ezzy333 wrote:Cajun Casey wrote:The orange should appear in a distinct pattern, like the markings on a black and tan Doberman, but usually not that much orange. It is a rust color. It is not something that most people want to see. The dog is registered as either black or liver. I believe it is a recessive, but I'd have to look it up. Pointers could come by it honestly, from foxhound influence back over a hundred years. Some attribute it to more recent and less honest introduction of setter blood.
I've never seen a black tri pointer, but have seen ghost tan on the faces of a couple of livers, brow spots and along the cheeks.
There is no written standard for pointers so there is no distinct pattern it should appear in. As already said it has been around for a long time.
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I would think the AKC standard does apply to FDSB Pointers, at least in principle. Early on there were bench shows as part of field trials, including the first one in the US in1873 in Memphis. As late as the 30's Mary Montrose took Reserve Bitch at the Westminster Show after a train ride following one of her NC wins. She was a true Dual Champion.