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Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:10 pm
by Deets
I have recently moved from Colorado to Okalhoma. I have not secured any private land in Oklahoma yet. I was thinking about hunting Black Kettle national grass land, and Pack Saddle WMA. Has anyone had and exprecince quail hunting out there, or on any other public lands in OK? I plan on hunting WIHA in south central Kansas as well, but I would like to find a place closer to home.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:04 pm
by maximus1
I hunt these 2 areas every year and the quail population has been declining for several years. There are birds there but it's not like it used to be. I hunt Kansas as much as I can and some days are better than others. Last year was a tough one in both states. There are several public areas around western Ok but they get hunted pretty hard.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:01 pm
by Britts522
I hunted Black Kettle once a few years ago and had pretty good luck hunting the creek beds. I wouldn't go on opening weekend though, it is supposedly packed then.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:21 pm
by RoostersMom
I've hunted both. Prefered Packsaddle to Black Kettle. There were good bird numbers and we had some good hunts! This was several years ago though.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:42 pm
by ACooper
Bird numbers in western OK have been brutally low the last several years. I've hunted Packsaddle, Black kettle, Cooper, Beaver, Optima, Sandy Sanders, and FT Supply. I cannot say I would recommend any of them with the current bird populations.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:25 pm
by birddogpete
ACooper wrote:Bird numbers in western OK have been brutally low the last several years. I've hunted Packsaddle, Black kettle, Cooper, Beaver, Optima, Sandy Sanders,
FT Supply. I cannot say I would recommend any of them with the current bird populations.
+1
Back in 04-06 we could move 12-15 coveys a day on any of the WMA's he mentioned and it's been all down hill ever since good luck on your search

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:17 pm
by cstokes/southeast,ks
Thats a fine looking avatar dog pete.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:33 pm
by birddogpete
Thanks!!!!he's a special dog

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:23 pm
by Deets
Thanks for the replies. I think I will go out there and check it out even with the numbers on decline. Im supprised the limit is still 10 birds a day. Seems like a large limit given the severe decline.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:27 pm
by kbshorthairs
cstokes/southeast,ks wrote:Thats a fine looking avatar dog pete.

I am going to have to concur!

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:35 am
by tommyboy72
Even bird numbers on private land are in the crapper right now both pheasant and quail (blue and bobwhite). You know we had a hard drought when it starts affecting the blue quail numbers.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:04 am
by cbump
Has anyone tried Packsaddle this year? I'm working in the area so going to go out there Thursday and Friday. Never been so any tips would helpful. Thanks

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:35 pm
by Deets
I tried Cooper, and only saw two birds. I saw more porky pines than quail. I had better luck on Kansas WIHA. Personally I think Kansas has a better system than the Oklahoma WMAs. I don't know why Oklahoma thinks they need to own all of thier public hunting land.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:19 pm
by ACooper
Going to open an old one back up, anyone seeing any birds in Western OK? I hunted Sandy Sanders this morning, still pretty tough go out there for man and dog. Saw one really big covey but that was all I was able to find today.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:36 pm
by jfwhit
I've never been to Sandy Sanders. I saw a decent covey at Ft. supply a couple weeks ago. Are the goathead stickers bad at Sanders. They were horrible at the spot I was at Supply. Opening day at Black Kettle I only saw a double near the end of the day. Others found coveys.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:54 pm
by maocasio
Speaking of Packsaddle areas, going West along the Canadian River on the Texas side of border, there's the Gene Howe WMA. I know this year with all the rain we've experienced the quail population has had a significant jump. On average of 6 to 13 decent sized coveys.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:27 am
by GSP4ME
ACooper wrote:Going to open an old one back up, anyone seeing any birds in Western OK? I hunted Sandy Sanders this morning, still pretty tough go out there for man and dog. Saw one really big covey but that was all I was able to find today.

The fella I got my dog from went to black kettle the second weekend of quail and said they moved 7 covey the first day and another 6 the next. It figures, since I chose instead to go north(kaw) while they went west. Gonna try and get out to black kettle in the next week. I'll let ya know how it goes.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:30 pm
by jfwhit
Wow. That's a good number. I never know which section to hunt when I'm there. Always pick the wrong ones. I'm assuming theses are all different coveys each day?

I've had small luck at packsaddle.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:31 am
by GSP4ME
Didn't get to make it out this weekend. Anyone else been out there in the past couple weeks?

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:43 am
by ACooper
GSP4ME wrote:Didn't get to make it out this weekend. Anyone else been out there in the past couple weeks?
Been out and about a lot, not just for quail but pheasants and waterfowl. There are birds around. Some places there are a bunch.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:29 pm
by cbump
Is duck hunting allowed on the Canadian river in packsaddle?

Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:18 am
by GSP4ME
Heard there were some birds at Lexington wma so since it's a bit closer to home, thought I'd give it a shot. We got into one small covey(6birds) and managed to make it home with one. Ranger worked well -getting better with each trip to the field. But my poor shooting left a lot to be desired

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:31 am
by GSP4ME
Spoke with a friend who was out that way over the weekend. Birds, birds, and more birds.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:53 am
by chwagn11
To many people and if you were planning on hunting there I would not have posted it on the internet to attract more hunters.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:38 pm
by Kellym

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:04 pm
by Deets
chwagn11 wrote:To many people and if you were planning on hunting there I would not have posted it on the internet to attract more hunters.
It's free and there are birds, of course there are a lot of people there. It's not a secret, its public hunting area. Isn't this what the forum is all about sharing information about upland game hunting. If people stop using these public areas they will go away.

Re: Black Kettle/Packsaddle Oklahoma

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:55 pm
by GSP4ME
chwagn11 wrote:To many people and if you were planning on hunting there I would not have posted it on the internet to attract more hunters.

It's 2015. black kettle and packsaddle are going to get more than their fair share of hunters and I doubt very seriously that anything I posted will change that one way or the other. It's not like I revealed a super secret quail hunting location that folks on a gundog forum were unaware of.