Some of the Braccos seen in North America are from show lines and nothing to really write home about. Others are from good hunting lines and can be very good workers. Sometimes though, the breeder or handler or owner is not quite familiar with the hunting style of the breed and does not train for or encourage the kind of trot that the hard core field trial guys in Italy do. I'n glad you got to see a good one doing what it is bred to do.phermes1 wrote:I've seen one of these run in JH at a hunt test. It was interesting to watch. Rhythmic trot is accurate. I didn't think it had the same ground speed that we're used to out of the other pointing breeds, but it still covered a lot of ground. Nice dog.
You will find the Italian breeders breed for dual champions. That is just the culture, form and function are equally important.chiendog wrote:2500 bucks seems very steep for a Bracco..for any pointing dog actually. If I were looking for one, I would insist it come from the best field trial stock in Italy. Period. And I have never heard of any of those guys charging that kind of coin for a pup..even out of the best trial dogs out there. I think there are some from solid Italian field lines in the US, but like every other breed, if you want a hunting dog, find a hunting breeder...a hard core hunting breeder with proven stock and lots of FCH's in the dogs' pedigree. Avoid show stuff like the freakin plague.
Yes that is of course the official line. And most Italian breeders do tend to pay more attention to both from and function than we do over here. And they do succeed in developing some "dual champion" dogs. However in reality, Italian breeders tend to lean one way or the other and sort of pay lip service to the other side. I've been to Italy several times and am going back in November. I've seen field-bred Bracchi and show-bred Bracchi. And while the differences in the two types are nowhere near as big as they are between field and show lines of say American bred Setters or Springers, they are still there and from what I understand growing.You will find the Italian breeders breed for dual champions. That is just the culture, form and function are equally important.
Yes there is. I actually used one of his really stunning pictures of his dogs in my book. Ralph Minnitte is his name and he seems like a great guy with good dogs.Ahumphers91a wrote:I thought there was a breeder in Nevada
And if you know the right people, you can usually get very well bred pups for cheap if not free.tommyboy72 wrote:My wife wants one but at $2500 for a pup and a 2 year waiting list it ain't gonna happen. Especially since I am a devoted pointer man and can get 5-10 Pointers out of excellent bloodlines for that kind of money, at least where I live.
jcorcoran wrote:There is also a small breeder in Southern California, http://www.braccoitalianodogs.com/
She is very active in the San Diego NAVHDA. I have seen her dogs in the field at training days, they look goofy, but they hunt and move pretty well.
Cool painting! And it has an interesting story*. La Madonna del beccaccino (our lady of the snipe) was painted in "the first half of the last century" (ie: early to mid 1900s). It was a commissioned piece that was supposed to go to a church in Argentina but "for political reasons" it never made it across the Atlantic. So it was acquired by the "Club del Beccaccino" (snipe hunters club), unveiled at the annual hunter's festival and then transferred to the Casoni Barroni church where is remains today!
Ok, here goes. Put your language learnin hat on.crackerd wrote:So timberdoodles are known as beccaccini on the Boot?
chiendog wrote:jcorcoran wrote:There is also a small breeder in Southern California, http://www.braccoitalianodogs.com/
She is very active in the San Diego NAVHDA. I have seen her dogs in the field at training days, they look goofy, but they hunt and move pretty well.
That is Ericka Dennis I believe. I interviewed her for my book, very nice lady with very nice dogs!!
