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2010 National Bird Dog Championship

Post by gunner » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:51 am

A daily synopsis of the Championship can be found online at the Ames Plantation site.
http://www.amesplantation.org/field-tri ... nopsis.asp


Timely articles on the venue from the Memphis Commercial Appeal newspaper online.
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/20 ... us-coveys/

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Re: 2010 National Bird Dog Championship

Post by lvrgsp » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:00 am

Thanks for the links Bill...

Tommy picked Poison up, Snowatch is still down, but not making to much money.....as of 20 minutes ago.

Just thought some might like the update....

Edit:.........Snowatch picked up around the 2hr mark..

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Post by Mr. Crappie » Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:58 pm

Was is pretty tough for them because of the weather/snow? I was sure hoping Snowatch would make a better run....

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Post by lvrgsp » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:10 pm

Mr. Crappie wrote:Was is pretty tough for them because of the weather/snow? I was sure hoping Snowatch would make a better run....
Yes, that is my understanding....

as an update......
Thunder House picked up...
South's Late Night...3 finds and a back...finished the 3 hours......

FYI......

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Post by lvrgsp » Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:32 pm

Hytest Sky Hawk picked up.......
Phantoms Last Dime...2 finds then lost.....

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Re: 2010 National Bird Dog Championship

Post by BrettBryan » Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:06 pm

Chip,

I didn't think they would run them this a.m. frozen snow/ice and ground has to be hard on an animal for that long a period.

Did you see the picture of South's Late Night after pick up yesterday? His tail was basically a big icicle. Poor fellow.
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Re: 2010 National Bird Dog Championship

Post by DGFavor » Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:22 pm

Did you see the picture of South's Late Night after pick up yesterday? His tail was basically a big icicle. Poor fellow.
Well there's a simple solution to prevent that problem... :wink: :lol:

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Post by lvrgsp » Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:04 pm

BrettBryan wrote:Chip,

I didn't think they would run them this a.m. frozen snow/ice and ground has to be hard on an animal for that long a period.

Did you see the picture of South's Late Night after pick up yesterday? His tail was basically a big icicle. Poor fellow.
Yes I saw that pic as well, tough going on dogs, horses, and handlers from what I am hearing. I have a good buddy down there this week he sends me the latest news...From what he tells me Late Night had one helluva display in some very tough conditions.

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Post by BrettBryan » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:22 pm

Chip,

I'm going up to the bird dog museum tomorrow night for a fish fry. I hope to meet some folks up there. I think Purina is sponsering it.

I am going to try to go ride this coming Monday and Tuesday if i can swing it.

Doug,

Ha! I hear ya! That would definitely solve the problem :lol:
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Post by dudleysmith » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:34 pm

Both dogs picked up this afternoon.

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Post by Vonrommel » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:31 pm

BrettBryan, A friend and I will be down there tomorrow through Saturday evening. I'll be at the fish-fry and riding the Friday and Saturday morning braces. Hollar at me, I'll be the big fat guy with black goatee. :D

BrettBryan wrote:Chip,

I'm going up to the bird dog museum tomorrow night for a fish fry. I hope to meet some folks up there. I think Purina is sponsering it.

I am going to try to go ride this coming Monday and Tuesday if i can swing it.

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Ha! I hear ya! That would definitely solve the problem :lol:

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Post by BrettBryan » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:01 am

Jeff,

Will do! I'll be the tall slim fellow with the Fu Manchu :D I'll be there with my wife, she has blond hair.
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Cross post...This just in...Not official, but I heard White Powder Pete had 7 finds and a good race.

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Cross post...Both dogs finished the three hours. Sean's young dog had, I believe, 3 or 4 finds. White Powder Pete had 7 dug up finds. The ground is still solid ice and the dog's feet were cut up and bleeding but he never quit and finished far to the front on a find. He's a heck of a great all-age bird dog.

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Post by lvrgsp » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:44 pm

Just got word that In The Shadow had 10 finds this afternoon. WOW!!!!

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Post by GrayDawg » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:30 pm

lvrgsp wrote:Just got word that In The Shadow had 10 finds this afternoon. WOW!!!!
That's what I wanted to hear !! I saw Joe Shadow run twice- both times are etched in my memory that I'll take to my grave.
I was hoping Team Gates would have a dog that put down a good course......... 10 finds ?!?!? Holy Moly............

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Re: 2010 National Bird Dog Championship

Post by SCKWEST » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:40 pm

how is in the shadow bred. i figured by his name that he was a joe's shadow (go boy dog) does anyone know who his sire and dam are? thanks, sckwest

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Common Happy Jack :!: :!: :!: :lol:
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Post by birddog1968 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:09 pm

lvrgsp wrote:Just got word that In The Shadow had 10 finds this afternoon. WOW!!!!

Now thats what I'm talkin bout !!!!!!
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Post by Ron R » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:21 pm

PntrRookie wrote:White Powder Pete had 7 dug up finds. The ground is still solid ice and the dog's feet were cut up and bleeding but he never quit and finished far to the front on a find. He's a heck of a great all-age bird dog.
White Powder Pete may very well still be the dog to beat.

PntrRokie please keep thes reports coming. :D

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Ron R wrote:
White Powder Pete may very well still be the dog to beat.

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Post by BrettBryan » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:24 am

SCKWEST,

I could be wrong about this, but i dont' think he's a Joe Shadow bred dog. I think i remember someone telling me they don't know why they named the dog In the Shadow, because he wasn't a Joe Shadow bred dog.

Jeff,

I was up at the fish fry last night at the Bird dog museum. I got there about 6:30 and by 8:00pm, we were the last ones there :o Sorry, i missed you. But, people left out of there quick. There was a lot of folks there when we got there, but they left pretty quickly.
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Post by PntrRookie » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:38 am

Ron, I will give ya what I know. There are only a few dogs that I have any "inside scoop" on. Roll White Twist :wink:
Neil wrote:That is not the word around the stables, but then they are almost always wrong. Neil
Neil, What do you know? There is a lot of time and dogs to go, so to guess anything now would be pure speculation. But 10 finds is tough to overcome. A couple years ago when Whipporwill Wild Agin won, that was not the "word around the stables" either...that is why this is fun (and nerve racking) to follow!

Brett, any talk on yesterday's runs?

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Post by lvrgsp » Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:03 am

In The Shadow I believe is out of Miller's White Powder x Doerr's Claire's Shadow, she by Joe Shadow and a Silverwood bitch......making him and Distant Shadow littermates.....that's what I was told anyways.......

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In the Shadow is a littermate to Distant Shadow...http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=2055

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PntrRookie wrote:In the Shadow is a littermate to Distant Shadow...http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=2055
That's a heck of a pedigree.............. Miller's all over the top side and Joe Shadow as the Grandsire on the bottom.
Talk about the best of both worlds !! :lol: :lol:

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Post by birddog1968 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:55 am

Ive been thinking of taking my hta/joe shadow female to a miller dog for awhile now.........

my decision just got easier 8)
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Post by BrettBryan » Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:06 am

I stand corrected. Someone told me he was Miller bred. I guess he is on the top, but bottom is Joe Shadow. Actually, a friend of mine has a littermate to those dogs(In the Shadow and Distant Shadow). My buddy, Blake Kukar own's a dog called Ben Adams who's bred exactly the same as those dogs.

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Brett, any talk on yesterday's runs?
I haven't really talked to many folks about the running. Doug Arthur didn't even ride when his two dogs ran because he was so disgusted with the ice/snow situation. I talked with Charlie Frank last night for a bit. I wouldn't ever ask him which dogs they were carrying to the end. I would never do that. He would never tell me anyhow, but i would never ask.

I did hear from a buddy that In the Shadow had a good go of it. But, he may be partial about the breeding. Did look like he found birds throughout the 3 hours though and i heard he had a nice forward ground race as well. I'd have to say he set the bar there.
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Re: 2010 National Bird Dog Championship

Post by Mr. Crappie » Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:07 am

Ron,
I'm right there with you, now that Snowatch is out. I'm hoping for a "Happy Jack Day"!!!! Not sure how he's been running lately, but know he's held his own earlier in the year...... At any rate, those "white dogs" are hard to beat!
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birddog1968 wrote:Ive been thinking of taking my hta/joe shadow female to a miller dog for awhile now...my decision just got easier 8)
Go right to the source...http://www.phillipswhiteline.com/stud%20dogs.html He has a great up-n-comer in Storm Line. New Derby Champion.

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Talked to Nathan again today... Apparently JIll's grand-daddy is putting on a show out there... and if I'm right Ellie's Daddy put on a heck of a derby show a couple weeks ago....

Nathan was pretty dang excited when I talked to him earlier today, sounds like all the hard work and customer relations are really starting to pay dividends... I would suggest Nathan Phillips to anyone who wants the most intelligent and athletic dog around...

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Re: 2010 National Bird Dog Championship

Post by vzkennels » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:39 pm

Kyle if your talking White Twist he was lost at 1:39.

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kylenicholas02 wrote:JIll's grand-daddy is putting on a show out there... and if I'm right Ellie's Daddy put on a heck of a derby show a couple weeks ago.
VZ I believe Kyle is referring to White Powder Pete (formerly Phillips Silver Legacy - Nathan bred) and the new Derby Champion Phillips Storm Line. Too bad for White Twist. I thought Robin may be able to pull it off with him.

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birddog1968 wrote:Ive been thinking of taking my hta/joe shadow female to a miller dog for awhile now.........

my decision just got easier 8)
My female is Joe Shadow grandsired on top breed to a Guard Rail X Miller breeding on bottom. She is the smartest dog I have ever owned. Bird desire through the roof and style to burn.

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PkerStr8Tail wrote:
birddog1968 wrote:Ive been thinking of taking my hta/joe shadow female to a miller dog for awhile now.........

my decision just got easier 8)
My female is Joe Shadow grandsired on top breed to a Guard Rail X Miller breeding on bottom. She is the smartest dog I have ever owned. Bird desire through the roof and style to burn.
Mine has a sliver of true spirit on top.....My other dog is Chief stuff and rain cloud on top, he's sharp as a whip.

Im still evaluating this gyp, but she's lookin good at this point.
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Re: 2010 National Bird Dog Championship

Post by Birddog3412 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:15 pm

I am pretty excited about tomarrow.. Elhew Sinbad. I have a female due in 3 weeks bred to a paternal brother (Island Grove Revenge). Both out of Ch Island Grove Brute. Hope he does good.

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Post by dudleysmith » Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:15 pm

Pride and Jettsun were picked up early is what i heard

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Post by Rich Heaton » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:06 pm

One thing I kinda found interesting is that the west coast dogs all drew out back to back. What were the odds of that.

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Post by lvrgsp » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:13 pm

Rich Heaton wrote:One thing I kinda found interesting is that the west coast dogs all drew out back to back. What were the odds of that.
Probably the same odds that Larry Huffman has 4 dogs in it and he drew the entire last week.. :wink:

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Post by glk7243 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:23 pm

Rich,
I'm pulling for Tuffy. Looks like the weather might be decent Monday. Good Luck.
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lvrgsp wrote:
Rich Heaton wrote:One thing I kinda found interesting is that the west coast dogs all drew out back to back. What were the odds of that.
Probably the same odds that Larry Huffman has 4 dogs in it and he drew the entire last week.. :wink:
ROFLMBO :lol:
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Sharon wrote:ROFLMBO
What does that mean :?:

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lvrgsp wrote:
Rich Heaton wrote:One thing I kinda found interesting is that the west coast dogs all drew out back to back. What were the odds of that.
Probably the same odds that Larry Huffman has 4 dogs in it and he drew the entire last week.. :wink:
Kinda of like the odds of Snowatch being able to repeat from the #1 draw

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Post by Vonrommel » Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:06 pm

Sorry we missed you too, we were there until they started puttin the beer up so we figured we had overran our invitation. I was roaming around the museum for the last hour or so. Good food and beverages!!!

We rode in the gallery for the morning braces Friday and Saturday and had a blast. We drove the roads and watched the action from multiple spots along the roads during the evening braces Thursday and Friday. Thursday was the day to ride it seems!!! Two great performances!!!

I was pulling for the shags, even though I like em all, but they didn't have too good of a day today. We just got home about 30 minutes ago so I gotta go unpack and get wound down.

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I could be wrong about this, but i dont' think he's a Joe Shadow bred dog. I think i remember someone telling me they don't know why they named the dog In the Shadow, because he wasn't a Joe Shadow bred dog.

Jeff,

I was up at the fish fry last night at the Bird dog museum. I got there about 6:30 and by 8:00pm, we were the last ones there :o Sorry, i missed you. But, people left out of there quick. There was a lot of folks there when we got there, but they left pretty quickly.

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Re: 2010 National Bird Dog Championship

Post by GrayDawg » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:37 pm

Any updates from this morining's brace? Looks like the weather
will slowly get better as the week goes on...........

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Ron R wrote:
Sharon wrote:ROFLMBO
What does that mean :?:

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GrayDawg wrote:Any updates from this morining's brace? Looks like the weather will slowly get better as the week goes on...........Rob
Morning brace cancelled due to snow and ice. Running to resume at 1:30 this afternoon.

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Post by Neil » Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:57 pm

This afternoon canceled also, we will see about tomorrow, but there is a good bit of snow on the ground. If they do you they will just be eliminating dogs like they did last Tuesday and Wednesday morning,

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Post by GrayDawg » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:27 pm

Neil wrote:This afternoon canceled also, we will see about tomorrow, but there is a good bit of snow on the ground. If they do you they will just be eliminating dogs like they did last Tuesday and Wednesday morning,

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Because the birds are all dug in too deep or 'cuz the conditions aren't condusive to a strong forward race? Or both?
I guess that's the luck of the draw........ just like last year's Champion drawing the 1st brace.........

Weds., Thurs., & Fri. this week look to be pretty darn good days though.

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Re: 2010 National Bird Dog Championship

Post by Neil » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:36 pm

Rob,

Quail are bad to run and flush wild in the snow and are about 3 times harder to find, and crusty snow is really tough on the dog's feet. Many of the dogs Tuesday and Wednesday morning were leaving bloody tracks. Plus snow will cake up on the dogs tail even worse than mud, it is like they are carrying an anchor.

They run tomorrow morning and I will bet money neither will be in contention.

I am sure they are concerned about gong into the 3rd week, and I understand, but it is just eliminating dogs that aren't given a chance to win.

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