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Remington 28 ga

Post by jbraun » Thu May 22, 2008 2:43 pm

I bought a used 1100 sporting 28 ga and need a set of chokes if anybody knows of any.

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Re: Remington 28 ga

Post by coveycreek » Fri May 23, 2008 10:15 am

Is it a newer one? If so I think it should use remchokes which are available all over the place. Check Cabelas even if it is just to see what is available.

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Re: Remington 28 ga

Post by tfbirddog2 » Fri May 23, 2008 2:11 pm

look up carlsonschoketubes.com his skeet tube is perfect for quail in that gun.
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Re: Remington 28 ga

Post by claybuster_aa » Fri May 23, 2008 9:14 pm

jbraun wrote:I bought a used 1100 sporting 28 ga and need a set of chokes if anybody knows of any.
They are Briley chokes, but not sure if anybody is making them...I don't think TruLock, Hastings, Colonial, etc., would make anything for that gun. I think if you want them quick you will need to get in touch with Briley. You may get lucky and come across something on ebay or gunbroker, but maybe not.

I have the gun and it came with 4 extended Brileys. I would call Briley and see if the flush mounts will fit in the Sporting 28.
That would appear to be good option.

http://www.briley.com/index.asp?PageAct ... ategory=35

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Re: Remington 28 ga

Post by Michael Jobe » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:24 am

jbraun wrote:I bought a used 1100 sporting 28 ga and need a set of chokes if anybody knows of any.
Briley has chokes for it.

Take the O-ring off before shooting that gun. The gas ports on the Sporting 28s are too big. In 1500 rounds, mine broke the part the bolt rides on three times. Took the O-ring off and the gun worked fine for another 3000 or so shells until it recently broke the extractor. Reading the posts at shotgunworld.com it sounds like there are a lot of Sporting 28s out there tearing themselves apart on a regular basis.

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Re: Remington 28 ga

Post by Greg Jennings » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:17 pm

Michael Jobe wrote:
jbraun wrote:I bought a used 1100 sporting 28 ga and need a set of chokes if anybody knows of any.
Briley has chokes for it.

Take the O-ring off before shooting that gun. The gas ports on the Sporting 28s are too big. In 1500 rounds, mine broke the part the bolt rides on three times. Took the O-ring off and the gun worked fine for another 3000 or so shells until it recently broke the extractor. Reading the posts at shotgunworld.com it sounds like there are a lot of Sporting 28s out there tearing themselves apart on a regular basis.

~Michael
Michael,
That's very interesting. I've put about 1,000 through one with no issues. I'll keep my eyes open.

As a thought, what if you tapped one of the ports and plugged it with a screw. Plugging it with a little loc-tite or similar might give you an idea if it would work before going to the trouble. You could also clean up the holes, fill them with solder and drill them out to a smaller size.

Just wild thoughts....

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Re: Remington 28 ga

Post by claybuster_aa » Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:41 pm

Michael Jobe wrote: Take the O-ring off before shooting that gun. ~Michael
IMO I think it would be wise to ignore that advice.

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Re: Remington 28 ga

Post by Michael Jobe » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:39 am

claybuster_aa wrote:
Michael Jobe wrote: Take the O-ring off before shooting that gun. ~Michael
IMO I think it would be wise to ignore that advice.

Charlie
Why? It permits some gas to dump off, slows the bolt down, and throws the hulls three or four feet, rather than the 20 feet it throws them with the O-ring on. My gun cycles 5/8 oz loads just fine with the O-ring off.

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Re: Remington 28 ga

Post by jbraun » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:55 pm

Got the choke tubes from Briley. This will be a hunting gun as I do not shoot clays, so it will take me a while to put a 1000 rounds through this gun. Charlie, just curious what would you think would be the downside to shooting without the o-ring? I have a lt 20 and it has had cycleing issues when the o-ring needed replacing becouse it split or when the gas ports need some attention.

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Re: Remington 28 ga

Post by claybuster_aa » Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:58 pm

Well, I don't know...several reasons I suppose. I don't doubt that the gun will operate and it won't throw them 20' any longer, but I don't think it is a good idea. The barrel seal is a part and wouldn't be there if I didn't have legitimate purpose.
Maybe over time you can do some damage to your gun without the o-ring. Michael had already noted he went though an extractor. I find that interesting, maybe there is a connection there, they should last a pretty good while I think.

These guns I think it is fair to say are destined to become, if not already, what one would to refer to as an icon, legendary icons at that. I want every part that is suppose to be there, be there. I would feel like I ‘d be doing a disservice to the gun if I shot it any other way other than how it was suppose to be put together.

I picked up a shell catcher for mine. The singles will fall right at your feet 90% of the time, and you only have to hunt down the doubles. It does throw them pretty good but I think in time when the o-ring starts to wear it will settle down some.

Michael, what are you shooting for ammo…AA or STS….reloads?

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Re: Remington 28 ga

Post by jbraun » Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:17 pm

Shell catcher sounds interesting. I found one from T&S but it says it does not work on the sporting model. Also from looking at the pictures it looks like the bolt does not close and the spent shell kind of hangs out the side. That would not work for a hunting gun. Could you give me some more info on what you have got. Thanks.

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Re: Remington 28 ga

Post by claybuster_aa » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:25 pm

You wouldn't want a shell catcher for hunting, it's for one shot only. I have the T&S for the 28-410 and it does fit on my Sporting 28. They must have added after I purchased, I would have noted that it wasn't intended for Sporting models and probably not because it only slows them down so they drop at your feet instead.
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Re: Remington 28 ga

Post by Michael Jobe » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:44 am

claybuster_aa wrote:Well, I don't know...several reasons I suppose. I don't doubt that the gun will operate and it won't throw them 20' any longer, but I don't think it is a good idea. The barrel seal is a part and wouldn't be there if I didn't have legitimate purpose.
Maybe over time you can do some damage to your gun without the o-ring. Michael had already noted he went though an extractor. I find that interesting, maybe there is a connection there, they should last a pretty good while I think.

These guns I think it is fair to say are destined to become, if not already, what one would to refer to as an icon, legendary icons at that. I want every part that is suppose to be there, be there. I would feel like I ‘d be doing a disservice to the gun if I shot it any other way other than how it was suppose to be put together.

I picked up a shell catcher for mine. The singles will fall right at your feet 90% of the time, and you only have to hunt down the doubles. It does throw them pretty good but I think in time when the o-ring starts to wear it will settle down some.

Michael, what are you shooting for ammo…AA or STS….reloads?

Charlie
Started with factory ammo (through the first three break downs) until I built up a nice supply of hulls, then I started reloading. Gun broke the first time at just over 100 shells. Was fixed by the local Remington repair guy. Broke the second time about 400 or 500 shells later. The gun then went to Remington where they buggered and replaced the wood while fixing the broken parts. Third time it broke was at around 1500 shells. Remington sent me the parts to fix it myself. It kept breaking the part the bolt ride on, due to the bolt traveling too darn fast and slamming into the back of the reciever. Took off the O-ring and it went the longest it has gone without breaking. I chalk up the extractor breaking to cheap parts, or due to damage done before the O-ring was removed. Like I said earlier, read up on Sporting 28s at shotgunworld.com, there are a lot of people having problems with them and IMO it all stems from too much gas coming back into the system. There's two gas ports, and at best there should be one.

As for the O-Ring, it's job is to seal the front of the gas cylinder and direct gas towards the pistons, and that's it. The only thing taking the O-ring off can hurt is your 1100's ability to cycle. Take the O-ring off an 1100 Trap and too much gas escapes and it can't work the action. Take the O-ring off the Sporting 28 and it will cylce like an auto loader is supposed to, rather than throwing hulls all the way from one skeet position to the next.

I've spoken about Remington about taking the O-ring off my gun. They said it wouldn't hurt it, and they weren't too concerned about the problems I or other have been having with their Sporting 28s.

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Re: Remington 28 ga

Post by Cowboy » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:43 pm

briley's about the best there is in my opinion, you have a great gun there

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Re: Remington 28 ga

Post by claybuster_aa » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:13 pm

Michael Jobe wrote:
Started with factory ammo (through the first three break downs) until I built up a nice supply of hulls, then I started reloading. Gun broke the first time at just over 100 shells. ... ~Michael

I asked about the AA's or STS because over time they are probably the best to shoot out of any AUTO. Reason being you know they are full brass. Out of an O/U it really doesn't matter, you won't hurt your gun but in autoloaders it is best over time to shoot only Full Brass. Factory ammo like the generic four-packs are not full brass. Remove the spent primer and put a magnet to the base. If it sticks, they are steel. If they look like brass but it sticks, they aren't full brass but rather brass plated. Full brass has some give, more flexible unlike steel. The concern is the extractor and the more abrasive contact over time as oppose to the smoother give of brass. You will go through an ejector quicker shooting steel base hulls. The hulls to reload are the AA or the STS's.
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Re: Remington 28 ga

Post by claybuster_aa » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:03 pm

I would like to add, when I mentioned 'legendary' and 'icon' prior, I am referring to the 1100 in general. A lemon 1100...anything is possible I guess but the repeated breakdowns in short stretches Michael is experiencing with his gun is unfortunate. Could be the ammo with the extractors, shooting steel bases, but even then I'm giving the extractor 15K easy. I called Remington on my 1100 20 STD Skeet, made in '68 (early production). I picked this up a few years back at a shop, Pachmayer Old English Pad to boot, reasonable priced. Whoever put the Old English on put it there to shoot the "bleep" out of her and probably has in excess of 200K well driven.... and I recently picked er up a spanking "bleep" brand new O-Ring barrel seal. Every 2-3 hundred I break em down. Take the triggers group pins out, pull the trigger group, and get in there nice in the back of the receiver for a clean, wipe the mag tube, clean up the bolt, etc. I got nothing but all positives for my two...I may have to picked me up used a 12G someday with screw-ins, unless I get lucky and find a fixed skeet of course.
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Re: Remington 28 ga

Post by Michael Jobe » Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:17 am

I've put a few STSs through the gun, but the vast majority have been AAs since they reload so well.

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