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No Women in the Field?

Post by SubMariner » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:01 am

Looking for women's field clothing is an exercise in futility because apparently, we don't do field work. Or hunt.

Lots of MEN'S clothing and accessories. All at fairly reasonable prices, BTW. But trying to find a new pair of field/briar pants has been a very frustrating experience. Very few choices; and what is available is expensive. :x

Take note manufacturers! WE BUY BUY STUFF!!!

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Post by diplomat019 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:18 am

did a quick search. found these, dont know if its helpful but worth a try. good luck!

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by jetjockey » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:22 pm

My wife is a walking billboard for the Eddie Bauer upland gear. She loves it.

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by SubMariner » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:37 pm

No women's briar/field pants. The only thing they show are "tweed beaks" whatever those are.
One pair of briar/field pants. As opposed to about 7 different ones for men.

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by SubMariner » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:38 pm

One pair of women's field/briar pants -- $150!!!
No briar pants. A few camo pairs.

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by SubMariner » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:43 pm

jetjockey wrote:My wife is a walking billboard for the Eddie Bauer upland gear. She loves it.

http://www.eddiebauer.com/browse/huntin ... sPage=GNAV
A single pair of women's briar/field pants -- $130.

And places like Kevins and or Staffords are even more outrageously priced.

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by jetjockey » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:47 pm

How much did you expect to pay? That's what we pay as well for decent pants. If you want to go cheaper, get chaps. But whatever you get, remember, you get what you pay for. High quality and cheap don't belong in the same sentence, especially in upland gear.

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Re: No Women in the Field?

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jetjockey wrote:How much did you expect to pay? That's what we pay as well for decent pants. If you want to go cheaper, get chaps. But whatever you get, remember, you get what you pay for. High quality and cheap don't belong in the same sentence, especially in upland gear.

Elitist? My columbia pants were like $30 at the columbia outlet store and work great for me. Wore them chasing sage and blue grouse in Colorado last month. If I'm in stuff that is so thick that these $30 pants won't do the job, then my dogs probably shouldn't be in it anyway. $150 is crazy.


Wife has these and they work good.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabelas- ... 692&rid=20

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by Petra » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:39 pm

There are some on e bay, mine that are jeans and briar cloth are not made anymore, I will have to wear my chaps (filson has a good price and cut for women)
more. Good luck. Let us know if you find a good company and price.

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Post by fuzznut » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:21 pm

find the same deal at World Wide Sportsman stores. A thousand square ft for mens stuff, at 30 for women's. And then most of it cute type of clothes, not hard working types of things. Columbia has even turned into a cutsey clothing company for woman....

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by orbirdhunter » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:50 pm

I would check ebay for She Safari upland pants...My wife has a pair and she really likes them. she also has some cabelas brand one's but she wears the she safari one's most of the time when she goes.
After that, obviously there are some choices in different price brackets...But obviously not many compared to men's pants because women don't buy upland pants..so why make them.
I know that I ran into a she safari rep not too long ago and she told me they were discontinuing the upland series because of lack of sales...Women seem to dig camo right now but not "upland" type gear...

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by Stoneface » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:02 pm

SubMariner, I do internet research for a living. If someone in my company is looking for information on a product or trying to find something, they pass it to me and I get the information. Let me know specifically what you're looking for (including sizes, color preferences if you have any, pricing, etc.) and I'll see if I can't find something for you. I try not to frequent this board too much, so you may be better dropping me a line on Facebook. My name's Rowdy Harris and I'm the only one wearing a blaze jacket with a birddog in front of me.

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by Fun dog » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:44 pm

Now try being a tall woman and finding outdoor clothing.

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by DonF » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:08 pm

You might try Bi Mart, I get all mu hunting clothes there! But then I hunt in jeans, a pocket T and if it's cold an insulated flannel shirt. I think Holly, Gertie get's a bunch of her stuff from Filson.

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by jetjockey » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:20 pm

cbump wrote:
jetjockey wrote:How much did you expect to pay? That's what we pay as well for decent pants. If you want to go cheaper, get chaps. But whatever you get, remember, you get what you pay for. High quality and cheap don't belong in the same sentence, especially in upland gear.

Elitist? My columbia pants were like $30 at the columbia outlet store and work great for me. Wore them chasing sage and blue grouse in Colorado last month. If I'm in stuff that is so thick that these $30 pants won't do the job, then my dogs probably shouldn't be in it anyway. $150 is crazy.


Wife has these and they work good.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabelas- ... 692&rid=20

Elitist? Hardly. I don't have the money to replace gear that falls apart. I have found over the years that it's much cheaper to buy the best you can once, then cheap gear that falls apart and has to be replaced. $150 is not expensive for pants like Filsons that last 10-20 years under hard use. For women, you need a quality fit, functionality, and last but not least, they must look decent doing it. Otherwise, very few of them will want to go hunting with us. Buying cheap pants that don't fit and don't last makes no sense if the women don't want to go hunting with us because they aren't comfortable. Then you've just wasted more money.

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by KwikIrish » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:39 am

orbirdhunter wrote:I would check ebay for She Safari upland pants...My wife has a pair and she really likes them. she also has some cabelas brand one's but she wears the she safari one's most of the time when she goes.
After that, obviously there are some choices in different price brackets...But obviously not many compared to men's pants because women don't buy upland pants..so why make them.
I know that I ran into a she safari rep not too long ago and she told me they were discontinuing the upland series because of lack of sales...Women seem to dig camo right now but not "upland" type gear...
She safari is crap. Didn't last me a whole season without beginning to disinigrate at the seams on the inside by my calves and the base. And the vest didn't last 2 season. Never again.

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by High Voltage » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:17 am

Something must be wrong with me. I get most of my stuff from Wal-Mart on clearance. Luckily I can wear boys XL or mens small and they are not big movers...I don't care how it looks as long as it fits.

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by ezzy333 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:34 pm

Naturally their is less women's hunting clothing since there are very few women hunters. But that is changing and the supply will soon catch up. You girls will have to remember you are the very first women hunter generation and will be the trend setter for generations to come if we can save something to hunt. Be patient while making your wishes heard. The girls of the future are counting on you.

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by SubMariner » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:52 pm

jetjockey wrote:
cbump wrote:
jetjockey wrote:How much did you expect to pay? That's what we pay as well for decent pants. If you want to go cheaper, get chaps. But whatever you get, remember, you get what you pay for. High quality and cheap don't belong in the same sentence, especially in upland gear.

Elitist? My columbia pants were like $30 at the columbia outlet store and work great for me. Wore them chasing sage and blue grouse in Colorado last month. If I'm in stuff that is so thick that these $30 pants won't do the job, then my dogs probably shouldn't be in it anyway. $150 is crazy.


Wife has these and they work good.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabelas- ... 692&rid=20

Elitist? Hardly. I don't have the money to replace gear that falls apart. I have found over the years that it's much cheaper to buy the best you can once, then cheap gear that falls apart and has to be replaced. $150 is not expensive for pants like Filsons that last 10-20 years under hard use. For women, you need a quality fit, functionality, and last but not least, they must look decent doing it. Otherwise, very few of them will want to go hunting with us. Buying cheap pants that don't fit and don't last makes no sense if the women don't want to go hunting with us because they aren't comfortable. Then you've just wasted more money.
Yes, it IS elitist. And a little condescending. There are literally HUNDREDS of men's pants online at at fraction of the pricing that most of the women's versions (when you can find them) sell for. Why? Because MEN wouldn't dream of buying pants at those prices!

Obviously, there's a double standard at play. It's the same thing when I get my cotton shirts laundered vs my husband's. His are lower priced (unless I complain & then I get comparable cost). I have short hair, but I get charged $39 for a haircut; his is $20. The list goes on...

Once upon a time the scuba industry had a similar notion: make it "smaller", "pink", add $30 and voila -- a woman's buoyancy compensator. Nevermind that women are DEFINITELY shaped differently than men, so there wasn't a proper fit. Or that we wanted performance every bit as good as what the guys had. Nope. It was "girly" and "pink" and "perfect" (according to the dive industry).

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Post by Gertie » Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:45 pm

I've had a lot of luck buying men's pants on sale. Generally they are the smaller sizes that didn't sell as well and they usually fit alright (not perfect but functional and comfortable so what the heck). Anyway, it'd be nice if there were more options but it's not a fashion show so whatever. Also, interestingly enough, Filson tried to do a line of women's clothes and there wasn't enough interest so they discontinued it. Bummer because they had good stuff.

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Post by SubMariner » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:30 pm

Gertie wrote:I've had a lot of luck buying men's pants on sale. Generally they are the smaller sizes that didn't sell as well and they usually fit alright (not perfect but functional and comfortable so what the heck). Anyway, it'd be nice if there were more options but it's not a fashion show so whatever. Also, interestingly enough, Filson tried to do a line of women's clothes and there wasn't enough interest so they discontinued it. Bummer because they had good stuff.
I'm petite, and DEFINITELY "woman shaped", so men's pants have never been an option.

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by welsh » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:34 am

That women's stuff is more expensive than comparable products for men is well documented and certainly not restricted to hunting duds. As for the notion that women won't hunt unless they can look cute doing it, 1970 advises you to cease and desist your infringement of its intellectual property. Perhaps we can advise the OP not to worry her pretty little head, while we're at it?

You'd think there'd be money to be made making practical hunting clothing for women that isn't adorned with silly pink trim. But surfing through the cable channels reminds you that you only make money off stuff you can market with attractive people on TV.

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Post by jetjockey » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:24 am

The simple fact is that while some women hunt, there is not enough draw for company's to market women's specific upland clothing. Filson tried it, and it didn't work. She Safari tried it, and couldn't make it work. There are very few women's upland clothes because there are very few women who hunt upland birds. Until recently, there has never been shotguns marketed specifically for women either. It's not elitist to suggest buying the best clothes you can possibly afford, because they will last longer. Manufactures have one of two choices. Make money by selling lots of cheap clothes at cheaper prices, or fewer high quality clothes at higher prices. Because of the lack of demand, women's upland manufactures seem to market higher quality clothing at higher prices. As men, we do have the cheaper options, becAuse there are probably 10-15 times as many men upland hunters then women. But I stand by my statement that cheaper is not always better. Again, that's not elitist. There are some very good high quality options for women's upland clothing that are cut correctly, functional, and last but not least, look good as well. Looking good may not be important to some women, but it is to a lot of them. I know, I'm surrounded by them! ;-)

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by Sharon » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:11 pm

All women's clothing cost more than men's.

I came from a poor family, you wore what you had. Now I have money and I haven't changed my outlook on shopping. Rarely shop for clothes; I wear what I have in the bush/woods.

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Post by cjhills » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:07 pm

Sharon wrote:All women's clothing cost more than men's.

I came from a poor family, you wore what you had. Now I have money and I haven't changed my outlook on shopping. Rarely shop for clothes; I wear what I have in the bush/woods.
I have been wondering since this post started why you need special clothes in the field. I have pretty much wore blue jeans or camo and most women I know do the same. Chaps in the brush, A orange vest if it is warm or a coat if it is cold. Long johns if it is really cold. Don't see a reason for special clothes. Women look pretty good in Levis and vests. Hunting coats pretty much have a size for everybody............Cj

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Post by Tooling » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:57 pm

We've been on the search as well - tough to find womens clothing for sure.

I just wear unlined Carhartts & opted to get swmbo a pair too. They're great for layering, don't pick up burrs, protect from thorns, and they're really durable - they double as good work pants too while only getting more comfortable over time.

Also have to side w/jetjockey on this one - he's just stating facts and it shouldn't ruffle any feathers.

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Post by Petra » Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:38 am

https://www.uglydoghunting.com/sale_clothing.php They have a few sizes left for sale in women's brush pants, dogs unlimited has the same price on women's Filson chaps that I paid 7 years ago, my jacket is LL bean and vest is columbia, both for women and not more expensive than the mens. They are all cut for women. I did not like any of these in mens cut for me, you need to be able to swing your gun so need a good fit especially in the jacket, you should only have to buy these once, unless you are so lucky to be able to go hunting a lot or they kiss barb wire. The Carhartt pants look great and with chaps would do well in tough country, also a Carhartt specialist was ready to chat with me. But I recommend to find the most comfortable well made waterproof boots you can find even a custom made insole, a lot of hours and miles will be in those. I found a great pair of WOMENS boots redwings on e bay that I put my custom soles in and I will wear them out because they are so comfortable and sturdy that I wear them doing almost everything.

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Post by SubMariner » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:59 am

cjhills wrote:
Sharon wrote:All women's clothing cost more than men's.

I came from a poor family, you wore what you had. Now I have money and I haven't changed my outlook on shopping. Rarely shop for clothes; I wear what I have in the bush/woods.
I have been wondering since this post started why you need special clothes in the field. I have pretty much wore blue jeans or camo and most women I know do the same. Chaps in the brush, A orange vest if it is warm or a coat if it is cold. Long johns if it is really cold. Don't see a reason for special clothes. Women look pretty good in Levis and vests. Hunting coats pretty much have a size for everybody............Cj
I could care less about "pretty". But if the pants don't FIT (as in designed for women) then they are uncomfortable. I don't mind having to hem them (they are always too long) but if you have to spend as much getting them taken in (or whatever) as you did buying them, what's the point?

Ontario brush/bush is not the same as FL. The undergrowth here is not just bushes & trees; it's nasty thorns, briers, and sand spurs that leave your legs shredded unless you are protected. Jeans are useless as are some makes of chaps. Colder weather helps "knock it down" a bit, but in a lot of areas it's still like running a gauntlet of small sharp knives all year round.

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Post by SubMariner » Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:04 am

Petra wrote:https://www.uglydoghunting.com/sale_clothing.php They have a few sizes left for sale in women's brush pants, dogs unlimited has the same price on women's Filson chaps that I paid 7 years ago, my jacket is LL bean and vest is columbia, both for women and not more expensive than the mens. They are all cut for women. I did not like any of these in mens cut for me, you need to be able to swing your gun so need a good fit especially in the jacket, you should only have to buy these once, unless you are so lucky to be able to go hunting a lot or they kiss barb wire. The Carhartt pants look great and with chaps would do well in tough country, also a Carhartt specialist was ready to chat with me. But I recommend to find the most comfortable well made waterproof boots you can find even a custom made insole, a lot of hours and miles will be in those. I found a great pair of WOMENS boots redwings on e bay that I put my custom soles in and I will wear them out because they are so comfortable and sturdy that I wear them doing almost everything.
I had been on Ugly dog, but not seen some of these. Thanks!

In the wet season, we're all pretty much confined to Muck boots or similar: the water is high & there is lots of it. I've found a pair women's Chore Mucks that work really well.

Now that it's drier I wear my ankle-high Lowas, which are a very sturdy lighter hiking boot. This is only the 2nd pair I've had in 10 years, they wear that well.

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Re: No Women in the Field?

Post by Dakota Creek » Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:08 am

Prois also makes a woman's brush pant.

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