Field trialers or hunters

[sureshotshane]

Hello, I was just interested in what most of you do with your dogs field trials, hunt test, hunt with them or both?

[wems2371]

Pups just turning a year, but we're in NAVHDA testing and hope to do Hunt Tests in the future.................but most importantly go out and shoot down a bunch of birds next season. Denise

Maybe that would make a good poll topic?

[sjohnny]

I think it might be fun to do Hunt Tests but all I'm going to do with him right now is hunt.

John

[sureshotshane]

I was looking into that NAVHDA too and it seems like alot of fun.

[vzkennels]

SSS,from what I have read you have no papers of any kind on your pup & that is where the problem comes in when you start thinking of Field Trials,Hunting Test,etc.

[sureshotshane]

thats true but That doesnt mean I can't get anymore dogs.

[wems2371]

You could still participate in NAVHDA training though. I like my club a lot, and they certainly didn't ask for a pedigree when I joined and testing is not a requirement. If a NAVHDA club had a mock test, prior to the real testing...................they might not even care if you participated in that either as it's not for a real score. Just would depend on the club.

I'm not knowledgeable about this, but what about the status AKC gives dog that have purebred characteristics but no pedigree. I can't remember what they call it, but I think they give you an I.D. number or something. Like I think you can take them into dog obedience...............does that not pass over to a hunt test? Just asking as I haven't a clue. Denise

[vzkennels]

I can see you are hooked already & your first pup is going to lead you astray.I'm not trying to discourage you in any way but just trying to show that this is what happens when you buy an un papered dog.The dog you have now could be the BEST DOG you ever own but you can't show him off in that way,doesn't make him any less of a dog,most times the money you save buying unpapered dogs come back to bite you in the butt & eliminates you from the competion part that you & your dog might really enjoy & excell at.

[sureshotshane]

Yeah, but I can show her off while hunting. and I think your right about the I.D. thing you cant really win but you can enjoy and have fun with other people who have the same interests.

[Sharon]

You can participate in Field Trials, just not under judgement. We have that off and on. Not everyone is into competition.

[Brittguy]

I think there there is a provision like Weims suggest, but I am not certain.
The question hunter or field trialer: I do both but more trial directed now. I think most field trialers are hunters then find trials.

[TrueBlu Shorthairs]

To answer your initial question, I will trial 20 days a year or so, hunt about 30, and run a few MH events. Owner of my company hunts with me, so I have unlimited days off, that involve beer and hunting that is.

[Elroy's Bandit]

I have hunted for years(30 years), and recently (last 3 years) got into the field trials.I am hooked and it is a lot of fun. I am looking at Hunt Tests this coming year as something you can do more readily with your dogs on foot as opposed to the expense and needed items like a horse etc. to run most trials. Not all but most. Good Luck.
Bill L.

[wems2371]

This is the link for the AKC page that covers Purebred Alternative Listing and what they can participate in.........including Hunt Tests. I didn't read the nitty gritty of it yet though. Denise

http://www.akc.org/reg/ilpex.cfm

[kninebirddog]

Yes you can get through AKc and ILP/PAL regstration needs a vet signature the dog appears to be a pure bred dog and that it is also spayed or neutered

then you can do hunt tests and obeidience

www.akc.org you can find more info there

[ymepointer]

I have been bird hunting for 33 years now and that is my first love, however, I have been to some of the more popular trial types, I see them as sort of extending the hunting season. Both are fun but Hunting wins out every time with me.

[Karen]

SSS,from what I have read you have no papers of any kind on your pup & that is where the problem comes in when you start thinking of Field Trials,Hunting Test,etc.

AKC offers an Indefinite Listing Privilege (ILP) registration that enables pure bred, otherwise unregistered dogs to compete in activities where titles go AFTER the name (hunt tests, obedience, rally, agility). You need to submit a picture, your vet has to sign that the dog is altered, and last I checked it was a $25 registration fee, and then you can play some of the games.

Get your pup registered and have fun!

And to answer the original question, I'm a field trialer.

[sureshotshane]

Thats cool, I think I will just have to do that, as soon as I get her fixed. Thanks everyone

[kninebirddog]

here is the link that we ahve refered to on AKC http://www.akc.org/reg/ilpex.cfm which explains more indepth about what you can particpate in and also how to tae pictures to be sent in with the form
the form link http://www.akc.org/pdfs/ilpform.pdf

[tmoneysju]

i joined my local navhda chapter and will pursue their testing as well as hunt with my pup

[WildRose]

We hunt 120-150 days a year most years, field trial 20-30 days, and occasionally participate in AKC tests. CR

[Chief_dog]

Hunt 60-70 days a year. Trial another 10-15. I'd trial more if I could afford it, lol. But I don't ever see myself missing a day hunting to go to a trial.

[tommyboy72]

As long as we are talking about papers, can anyone tell me how to get a dog registered with a separate registry than what the dog is in now? I bought a dog for my wife, a weimaraner. I bought from a reputable breeder who has some nice Viszlas and Brittanies who I am pretty sure are FDSB registered. She also breeds some other types of dogs and sells them, one being Weims. When I recieved the papers a couple of weeks after purchasing the dog I was extremely disappointed to find out the darn dog was registered with the American Pet Registry and she had a 3 generation pedigree to go with it but all those dogs were registered with the same registry. From the research I have done this is a registry used by breeders and pet shop owners. I did not recognize nor do I like the registry and would like to register the dog with the AKC, NAVHDA, or the FDSB. Any advice would be appreciated. This particular registry does not appear to be recognized by any other so I am having some problems getting any help from the other registries.

[AHGSP]

We Test, Trial and Show our dogs, but above all..... I live to chase Ruffed Grouse

[Ruffshooter]

I hunt Ruffies and wood cock 30 plus days a year, Run on Wild birds during the off season in August & September and before the Spring mating, Duck hunt maybe 10 or 12, run MH test when I have the dog ready, run NSTRA when I have the time and money to travel 8 to 16 hours, I have recentley run a couple of AF/AKC trials locally last year. Will try to find more of them if I can.

[Ricky Ticky Shorthairs]

I love to field trial, but this is what my dogs and I REALLY LOVE to do.

FC Flashy Ricky Ticky Rocknfire after winning a 5 pt major Open Gun Dog at Ozark GSPC Spring '06 (retrieving)


Rock after a day in the field chasing Iowa Roosters


Rowdy's 1st Iowa Rooster


Tavi's 1st S. Dakota Rooster


Chong's 1st Iowa Roosters


Chong doesn't trial, but the rest of 'em do.

I work 3rd shift, so I try to get out every day to chase Roosters and Bobwhites, plus go to S. Dakota or Nebraska to chase Sharpies and Chickens.

Oh yea, I try to attend 6 to 10 trials a year too!! (Don't know how long that will last though, with the price of gas.)
If gas gets too high I'll cut back on trials, but definately not hunting!!

Doug

[BarkRidge]

I do not hunt. In my area, Western Ky, Central Tn, the quail are so few and far between it does not seem right to kill them when there numbers are so low. I am only interested in "bird" dogs for trialing purposes. For pets I choose another breed, German Shepherds.

[DGFavor]

Hunt, hunt, hunt!! I do a handful of field trials each year to socialize and justify all the "training" I do - I'd "train" even if I didn't go to trials. Training is really hunting exactly like we do in hunting season, just using a blank gun and paying more attention to crisp manners.

Hunting find with live rounds - bunch 'o sharpies (minus one ):



Training find with blank rounds - 3 sharpies:

[daddyfid]

1st - Hunting
2nd - Hunt Tests
3rd - Looking to start Field Trialing

[Greg Jennings]

I looked into this recently. This is from an e-mail that I sent...

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Did quick research on the ILP. Here is the executive summary:

1. Download and fill out this form: http://www.akc.org/pdfs/ilpform.pdf
2. Two pictures both taken at “dog level” on flat surface like a floor. Grass doesn’t work.
a. Full front showing face
b. Full profile
3. Statement from your vet saying she has been spayed
4. $35.00
5. Mail to:
The American Kennel Club/PAL/ILP
PO Box 900059
Raleigh, NC 27675-9059
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You can do the AKC pointing breed hunt tests with you WPG. Suggest that you search the archives on early versus later spaying/neutering. Consensus seems to be that later is better due to early-neutered dogs being more prone to athletic injuries like ACL tears.

Folks, we have led another person down the road to happy poverty....

Greg J.

[sureshotshane]

Thanks everyone, It sounds easy enough.

[3Britts]

I tend to hunt mine most of the time. Mostly I do guided hunts for Air Force barss and Scout troops and friends. I will trial on occaision. When I do, I run only puppy, derby or gun dog heats. I've found that all age and the like are too far from what I do in the real world of hunting. Please do not get me wrong. Those of you who like to run large and run all age have my deepest respect. However, to date, I have never hunted from a horse and see no reason to.
I should also mention, at this point, that I do own an all age dog. My Tania run as large as any dog I have ever seen. I just haven't caught the bug yet. And yes, Tania has placed in both events I have entered her in.

[romeo212000]

You should consider NSTRA trials. It is all done from foot except for the judges, birds are planted your dog runs against a brace mate for 30 mins, finds points, you flush and shoot and the dog retrieves. That is why I like them. As close to hunting scenarios as you will get.

[DGFavor]

As close to hunting scenarios as you will get.

Must say..noth..noth...nothing...tongue bitten...lips zipped...keep thoughts to self just once...self control Doug, you can do it...

[glk7243]

Must say..noth..noth...nothing...tongue bitten...lips zipped...keep thoughts to self just once...self control Doug, you can do it...

Good job Doug.