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Post by Redneck » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:42 am

Anyone on here interested in the National Championship ? If so, what dogs do you favor? Stallion is the hottest right now, but you can never count out In The Shadow. I think a dark horse could be Erin's Kentucky Gambler. You never know cuz the weather can play such a big role.

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Post by ACooper » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:12 am

A couple of tragedies over the last 10-12 months make the field look different.

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Re: National Championship

Post by rinker » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:21 am

I am a fan of Keith Wright's dogs.

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Re: National Championship

Post by Cajun Casey » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:38 am

We are pulling for Miller's Happy Jack and White Dollar. GO, TEAM CROSS COUNTRY!

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Re: National Championship

Post by Allin13 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:50 am

Keith scratched this year.

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Re: National Championship

Post by sckwest1 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:09 pm

I am pulling for Erin's Whiskey River and Erin's Kentucky Gambler. Good luck Sean and Shaun!! SCK

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Re: National Championship

Post by SCT » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:38 pm

Cajun Casey wrote:We are pulling for Miller's Happy Jack and White Dollar. GO, TEAM CROSS COUNTRY!
I'm good with these two, too.

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Re: National Championship

Post by nightmaregundog » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:56 pm

White dollar and snowwatch

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Re: National Championship

Post by Redneck » Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:53 pm

Cajun Casey wrote:We are pulling for Miller's Happy Jack and White Dollar. GO, TEAM CROSS COUNTRY!

They've got Prairieland Pride nominated also. I don't think Anderson has ever won the national.

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Re: National Championship

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Re: National Championship
by Allin13 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:50 am
Keith scratched this year.
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The Ames web site says he has 4 dogs that he owns or co-owns nominated. Did he scratch all 4 of them?

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Re: National Championship

Post by Wildweeds » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:08 pm

The setters don't stand a chance,that's my prediction

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Re: National Championship

Post by Cajun Casey » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:18 pm

Redneck wrote:
Cajun Casey wrote:We are pulling for Miller's Happy Jack and White Dollar. GO, TEAM CROSS COUNTRY!

They've got Prairieland Pride nominated also. I don't think Anderson has ever won the national.
Correct. He has had a good year and hopefully will finish strong.

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Re: National Championship

Post by CHJIII » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:20 pm

I'm pulling for the GSP's....HeeHee....sorry I had too

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Re: National Championship

Post by Redneck » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:32 pm

CHJIII wrote:I'm pulling for the GSP's....HeeHee....sorry I had too

I think it would be cool if a GSP qualified !

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Re: National Championship

Post by Winchey » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:48 pm

One of the setters. It's too bad about Rapidan. Ross's Jack if it is gonna be a pointer.

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Re: National Championship

Post by Saddle » Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:24 pm

Ted (Prairieland Pride) has finished the 3 hours I think 3 years in a row now. Randy likes Jack's chances. I like Top (white dollar) myself he's a youngster though.

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Re: National Championship

Post by SCT » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:19 pm

Actually, I'm changing my vote to Prairieland Pride. He's got the experience, anyone know how old he is?

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Re: National Championship

Post by Allin13 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:28 pm

rinker, it looks like he will be there. maybe i got my days mixed up. I guess that would be like a team not going to the super bowl!

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Re: National Championship

Post by ymepointer » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:32 pm

Think tommy davis is running Stalion. He could walk away with it.

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Re: National Championship

Post by jimssetters » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:59 pm

Is there a list of the dogs that made it? Mainly the Setters is what i am interested in.

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Re: National Championship

Post by Redneck » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:07 pm

jimssetters wrote:Is there a list of the dogs that made it? Mainly the Setters is what i am interested in.

I believe there are 3 setters nominated. You can check the Ames Plantation website to be sure.

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Post by Luminary Setters » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:47 pm

Setters: Highground Jax, Shadow Oak Bo, Thunderbird Jaxinabox

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Post by tn red » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:53 pm

ymepointer wrote:Think tommy davis is running Stalion. He could walk away with it.

Stalion or Dialin In

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Re: National Championship

Post by dead mike » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:06 pm

Browntown Johnny Reb is my dark horse pic
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Knight Rider

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here it is!!!!!!!!

Post by dead mike » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:28 pm

Marques Lucky Strike-Lefty Henry
Miller's Dialing In -Gary Lester
2Thunderbird Jaxinabox -Travis Gelhaus
House s Ring Of Fire -Ike Todd
3Miller's Happy Jack -Randy Anderson
Lester's Snowatch-Gary Lester
4 Erin's Kentucky Gambler -Luke Eisenhart
House's River Fever -Billy Wayne Morton
5Shadow Oak Bo - Robin Gates
Rivererton's Funseek'n Scooter -Rich Robertson
6White Dollar -Randy Anderson
Browntown Johnny Reb -Luke Eisenhart
7L.J.Confidential- Steve Hurdle
Phillp's Time Line -Colvin Davis
8Lester's Tom Cruise -Andy Daugherty
Touch's Adam County -Ike Todd
9Whippoorwill Wild Speck -Larry Huffman
Youngstown Thrillseeker -Rich Robertson
10Conner's E Z Button -Steve Hurdle
Clovis Point Chism -Rick Furney
11Phillips White Twist -Robin Gates
Stallion -Tommy Davis
12 Touch's Knight Rider -Ike Todd
Whippoorwill Blue Blood -Larry Huffman
13 Raelyn's Skyy -Andy Daugherty
In The Shadow -Robin Gates
14 Lester's Knockout -Tommy Liesfeld
Erin's Whiskey River-Sean Derrig
15 Highground Jax Jabba -Lori Steinshouer
White's Solid Reward -Lefty Henry
16 Prairieland Pride -Randy Anderson
Conecuh Station's Black Rock -Steve Hurdle
17 Quester -Ray Warren
Barshoe Osama Ben -Allen Vincent
18 House's Yellow Jacket -Steve Hurdle
Coldwater Warrior -Weldon Bennett
19 Lester's Storm -Lee Phillips
Caladen's Rail Hawk -Fred Corder
20 Whippoorwill Radiance -Larry Huffmancocklebur
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Re: National Championship

Post by Saddle » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:33 pm

Ted is 8 now I believe.

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Re: National Championship

Post by TChism » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:16 pm

Rootin for Thunderbird Jaxinabox and Rivertons Funseekin Scooter

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Post by Gertie » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:03 am

Crossing my fingers for a something with a pretty tail.

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Re: National Championship

Post by SCT » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:43 am

Has there been many 8 year olds or older win the National?? I would think 5-7 years old would be optimal.

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Post by PntrRookie » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:55 am

Any of these dogs can win it. A lot depends on your draw, weather, am vs. pm, birds moving, etc. I am pulling for a Phillips White Line Kennel bred dog to win it...one of these...

Miller's Dialing In - Gary Lester
Phillip's Time Line - Colvin Davis
Phillip's White Twist - Robin Gates

My dark horse would also be BJR or ANY dog Ike is running or a shag (for historical purposes), or... :) There are SO many good handlers/owners and dogs, it is tough to pick. I am rooting for one of Nathan's dogs.

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Re: National Championship

Post by rockyridge kennels » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:10 pm

sckwest1 wrote:I am pulling for Erin's Whiskey River and Erin's Kentucky Gambler. Good luck Sean and Shaun!! SCK
Thanks!
I wish I could go watch them both run (gotta work to pay for the hobby)Duke and Will are both ready.

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Re: National Championship

Post by codym » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:10 pm

I will be rooting for the black hawk offspring.

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Re: National Championship

Post by Redneck » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:11 pm

SCT wrote:Has there been many 8 year olds or older win the National?? I would think 5-7 years old would be optimal.
I believe Whipporwill Rebel was 10 when he won for the second time.

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Re: National Championship

Post by Redneck » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:39 am

Third brace looks interesting. Millers Happy Jack braced against his old handler , Gary Lester. Wonder how this will affect the dog?

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Re: National Championship

Post by Cajun Casey » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:13 pm

First brace had one around and one picked up.

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Re: National Championship

Post by Redneck » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:11 pm

Millers Dialing In is setting the pace with 7 finds and finished the 3 hours.

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Re: National Championship

Post by Wildweeds » Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:03 pm

First runoff in second,setter prediction #1 down

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Re: National Championship

Post by Redneck » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:35 am

Interesting brace this am......not only is Lester running his best dog, against one of his former dogs, but he's also got to think about protecting his" lead".....

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Re: National Championship

Post by Redneck » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:06 pm

Redneck wrote:Interesting brace this am......not only is Lester running his best dog, against one of his former dogs, but he's also got to think about protecting his" lead".....
Turned out to be pretty uneventful........next setter up tomorrow

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Re: National Championship

Post by Redneck » Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:38 pm

Looks like the setter people may have something to cheer about.....

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Re: National Championship

Post by Redneck » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:33 am

Redneck wrote:Looks like the setter people may have something to cheer about.....
The dog didn't look that good in some of the pics.......also, rumor has it that some of those reported backs were actually divided finds at which Gates fired his gun.......I wasn't there and don't know what actually happened, but I do know as both a handler and judge, that its hard to win in a cobbled up brace.......anybody who actually rode the brace please respond with some info......it may be too early to pop the cork setter guys

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Re: National Championship

Post by Cajun Casey » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:45 pm

No one on the board today.

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Re: National Championship

Post by Gertie » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:05 pm

They're all out buying their sweeties dinner :lol:

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Re: National Championship

Post by dead mike » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:16 pm

Previously i thought the setter had set the bar, apparently i was wrong. Dialing In maybe?...

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Re: National Championship

Post by hill » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:29 pm

I'm noticing that several dogs are being picked up with far less than 3 hours. Some of them are being picked up following a UP, or that is how it seems just reading the reports. Is an UP so detrimental to the score that it is grounds to pick up the dog? What are some other common reasons for a handler to pick up his dog before the 3 hours are up? I assume that these dogs have to be top athletes to make it this far and are fully capable of running a three hour trial, even though I realize this is a very long time for a dog to hunt "all out" at this level. I don't follow many trials and don't know much about them but this one has captured my short attention span and brought about some questions.

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Re: National Championship

Post by Saddle » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:32 pm

I have some buddies there and they are all telling me that the River Fever bitch run by Billy Wayne Morton was by far the best on the ground. They say it wasn't even close. They're convinced the setter and Dialing in aren't in the mix.

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Re: National Championship

Post by Cajun Casey » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:12 pm

One around today, last year's champion.

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Post by slistoe » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:17 pm

hill wrote:I'm noticing that several dogs are being picked up with far less than 3 hours. Some of them are being picked up following a UP, or that is how it seems just reading the reports. Is an UP so detrimental to the score that it is grounds to pick up the dog? What are some other common reasons for a handler to pick up his dog before the 3 hours are up? I assume that these dogs have to be top athletes to make it this far and are fully capable of running a three hour trial, even though I realize this is a very long time for a dog to hunt "all out" at this level. I don't follow many trials and don't know much about them but this one has captured my short attention span and brought about some questions.
Most folks are of the general opinion that any dog has only a certain number of 3 hour heats in them - it is that telling on them physically. No one is there simply to run their dog into the ground just to prove the dog can do it - they are there to win, and if you aren't obviously beating the dogs that have gone before you there is little point to continue to run the dog down. If the "winning" dogs have seven finds, you are an hour and a half in and your first card is an UP there isn't much you are going to do in the next hour and a half to beat the competition.

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Re: National Championship

Post by Chukar12 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:22 pm

And its courtesy to the judges...as a gentlemen of those very grounds told me privately during one of his recent judging assignments...(please read this in Tennessee dialect) Joe, this is hurtin mah eyes

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Re: National Championship

Post by hill » Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:31 pm

Thanks for clearing that up. Both points make sense.

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