New SR Hunter (Awesome April)

Coveyrise64 · Post by **Coveyrise64** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:55 pm

My young GSP, TJ'S Miss Filson, a.k.a. (Freckles) finsihed her SR Title Saturday and then put two Master placements in the books that afternoon and this morning. All in all, April was an awesome month for her, qualifying in 5 of 6 attempts in Oklahoma, Missouri, and Kansas Hunt Tests. Now getting ready for a June UT Test in Wisconsin.

Windrow’s Saddle Tramp MH, UT II
DR. N’s CJ FC VC MH
Dr. N’s Lady Charlie MH
TJ’S Miss Filson SH
FC AFC Rusty’s Blue Earth Rexx
Rolyat’s Impressive Sadie
Mariah of Impressive ABHA Derby CH

Thanks to Snips for her timely advice and of course the new NAVHDA Training program we have been using.

Coveyrise64

nitrex · Post by **nitrex** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:59 pm

Hey Coveyrise,

Congrats!!!!

Were you at the Sunflower GSP/Southern Kansas Brittney hunt test this weekend? I went Saturday and my female GSP finished her Jr Title. I had prior plans so I couldn't make it out today. It looks like the weather was a little nicer than the rain we had yesterday.

Nitrex

snips · Post by **snips** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:17 pm

Way to go guys! Looks like you are definetly on the right road!

original mngsp · Post by **original mngsp** » Mon May 01, 2006 4:58 am

Nice Job

honeyrun · Post by **honeyrun** » Mon May 01, 2006 5:38 am

Congrats,

Did you run both Senior and Master legs on the same day, same test? Check the rule book, you can not do that. Hope it wasn't the case, as AKC will take the master leg away.

Coveyrise64 · Post by **Coveyrise64** » Mon May 01, 2006 6:10 am

On Saturday her Sr Hunter was finished in the Sunflower GSP Club Test and her first leg of Master was run in the Southern Kansas Britt Club Test. Two different tests and grounds (across the from each other), there was an AKC Rep there as well.

Coveyrise64

Kurzhaar · Post by **Kurzhaar** » Mon May 01, 2006 6:59 am

Way to go!!!!!

Isn't a great feeling when it all fits together?

I have never seen any dogs from Cecil or from his lines but from all I hear he was the prepotent type of sire that the Old Germans talked about.

Congrats on the SH and Good Luck with the UT.

Jim

Post by **Ayres** » Mon May 01, 2006 8:29 am

Coveyrise64 wrote:On Saturday her Sr Hunter was finished in the Sunflower GSP Club Test and her first leg of Master was run in the Southern Kansas Britt Club Test. Two different tests and grounds (across the from each other), there was an AKC Rep there as well.

Coveyrise64

Now that is workin' the system to its fullest potential! Congrats!

Dave Quindt · Post by **Dave Quindt** » Mon May 01, 2006 2:02 pm

Congrats on your SH - it's good to see another CJ offspring out showing their stuff. I know Doc and Arlene will be happy as well.

How about posting a pic of your dog as an adult - I'd love to see her but can only find pics of her as a pup?

Good luck in Masters,
Dave

Post by **pear** » Mon May 01, 2006 9:40 pm

Great job Covey !!! Must be nice to be able to hit two tests in one day. I'm lucky if I can get two in one weekend grounds are really spread out in my area. 3 hours is a short drive from home it seems. Keep up the good work. ..."pear"

Coveyrise64 · Post by **Coveyrise64** » Tue May 02, 2006 7:16 am

Great job Covey !!! Must be nice to be able to hit two tests in one day. I'm lucky if I can get two in one weekend grounds are really spread out in my area. 3 hours is a short drive from home it seems. Keep up the good work.

Thanks for the compliments. The Sunflower GSP Club and the Southern Kansas Brittany Club do one heck of a job coordinating this event. It has really caught on and is nice to have that many opportunities, especially if you have a long trip to make.

Stay the course.....

Coveyrise64

Post by **Ayres** » Tue May 02, 2006 10:53 am

I wish some of the clubs in my area would do that. As is, there are three separate potential running grounds all within the same conservation area. Two are right across the road (share a parking lot) and the third is less than a half mile down the road.

We get some FT/HT days, but never two hunt tests on the same day. The clubs seem to like to run them on successive weekends starting in February and ending in April.

Coveyrise64 · Post by **Coveyrise64** » Sat May 13, 2006 8:20 pm

Honeyrun,

Did you run both Senior and Master legs on the same day, same test? Check the rule book, you can not do that. Hope it wasn't the case, as AKC will take the master leg away.

I checked the test results for AKC and I did get credit for the Master placement I ran on Saturday. Thanks for bringing to my attention because I sure wouldn't have known. Still not sure where the rule is in the book but it always nice to have someone looking out for one another.

Coveyrise64

Post by **Ayres** » Sat May 13, 2006 11:03 pm

You USED to be able to run a master and senior leg in the same day. Worked out great if you passed both and the senior was the last leg for the title, because it gave you a one-up on travel expenses. The AKC cracked down on that though, and made the rule that you could not pass a master leg and then run a senior leg in the same test. They way you did it, though, was with two different tests at two different grounds, just side-by-side on the same day. Very sneaky. I like it.

gundogguru · Post by **gundogguru** » Sun May 14, 2006 6:23 am

Congrats on the SH and Master pass. The rules state that once you get a quilfying leg in a stake you can not run in a lesser stake. So if you ran in a senior brace and passed you can't run in a junior brace.

Post by **Ayres** » Sun May 14, 2006 10:52 pm

I think what some people play on is that the leg is not "qualified" until the day is done and the records are sent in to the AKC. That's why you used to be able to run a master and then run a senior at the same test on the same day before the rule change. It wasn't really a change, but more of a clarification to stop that sort of thing. But, when done at two different tests on two different grounds on the same day, it still circumvents the rule.

My guess is that it won't be long until the AKC puts out another "clarification" on that rule to stop that too, though.

birddog · Post by **birddog** » Mon May 15, 2006 7:05 am

Been reading this post with interest. According to AKC rules you cannot run two hunt tests on the same day, if they are within a 100 mile range of each other. Our club had to give up our Sunday test because another club was holding a test 20 miles away at a different grounds. Because they had put in for the same Sunday test date before us, we had to cancel our Sunday test.

Janet

honeyrun · Post by **honeyrun** » Mon May 15, 2006 7:38 am

I questioned this also and sent an email to AKC to get clarification since I also know where one club had to cancel their test due to this restriction.

Their answer was that you can do this if the two clubs write a letter and submit it with the application saying that it is ok with them.

Why isn't this bit of information in the rule book?

GSP4619 · Post by **GSP4619** » Mon May 15, 2006 10:08 am

Congrats!!!!

Coveyrise64 · Post by **Coveyrise64** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:20 pm

As I stated earlier there was a AKC Field Rep there both days. So I assume he and AKC both were aware there were two test going on at that time. Logistics plays a big part in this equation, even 20 miles apart would be difficult to coordinate. That being said, the two clubs do an excellent job in coordinating this thing. Three years ago the Britt club had difficulty filling a test and was on the verge of folding. The last two years both test have been full, drawing dogs from as far away as TX, NE, and CO. The weekend before I was at Joplin, 16 dogs the first day and 12 the next. Hard to cover expenses under those circumstances. With gas headed towards $3.00/gal I think it is a great idea. As Ayres' suspects, it probably won't be long until the AKC legislates this to death. At my age, all I need is a little more bureaucratic red tape in my life.

Coveyrise64

Post by **Ayres** » Mon May 15, 2006 6:57 pm

Hey, I hope it doesn't happen either! If you can get two sets of judges that score a dog in two separate runs, it shouldn't matter if they're on the same day I think. If you can do it on grounds right across the road from each other, it just saves that much in time and expenses. I just wish they'd get coordinated for a test like that in my neck of the woods.

birddog · Post by **birddog** » Mon May 15, 2006 8:06 pm

Ayres wrote: If you can get two sets of judges that score a dog in two separate runs, it shouldn't matter if they're on the same day I think. If you can do it on grounds right across the road from each other, it just saves that much in time and expenses.

The point here is it should be the same rule for all. AKC seems to make up the rules as we go along. Our club could not run our test on Sunday because of the AKC 100 mile rule. Now don't you think that rule should cover all arears of the country? As for the AKC rep. being present at the testing grounds. I would bet they or some are not even aware of such a rule and how would they know if you, or someone was entered in 2 tests the same day within a 100 mile distance of each other?

The reason for the 100 mile rule, as I understand it, was to give all clubs a fair chance to draw as many entries and run as many dogs as daylight would allow. AKC felt 2 test within 100 miles would split entries and neither club would get enough entries, even to the point of having to cancel a test for lack of entries.

What ever is decided should be the same for all. . JMO

Coveyrise64 · Post by **Coveyrise64** » Mon May 15, 2006 10:12 pm

Didn't like the fact the topic was drifting from the subject so I thought I would say the mods some time and move the discussion to a new location "Hunt Test Rules".

Coveyrise64