Stoeger M2000

hoffmann35 · Post by **hoffmann35** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:22 pm

Anyone had any experience with this gun? There seems to be a lot of negatives out there about them. Was curious about the gun and interested in maybe getting one. Thanks

Maverick · Post by **Maverick** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:59 am

I have several friends who own them and have had no issues what so ever with them. Stoeger is owned by Berretta, who also owns Bennelli, Franci to name a few.
The 2000 has the Bennelli Inertia system built into it and in my opinion is a fantastic gun for the money.

Mav....

RuttCrazed · Post by **RuttCrazed** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:17 pm

I know our Cabelas (Lehi, UT) has them on sale for $370, sounds like a good deal. I think I will pick one up and give you a report.

Rut

hoffmann35 · Post by **hoffmann35** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:12 pm

Rut that sounds like a great price for one. I can't decide if it will be the M2000 or a Browning Gold in shadow grass. The price difference is the biggest issue. Let me know how it is if you get one. Its too late for me here. The sloughs froze up and no boat for the river

omega58 · Post by **omega58** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:47 am

I won a 2000 back in September at a PF banquet. I have not had one problem with it so far. It has cycled anything I have put through it and performed in the uplands and waterfowling. I still don't shoot it as well as I do my Verona auto, but it is coming along. I am handicapped with my autos with being left-handed and the safety being on the wrong side.

I would go ahead and buy the Stoeger, get 28" barrels, not the 26" . .I didn't have much of a choice, it was free.

RuttCrazed · Post by **RuttCrazed** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:51 pm

I ended up picking up a slightly used Benelli M1 for almost the same price as a new Stoeger, so I went with that.

Rut

omega58 · Post by **omega58** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:41 pm

RuttCrazed wrote:I ended up picking up a slightly used Benelli M1 for almost the same price as a new Stoeger, so I went with that.

Rut

Nice choice

Jedi Woodsman · Post by **Jedi Woodsman** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:24 pm

Maverick wrote:I have several friends who own them and have had no issues what so ever with them. Stoeger is owned by Berretta, who also owns Bennelli, Franci to name a few.
The 2000 has the Bennelli Inertia system built into it and in my opinion is a fantastic gun for the money.

Mav....

The only guns under that name are:
A. Ulberti
Franchi
Stoeger
Benelli

Berretta is a different company all together.

Maverick · Post by **Maverick** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:34 pm

Jedi Woodsman wrote:
Maverick wrote:I have several friends who own them and have had no issues what so ever with them. Stoeger is owned by Berretta, who also owns Bennelli, Franci to name a few.
The 2000 has the Bennelli Inertia system built into it and in my opinion is a fantastic gun for the money.

Mav....
The only guns under that name are:
A. Ulberti
Franchi
Stoeger
Benelli

Berretta is a different company all together.

Actually you are incorrect, as I know the folks from Berretta here in Canada and obtained the information directly from them.
Berretta owns them all.
But don't believe me see it listed on the net for all to see.
Go to http://www.beretta.com/ and click on Group to see all the above companies listed plus a few more that Berretta owns.

Mav.....

Jedi Woodsman · Post by **Jedi Woodsman** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:32 am

Maverick wrote:
Jedi Woodsman wrote:
Maverick wrote:I have several friends who own them and have had no issues what so ever with them. Stoeger is owned by Berretta, who also owns Bennelli, Franci to name a few.
The 2000 has the Bennelli Inertia system built into it and in my opinion is a fantastic gun for the money.

Mav....
The only guns under that name are:
A. Ulberti
Franchi
Stoeger
Benelli

Berretta is a different company all together.
Actually you are incorrect, as I know the folks from Berretta here in Canada and obtained the information directly from them.
Berretta owns them all.
But don't believe me see it listed on the net for all to see.
Go to http://www.beretta.com/ and click on Group to see all the above companies listed plus a few more that Berretta owns.

Mav.....

I'm suprised! I did not know that! Does beretta use the same systems that are inertia driven also?

mtlee · Post by **mtlee** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:52 pm

Two of my hunting buddies use them and love them. I've shot them and like them. Like you, I read a lot of bad things about them. I contemplated getting one but ending up buying a Nova for the duck blind. Although no one I know personally has had any trouble with them I knew as soon as I got one it would fall apart (if something sounds too good to be true it probably is)....guess I'm just paranoid

EVIL X · Post by **EVIL X** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:47 pm

I have one, and have had one for almost 2 years. I got the walnut stocked version, and I love it.

For my girlfriends birthday, I am planning on getting a camo m2000, because she likes the feel of the m2000 over her 11-87.

I haven't had any problems with it, I think allot of it is maintence, and how you break them in.

hoffmann35 · Post by **hoffmann35** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:39 am

Evil, what load did you use to "break it in" ?

omega58 · Post by **omega58** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:31 am

EVIL X wrote:I have one, and have had one for almost 2 years. I got the walnut stocked version, and I love it.

For my girlfriends birthday, I am planning on getting a camo m2000, because she likes the feel of the m2000 over her 11-87.

I haven't had any problems with it, I think allot of it is maintence, and how you break them in.

I would get a recoil pad for her, I love mine. The prefitted limbsaver recoil pad really helps out the M2000 as well. I honestly think the Limbsaver pad for $30 is better than the Benelli comfort tech system.

EVIL X · Post by **EVIL X** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:11 pm

hoffmann35 wrote:Evil, what load did you use to "break it in" ?

I lubed the gun heavily, then went and shot about 150-200 rounds of standard federal #6 2-3/4 all in one skeet session ( almost as fast as I could).

Then I came home and stipped it all down, whipping all of the oil off,scrubbed all the grime from the day, and applied a thin spray from then on out.

SeventhSon · Post by **SeventhSon** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:00 pm

I just wish they made this in a 20 gauge. I would buy one in a heartbeat for my wife to hunt pheasant with, and then I could steal it for chukar hunting...

bklyn hunter · Post by **bklyn hunter** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:02 pm

i have one in camo i had alittle problem with it but cust.service was great and they had it for about 3-4 days and they sent it back(also was duck season )to make me happy and never had a problem with it since.they had to change the bolt action it was milled slight big not always cycling but i love it.

Devils Creek · Post by **Devils Creek** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:44 am

One of my hunting partners bought one 3 years ago, and he shoots a bunch. He's single, and probably hunts 3-4 days a week all season. It's primarily his duck & goose gun, as he has a delightful 20 gauge Win 101 for grousing.

He's had zero problems, but does caution that you have to make sure the gun is mounted if you're snap shooting. If the gun isn't solid against your shoulder, there is no resistance for the action to work against, and may fail to chamber the 2nd round.

gr_elliott · Post by **gr_elliott** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:26 am

I did lots of research before i got my new semi-auto, stoger was on of the front runners until I came accross the Baikal MP135....most bang for your buck in this gun. Dont let the price fool you, the only gun i have ever handled that shoulders better then the Baikal is the SBE II....not bad company right there

omega58 · Post by **omega58** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:10 pm

gr_elliott wrote:I did lots of research before i got my new semi-auto, stoger was on of the front runners until I came accross the Baikal MP135....most bang for your buck in this gun. Dont let the price fool you, the only gun i have ever handled that shoulders better then the Baikal is the SBE II....not bad company right there

The MP135/Spr435 is a descent gun from what I hear, but I went with the Mossberg 935 as my new auto. I sold my Mossberg 835 and for an extra $200 picked up the 935, not bad as the 835 was about 5 years old and was my turkey gun and that's it. I love thumb tang safeties being a lefty and all.

brdhntr · Post by **brdhntr** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:58 pm

I bought a Stoeger 2000, and it was the biggest piece of junk I have ever shot. It would not feed shells out of the mag tube, and the bolt handle kept coming out as it was shot. It actually came out and hit me in the mouth and chipped my front tooth. I shot about 150 rounds through it before I figured it was not going to work. The great people at Sportsman's Warehouse bought the gun back at full price and made me a good deal on an 11-87 premier.

Post by **ezzy333** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:26 pm

brdhntr

I didn't know the Stoeger had a bolt. How in the world would a bolt come out when shooting?

Ezzy

Post by **Greg Jennings** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:57 am

I would think that he's talking about the operating arm. They usually insert into the bolt and are held with a detent ball system.

I've never seen one fail, but I can imagine that if the detent-ball thingie failed that it would smack one in the teeth especially if one were left-handed or didn't have the gun completely cheeked.

Best regards, Greg J.

brdhntr · Post by **brdhntr** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:10 am

I am left handed, and on my Benelli they refer to it as a bolt handle in the parts manual. When I would insert the handle it felt like it was catching on the detent properly, but it wasn't held in with enough spring force. It would come out about ever third shot. Even if the handle didn't fly out it still wouldn't feed shells out of the tube if it had less than 3 in it. So 5 shells would get you 3 shots.

Neanderthal · Post by **Neanderthal** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:17 am

I shoot a 2000 and love it! They require a good owner who is willing to read and follow instructions in the manual. Most people with problems refuse to read. When new, before firing, they need to be completely torn down and thoroughly cleaned-a 10-15 minute job the first time. This is important! I left mine quite heavily oiled and worked the bolt back and forth a high number of times while watching a movie. I believe this greatly reduces break in time. Then just shot 1.25 0z. shells for the first 100 shells or so. Never one failure to function of any kind, ever! This gun shoulders and shoots so much like a Montefeltro it is amazing. Lay the two down side by side and they look like twins. It fits me great and I hit more with it than I ever did with my Wingmaster that I shot for 34 years. I installed a Limbsaver recoil pad and added a little weight to the stock and it has very light felt recoil now. I would highly recommend this gun. They are under-rated and a great value, IMO!

mikeyair · Post by **mikeyair** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:17 pm

ive had mine for 3 years now and i havent had any troble and the gun has been tossed in the back of the pick up the boat and the blind never once failed hoever my cousin has one in a camo patern that is less than a year old and its back at the manufacture being repaired because the choke tube had expanded a bit and bugerd the threads up he blames the amunition fedral black cloud bb but i think he had to tight of a choke in it since i shot the same amo with a inproved cylinder and didnt have any troble. but i would and have recomended the gun to any body looking for an auto thats a bit easier on the pocket book

AT2 · Post by **AT2** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:16 pm

was he shooting full choke with steel, one of my guns says not to do that.

mikeyair · Post by **mikeyair** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:31 pm

knowing mark probobly was a full chock hes one that dosnt read owners manuals and he use to use a full chock out of his mossber 835

mikehos · Post by **mikehos** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:17 pm

They are great guns. With Benelli technology behind them they have to be great. I have a friend with one and he loves it. no issues. I just baught one for my son for Christmas. I cant wait to shoot it. I shoot a Benelli SBEII I picked up for cheap at a pawn shop or I would have one.

omega58 · Post by **omega58** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:09 pm

Neanderthal wrote:I shoot a 2000 and love it! They require a good owner who is willing to read and follow instructions in the manual. Most people with problems refuse to read. When new, before firing, they need to be completely torn down and thoroughly cleaned-a 10-15 minute job the first time. This is important! I left mine quite heavily oiled and worked the bolt back and forth a high number of times while watching a movie. I believe this greatly reduces break in time. Then just shot 1.25 0z. shells for the first 100 shells or so. Never one failure to function of any kind, ever! This gun shoulders and shoots so much like a Montefeltro it is amazing. Lay the two down side by side and they look like twins. It fits me great and I hit more with it than I ever did with my Wingmaster that I shot for 34 years. I installed a Limbsaver recoil pad and added a little weight to the stock and it has very light felt recoil now. I would highly recommend this gun. They are under-rated and a great value, IMO!

I would agree to some extent, but I had one that I sold to a friend and he has been having problems with it not cycling properly. I ran through everything for break-in period and had about 500 shots through it. I take care of my guns as well as anyone and this thing just refuses to cycle sometimes. It has done so with a few different ammo brands, so not sure what to make of it? I even had him bring it over and I tore it down and cleaned and lubed it. . .still did the same thing. . . and yes, the 1 year warranty is up. . .wish the warranty was a little better, 1 year is kind of silly IMO.

My Mossbergs have treated me well, I think the Mossberg 930 is the best value for a semi on the market now, but the Stoeger is still a good gun, just some of them are still having problems. (and yes, this is a "new" model of M2000 with the red bead front)

mikeyair · Post by **mikeyair** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:20 pm

well i finally had an issue with mine i took the plug out this weekend when we were doing some phesant hunting and for some resson it wouldnt cycle the last round into the chamber. im wondering if it just dosnt have enough spring tension to push the shell all the way out of the magazine

ohiohuntinweim · Post by **ohiohuntinweim** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:54 pm

Anyone ever had a problem with it cycling 3" shells. I had read an article somewhere where some of the 3"shells when rolled were a little longer and it had problems feeding them.

garytglenn · Post by **garytglenn** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:09 am

Evil X,

Where did you find a girl like that. If I bought my wife a shotgun for her birthday she would use it on me.

treedaddy · Post by **treedaddy** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:43 pm

I just got a Stoeger 2000. Fun gun to shoot, but the saftey is very hard to push off. I missed a quail today because I didn't get the saftey pushed in. I'm talking a lot of pressure. I have oiled it and pushed it in and out several times, but it still requires lots of pressure for my index finger. What can I do to make it easier like my Browning?

mikeyair · Post by **mikeyair** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:33 pm

thats od ive never had or heard of a problem with the safty i would work it back and forth a bunch of times mabey it needs broke in.

romeo212000 · Post by **romeo212000** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:07 am

They recommend that youbreak the action in with a box of heavy loads. This is because it is inertia driven, not gas powered. Its basically just a spring.

jbogacki76 · Post by **jbogacki76** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:25 pm

I just picked up a 2000 for Turkey Hunting. For 299.00 I couldnt pass it up.

Although it is a decent brush beater for the price I havent shot it yet. I have a couple buddies that upland hunt with them and they love them. They goose hunt with the M2000 also with no problems.

I think a lot of guys bash them since they are made in Turkey. If I could, I would have purchased another Berreta 391 in camo, but I didnt want to pay that much.

But I look at it like this. 299, plus another 249.00 for a slug barrel. I kill two birds with one stone for 500.00.

Hopefully it lasts.

tanner · Post by **tanner** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:44 pm

i just bought one a week ago from today and my only problem is that i didnt buy one sooner, i love the inertia recoil, it is a breeze to clean, the whole gun comes apart with the pull of two pins, the action takes a little bit to break in but it will cycle as fast as you can pull the trigger.