is but others feel differently. The honest way to disagree with an issue like this is simply say "technically fresh, raw feeding is better but I don't see that it is worth the extra time and energy". Arguing that kibble is better is like saying giving an infant canned or powdered baby formula is better than mothers' milk. Foolish.

[walkos5]

So you have noticed the double-standard and industrial feed company bias? What you said is spot on and it comes from their insecurity. When one party reacts this way it is because the other guy is right. It is just human nature. As I said before, there is no doubt a fresh, raw diet is better. The question is whether on balance it is really worth it in the end. I believe it is but others feel differently. The honest way to disagree with an issue like this is simply say "technically fresh, raw feeding is better but I don't see that it is worth the extra time and energy". Arguing that kibble is better is like saying giving an infant canned or powdered baby formula is better than mothers' milk. Foolish.

I agree. All they have done from the start is sling mug at every comment supporting a raw diet. To say they are bias and insecure is an understatement. I don't care what they feed their dogs either, and the more ridiculous their statements the better chance other readers will look for answers and find the truth.

[ezzy333]

OK, before the Kibble Feeders throw any more mud at the two upstanding young men who have a wonderful knowledge of dog food and are willing to teach you if you ask, I will have to shut this down as every bit of possible knowledge has been disseminated to the mentally deprived.

Ezzy