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So what is wrong with the term double bred. Or that the dogs are Fiddler or Elhew? If that is their background then I see those as the correct terms to use.
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Ezzy try reading my post again
Has nothing to do with the dogs that are noted or how they were noted ...has everything to do with what some of those people allow to procreate
Kinda like a guy here in AZ promotes his pointers to be grove island brute elhew bred dogs...They barely make good pets as the last 2 litters we have seen pups/dogs from had NO and I mean No desire about or for birds.
Kinda sad when a person brings their "----" bred dogs doesn't matter the breed only to find out that their pup is a super show bred dog that hackneys gaits out in the field and doesn't care about birds crushing their hopes of having a hunting dog or that there dog comes from a gun shy female to a male that will stop on a bird and stand there even as a young dog that is how this dog pointed if that is what you want to call it and the pups from these dogs ..I have a Silky that is a better bird dog and that was the words from the owner of the young dog that was brought out.
Has nothing to do with the dogs that are noted or how they were noted ...has everything to do with what some of those people allow to procreate
Kinda like a guy here in AZ promotes his pointers to be grove island brute elhew bred dogs...They barely make good pets as the last 2 litters we have seen pups/dogs from had NO and I mean No desire about or for birds.
Kinda sad when a person brings their "----" bred dogs doesn't matter the breed only to find out that their pup is a super show bred dog that hackneys gaits out in the field and doesn't care about birds crushing their hopes of having a hunting dog or that there dog comes from a gun shy female to a male that will stop on a bird and stand there even as a young dog that is how this dog pointed if that is what you want to call it and the pups from these dogs ..I have a Silky that is a better bird dog and that was the words from the owner of the young dog that was brought out.
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Re: Craigslist
They are just dogs, all of 'em. And, Craigslist has a policy against profit sale of 'em. And, they all bark at police helicopters at two in the morning.
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I admit I had trouble following what you were trying to say. I always wanted to see one of those showbred hackney gaited dogs you see all of the time. Wait, think I did see one of them the other day pulling a cart with two people in it. A nice sorrel with a blaze. Think they had just had it shod.kninebirddog wrote:Ezzy try reading my post again
Has nothing to do with the dogs that are noted or how they were noted ...has everything to do with what some of those people allow to procreate
Kinda like a guy here in AZ promotes his pointers to be grove island brute elhew bred dogs...They barely make good pets as the last 2 litters we have seen pups/dogs from had NO and I mean No desire about or for birds.
Kinda sad when a person brings their "----" bred dogs doesn't matter the breed only to find out that their pup is a super show bred dog that hackneys gaits out in the field and doesn't care about birds crushing their hopes of having a hunting dog or that there dog comes from a gun shy female to a male that will stop on a bird and stand there even as a young dog that is how this dog pointed if that is what you want to call it and the pups from these dogs ..I have a Silky that is a better bird dog and that was the words from the owner of the young dog that was brought out.
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I got my GWP/Lab Puck from Craigslist. Family in a small town had an accidental breeding and put them on Craigslist. They were all gone in two days. Puck is a little over a year old now. Has flushed and retrieved pheasants, brought ducks back from the Snake River, and is pointing pigeons now. Not bad for a Craigslist dog. Price was right too. Free to a good home.
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So now we are talking down on folks cause of how and where they advertise? Outta be ashamed of yerselves.....
Back in the day BEFORE the intrernet folks used to advertise in the local papers, on bulliten boards at sporting good stores etc. or is it some of you weree not around then? yeah that must be it.
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Ezzy we are a preserve we train dogs ..so it stands to reason I will see more dogs then majority of people do. And Yes I have sat in on an AKC judges seminar for the Brittany specialties and Guess what ..That is EXACTLY how they classify the Undesired gait which all to often get put up in the show ring.ezzy333 wrote:I admit I had trouble following what you were trying to say. I always wanted to see one of those showbred hackney gaited dogs you see all of the time. Wait, think I did see one of them the other day pulling a cart with two people in it. A nice sorrel with a blaze. Think they had just had it shod.kninebirddog wrote:Ezzy try reading my post again
Has nothing to do with the dogs that are noted or how they were noted ...has everything to do with what some of those people allow to procreate
Kinda like a guy here in AZ promotes his pointers to be grove island brute elhew bred dogs...They barely make good pets as the last 2 litters we have seen pups/dogs from had NO and I mean No desire about or for birds.
Kinda sad when a person brings their "----" bred dogs doesn't matter the breed only to find out that their pup is a super show bred dog that hackneys gaits out in the field and doesn't care about birds crushing their hopes of having a hunting dog or that there dog comes from a gun shy female to a male that will stop on a bird and stand there even as a young dog that is how this dog pointed if that is what you want to call it and the pups from these dogs ..I have a Silky that is a better bird dog and that was the words from the owner of the young dog that was brought out.
Ezzy
So stick with what you know and stop twisting my words around... :roll:
As for how people advertise...All I am getting at is how people advertise litters Seems when the whole talk is about all or one or a couple the dogs in the past and skipping any talk about the dam and sire of the litter
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I offered contacts to ALL the owners of the pups out of my dam's previous litter...as well as contacts to all breeders who had used the sire. NOT one buyer used those contacts...what else can you do??skipping any talk about the dam and sire of the litter
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JKP wrote:I offered contacts to ALL the owners of the pups out of my dam's previous litter...as well as contacts to all breeders who had used the sire. NOT one buyer used those contacts...what else can you do??skipping any talk about the dam and sire of the litter
That is all you can do...Let people know about Dam and about sire and yes also about the back ground
Yes it is good to use known dogs and programs when advertising pup adding the dam and sire helps give a full picture
Most people just like to see what is there...More information the better. Starting out is always hard, working with others really helps people knowing about your dog or dogs being used helps a lot
I find some of the online places to post very annoying as you set yourself up to get those scammers who offer a money order for mega bucks and send them the extra and keep what you need
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http://www.hookedonphonics.com/hooked-o ... KgodhUT9Cwmarkj wrote:So now we are talking down on folks cause of how and where they advertise? Outta be ashamed of yerselves.....Back in the day BEFORE the intrernet folks used to advertise in the local papers, on bulliten boards at sporting good stores etc. or is it some of you weree not around then? yeah that must be it.
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markj wrote:So now we are talking down on folks cause of how and where they advertise? Outta be ashamed of yerselves.....Back in the day BEFORE the intrernet folks used to advertise in the local papers, on bulliten boards at sporting good stores etc. or is it some of you weree not around then? yeah that must be it.
Dont talk about my gasrden untill yers is weed free is what grandma told me, took me awhikle to understand what she meant by that....
I'm not talking down folks in my posting on where to list litters, I'm just stating my opinion that if you are going to bring pups into this world, you need to be prepared ahead of time with GOOD forever homes for them. I will tell you that the local GSP code of conduct for the Club does not allow ANY advertising in the paper for litters - you sign that when you become a member. Our Vizsla club has similar guidelines. I just think it's a last ditch effort to find a home and it would be far better if the breeder would have homes lined up ahead of time to the best of his/her ability. I guess in the long run, it doesn't matter where the pups are listed. What really matters is that the reputable breeder will do a home check, vet check, and do a good job of seeing whether the new family is right for this pup. Too many people just do a cursory job of checking on the new homes and those pups end up in shelters. I see that all the time, papered Elhew, papered Rawhide, papered Miller's Chief.... all of them show up at our shelter. Many of them under a year old. I just think the breeder did a crappy job on checking out the homes - and an even crappier job of taking the pup back if the buyer didn't want it anymore. To me, that goes hand-in-hand with breeding a litter - you are responsible for that pup for the life of the pup. That means that it comes back to you (before it goes to the shelter) if the owner doesn't want it for any reason in the future.
Maybe that's not how it used to be done, but the way it goes on these days with so many unwanted birddogs in shelter is not the way it should be done. That's why my dogs are all spayed and neutered, because I want my garden in order before I talk to someone else about theirs! I have two dogs that come from excellent bloodlines and both are great hunting dogs, both with parents that are champions. However, I chose to spay one and neuter the other - I figure I can find as good or better dogs when the time comes to replace these two from going back to the breeders of these two (both are reputable breeders). But that's purely my choice and I wouldn't foist that off on anyone else - or look down on them for other choices they make - as long as they aren't adding to the problem of creating more puppies/dogs that will be killed in shelters.
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Craigslist is a great place to attract unwanted attention from antibreeding freaks.
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prairiefirepointers, I'm hopping you were joking about your hookedonphonics post; as two words in your first post, were spelled, incorrectly.hehe
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I think the only thing I have purchased from c-list is pigeons.
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A free dog is a free dog,i see guys take free dogs on GDF all the time!!!! Come on really yall going to judge where people get a free dog.And yes i said yall !!!!!!
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Where are you hopping to? Are you in a rabbit suit? Yes, it was meant lightheartedly.taxidermy wrote:prairiefirepointers, I'm hopping you were joking about your hookedonphonics post; as two words in your first post, were spelled, incorrectly.hehe
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This is my personal pet peeve. I consider it false advertising to put dog's names in the title of the ad that are 4-5 generations back. Grandparents are not so bad, but when you start to get to 4-5 generations back it is false advertising to me. The pups are not out of that dog 4 generations back. They are out of Dog X who is out of Dog Y who is out of Dog Z who is out of that dog. If the parents were good enough to bred why wouldn't you use their names in the title of the ad? Of course you can put whatever you want and if it helps sell pups as something they aren't then more power to you. Just my personal dislike.kninebirddog wrote:JKP wrote:I've traveled all over this country and I always look at the local papers. You would be surprised how many $200 dogs for sale there are and many from known breeding lines. I don't see any difference from advertising dogs on Craigslist then putting them in the local paper or advertiser. I was in Kansas City for the NRA National Convention by chance...the year Charlton Heston lifted the musket and roared, "From my cold, dead hands!!" (a great moment) and remember calling about a litter of double bred Fiddler Pointers for $250. So does it matter where you read about them??
I see people all the time say double bred ___ dog or talk some dogs that Wow they are in the pedigree but look at what they allow to procreate
I see breedings all the time where someone says Elhew bred ...and I just have wonder how many times Whele has rolled in his grave..Has he rolled so much that he has drilled himself into the grave plot in front of him?
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Well at the risk of getting beat up im going to say i dont see anything wrong with stating dogs from 5 generations back..i agree that the parents should be a first and foremost honorable mention but after all it did take ALL those dogs being there for your pup to be here..in my opinion dogs shouldnt be bred unless you are bringing something to the line, the sire and dam should be titled and/or proven hunting dogs with great dispositions to be examples of what the breed is all about, i dont agree with just throwing 2 dogs together because they have rawhides clown or elhew or tekoa lines but are not bidable, genetic issues or aggressive..if you have those lines and are impressed with your dog and think it has something to bring to improving the breed then i dont see a problem with breeding..i think its neat even looking back farther if possible, just like my family, weve been doing our geneology and seeing our ancestors from 100 years back and i find it fascinating to see who was there in order for me to be here..i mean if just one person was different i wouldnt be here, same with the dogs, it took all the generations of those dogs to create that pup so it is important to mention it and why not if its a well known dog..i now know i came from adam and eve and apparently they were pretty popular
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And this has to do with Craigslist how? The point is whether or not decent dogs can be found on Craigslist. I say, "Yes," but only after they get dumped in rescue. Really, if people wish to breed dogs, they should have a better outlet than Craigslist. It is a useful tool for rescue, leave it to them.GUNDOGS wrote:Well at the risk of getting beat up im going to say i dont see anything wrong with stating dogs from 5 generations back..i agree that the parents should be a first and foremost honorable mention but after all it did take ALL those dogs being there for your pup to be here..in my opinion dogs shouldnt be bred unless you are bringing something to the line, the sire and dam should be titled and/or proven hunting dogs with great dispositions to be examples of what the breed is all about, i dont agree with just throwing 2 dogs together because they have rawhides clown or elhew or tekoa lines but are not bidable, genetic issues or aggressive..if you have those lines and are impressed with your dog and think it has something to bring to improving the breed then i dont see a problem with breeding..i think its neat even looking back farther if possible, just like my family, weve been doing our geneology and seeing our ancestors from 100 years back and i find it fascinating to see who was there in order for me to be here..i mean if just one person was different i wouldnt be here, same with the dogs, it took all the generations of those dogs to create that pup so it is important to mention it and why not if its a well known dog..i now know i came from adam and eve and apparently they were pretty popular....ruth
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read the post above mine, it was what i was commenting on ...ruthCajun Casey wrote:And this has to do with Craigslist how? The point is whether or not decent dogs can be found on Craigslist. I say, "Yes," but only after they get dumped in rescue. Really, if people wish to breed dogs, they should have a better outlet than Craigslist. It is a useful tool for rescue, leave it to them.GUNDOGS wrote:Well at the risk of getting beat up im going to say i dont see anything wrong with stating dogs from 5 generations back..i agree that the parents should be a first and foremost honorable mention but after all it did take ALL those dogs being there for your pup to be here..in my opinion dogs shouldnt be bred unless you are bringing something to the line, the sire and dam should be titled and/or proven hunting dogs with great dispositions to be examples of what the breed is all about, i dont agree with just throwing 2 dogs together because they have rawhides clown or elhew or tekoa lines but are not bidable, genetic issues or aggressive..if you have those lines and are impressed with your dog and think it has something to bring to improving the breed then i dont see a problem with breeding..i think its neat even looking back farther if possible, just like my family, weve been doing our geneology and seeing our ancestors from 100 years back and i find it fascinating to see who was there in order for me to be here..i mean if just one person was different i wouldnt be here, same with the dogs, it took all the generations of those dogs to create that pup so it is important to mention it and why not if its a well known dog..i now know i came from adam and eve and apparently they were pretty popular....ruth
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Man I am still working on ebonics..... (Where I work) and I did fix that one single mistake.http://www.hookedonphonics.com/hooked-o ... KgodhUT9Cw
Sometimes folks have a litter, sure why not, guy gets deposits for say 6 dogs, fine, gal has 12 pups, folks will find not everyone wants that dog so adds are posted, heck it even happens here or this forum wouldnt have a for sale forum.
My point was, I dont talk down on what another is doing. It only lowers me to a level I dont wish to be associated with. Specially a one sided attack. Wont do business with anyone does this either.
We have a shelter here too, we donate as it is a no kill shelter. I have taken shorthairs and re homed them from this shelter and the one in Oakland. big deal.
As far as advert in the paper and belonging to a club, well I wont join one like that. I do as I see fit with my dogs, they are not their. too nose up and all that I suppose, it seems to be the way things are going these days. Bash someone else and feel all better or what?
I saw some shorthairs on craifgslist had FC sire and dam. Is free advertising just like this forum has and many others, why ot take advantasge of free whenever possible?
I sold a mower on craigslist, a car, a truck, bought 3 steers, a truck, 2 motorcycles..........better prices on steers than the sale barns too.
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I do have to add the fact that some folks use craigslist for bad things. A guy in Fremont Nebr was wanting to sell a gold coin, so he adverts on cl, guy wants to see it, they meet up, dont like the place so they go to a park. Guy sprays man with pepper spray and takes coin. Folks at park see this and chase down crooks cops jail them.
I always have them come to my place, I always have a 45 in my pocket (gotta permit) and someone in the house watching, if it is mom then you can bet a 357 is out she had a run in 2 weeks ago I can add later. A rifle is in the barn hidden I never take a chance when it comes to safety I gots kids.
2 weeks ago a white chevy truck stops, mom is on the deck, guys say they are county workers and want to know if she has stuff for them to haul away, they were eyeing my copper (old radiators) and metal pile. She told em no but they could remove the trees they cut down and left in our ditch
no they left, kept driving by for 2 days. She told me, I see em, I step out in road they race by havent seen em since.
Always be carefull, no matter if it is craigslist, a local paper, ebay or the local walmart. Self defense and self awareness are key to staying safe in this day.
I always have them come to my place, I always have a 45 in my pocket (gotta permit) and someone in the house watching, if it is mom then you can bet a 357 is out she had a run in 2 weeks ago I can add later. A rifle is in the barn hidden I never take a chance when it comes to safety I gots kids.
2 weeks ago a white chevy truck stops, mom is on the deck, guys say they are county workers and want to know if she has stuff for them to haul away, they were eyeing my copper (old radiators) and metal pile. She told em no but they could remove the trees they cut down and left in our ditch

Always be carefull, no matter if it is craigslist, a local paper, ebay or the local walmart. Self defense and self awareness are key to staying safe in this day.
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My German shepherd and Aussiepibble are both always loaded.
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Gun shy dogs are not born, they are CREATED by humans. Period.kninebirddog wrote:Ezzy try reading my post again
Has nothing to do with the dogs that are noted or how they were noted ...has everything to do with what some of those people allow to procreate
Kinda like a guy here in AZ promotes his pointers to be grove island brute elhew bred dogs...They barely make good pets as the last 2 litters we have seen pups/dogs from had NO and I mean No desire about or for birds.
Kinda sad when a person brings their "----" bred dogs doesn't matter the breed only to find out that their pup is a super show bred dog that hackneys gaits out in the field and doesn't care about birds crushing their hopes of having a hunting dog or that there dog comes from a gun shy female to a male that will stop on a bird and stand there even as a young dog that is how this dog pointed if that is what you want to call it and the pups from these dogs ..I have a Silky that is a better bird dog and that was the words from the owner of the young dog that was brought out.
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If a dog doesn't have the bird desire to get over being gun shy then it has NO business being in a breeding program Period.kensfishing wrote:Gun shy dogs are not born, they are CREATED by humans. Period.kninebirddog wrote:Ezzy try reading my post again
Has nothing to do with the dogs that are noted or how they were noted ...has everything to do with what some of those people allow to procreate
Kinda like a guy here in AZ promotes his pointers to be grove island brute elhew bred dogs...They barely make good pets as the last 2 litters we have seen pups/dogs from had NO and I mean No desire about or for birds.
Kinda sad when a person brings their "----" bred dogs doesn't matter the breed only to find out that their pup is a super show bred dog that hackneys gaits out in the field and doesn't care about birds crushing their hopes of having a hunting dog or that there dog comes from a gun shy female to a male that will stop on a bird and stand there even as a young dog that is how this dog pointed if that is what you want to call it and the pups from these dogs ..I have a Silky that is a better bird dog and that was the words from the owner of the young dog that was brought out.
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Two different ideas. A dog that has no desire for birds in one thing, but a gun shy female and her offspring being born gun shy is a totally different thing. I've seen dogs from a litter that one dog has no desire for birds and that's is often a people created problem also.
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I have 6 shorthairs, they will bark, but I handle the bad guys, gotta have some pleasure in life...My German shepherd and Aussiepibble are both always loaded

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Here in Maine (ME,NH, MA) we have a small magazine, Uncle Henry's. Has anything you could imagine, from antique autos to bulldozers to new cars and trucks lumber, horses, cattle cats, dogs and any other thing you can imagine, except maybe a lady of the night. We have another mag for that.
This little magazine Is the before Craigs list go to place to sell, swap or buy. Like anything you always have to check out anything that you are going to purchase and check out the people if you can. Many of hte dogs in UH are well bred, many hunting dogs, some mutts including designer mutts. For me Craigs list seems like it could be easier to get screwed over especially if you are buying out of state and site unseen. Too risky for me.
Rick

This little magazine Is the before Craigs list go to place to sell, swap or buy. Like anything you always have to check out anything that you are going to purchase and check out the people if you can. Many of hte dogs in UH are well bred, many hunting dogs, some mutts including designer mutts. For me Craigs list seems like it could be easier to get screwed over especially if you are buying out of state and site unseen. Too risky for me.
Rick
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Craigslist prohibits selling animals for profit.markj wrote: My point was, I dont talk down on what another is doing. It only lowers me to a level I dont wish to be associated with
People that will completely disregard the rules to make money are people I'd rather not have associated with the bird dog world.
Are CC and I the only ones that see that as an issue?
I have English Pointers because they don't ever grow up either...
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Craigslist states that a (small adoption fee is O.K.) which is very vague and opens up the selling of animals for profit. What is a small adoption fee, I would say $50-$100, if I were trying to sell pups I would probably change my opinion to $300-$500. I truely don't think craiglist could care less but are trying to cover their a** against law suits. If they cared they would have simply stated NO SELLING PETS.Craigslist prohibits selling animals for profit.
People that will completely disregard the rules to make money are people I'd rather not have associated with the bird dog world.
Are CC and I the only ones that see that as an issue?
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Someone please think of a new topic, and kinda hurry. The Craigslist and Walmart talks are leaving me pyning for this:
This is getting funny. Why is it so hard for posers to admit they are such? You either are an avid hunter, or you are not. Easy. I would love to compare freezers. Most guys don't have the guts to do so. Oh, I know, it isn't about the harvest.
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Maybe that's not how it used to be done, but the way it goes on these days with so many unwanted birddogs in shelter is not the way it should be done. [/quote]
Not that it adds any value to this discussion but there are no bird dogs whatsoever showing up in our local shelters. I looked for months while doing my homework and would have gambled on a pup if I'd seen one that looked like it had good birddog breedings just to get one out of there I suppose.. Saw and played with a bunch of cute mixed breed pups though. it was hard to leave a couple of them there when I left. But I like my new pup so things work out for the best as they say.
Not that it adds any value to this discussion but there are no bird dogs whatsoever showing up in our local shelters. I looked for months while doing my homework and would have gambled on a pup if I'd seen one that looked like it had good birddog breedings just to get one out of there I suppose.. Saw and played with a bunch of cute mixed breed pups though. it was hard to leave a couple of them there when I left. But I like my new pup so things work out for the best as they say.
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Ok Have some Elk, Whitetail, Axis, Pheasant ,chukar, some Quail and a frozen pigeon or two..some yellow fin blue fin and a couple other fish ..A couple range calves that some punk felt would be fun to hit and hit again and leave bawling on the side of the road with broken legs..yes evidence showed he had to swerve to hit them not miss PS not bad flavor eitherChukar12 wrote:Someone please think of a new topic, and kinda hurry. The Craigslist and Walmart talks are leaving me pyning for this:
This is getting funny. Why is it so hard for posers to admit they are such? You either are an avid hunter, or you are not. Easy. I would love to compare freezers. Most guys don't have the guts to do so. Oh, I know, it isn't about the harvest.
OH yeah a few bags of Walmarts frozen Shrimp oh and if I dig further might have to send a search party
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see that wasnt hard why didnt you answer when BD brought it up the first 1239 times...?
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4ShotB wrote:Maybe that's not how it used to be done, but the way it goes on these days with so many unwanted birddogs in shelter is not the way it should be done.
Not that it adds any value to this discussion but there are no bird dogs whatsoever showing up in our local shelters. I looked for months while doing my homework and would have gambled on a pup if I'd seen one that looked like it had good birddog breedings just to get one out of there I suppose.. Saw and played with a bunch of cute mixed breed pups though. it was hard to leave a couple of them there when I left. But I like my new pup so things work out for the best as they say.[/quote]
You would be surprised at how many animal shelter people can not identify a breed

Shelter up the road from us one of their workers thinks eng pointers are dalmations
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Because I don't feel the need to swing from vines beating my chestChukar12 wrote:see that wasnt hard why didnt you answer when BD brought it up the first 1239 times...?
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nikegundog wrote:Craigslist states that a (small adoption fee is O.K.) which is very vague and opens up the selling of animals for profit. What is a small adoption fee, I would say $50-$100, if I were trying to sell pups I would probably change my opinion to $300-$500. I truely don't think craiglist could care less but are trying to cover their a** against law suits. If they cared they would have simply stated NO SELLING PETS.Craigslist prohibits selling animals for profit.
People that will completely disregard the rules to make money are people I'd rather not have associated with the bird dog world.
Are CC and I the only ones that see that as an issue?
I don't see how this is opening up selling animals for profit...Craigslist Rules wrote:Household pets of any kind including but not limited to dogs, cats, primates, cage birds, rodents, reptiles, amphibians, fish. Re-homing with small adoption fee OK
Pet animal parts, blood, or fluids - including but not limited to stud/breeding service
I have English Pointers because they don't ever grow up either...
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and you really shouldn't with your knee troublesBecause I don't feel the need to swing from vines beating my chest
Re: Craigslist
Well way I see it, if ya see an add on Cl you dont like, just flag it and it will be removed. LOL Dont like wal mart, shop somewhere else. Dont like yer neighbor? well this isnt the place to tell about it.
and why is it so important it needs 2 pages of a forum on hunting dogs? LOL very funny stuff here.
and why is it so important it needs 2 pages of a forum on hunting dogs? LOL very funny stuff here.
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Re: Craigslist
Craigslist:
no pet sales or breeding please -- rehoming with small adoption fee OK
Partial list of items for sale and services the advertisement of which is not permitted on craigslist:
Household pets of any kind including but not limited to dogs, cats, primates, cage birds, rodents, reptiles, amphibians, fish. Re-homing with small adoption fee OK.
Pet animal parts, blood, or fluids - including but not limited to stud/breeding service
Clearly, this site is NOT for anyone breeding a litter so I don't get why people get all hot and bothered when their ads get flagged off or they think they have the "right" to use Craigslist to sell litters of pups. That's not allowed there, easy peasy - just go advertise elsewhere.
no pet sales or breeding please -- rehoming with small adoption fee OK
Partial list of items for sale and services the advertisement of which is not permitted on craigslist:
Household pets of any kind including but not limited to dogs, cats, primates, cage birds, rodents, reptiles, amphibians, fish. Re-homing with small adoption fee OK.
Pet animal parts, blood, or fluids - including but not limited to stud/breeding service
Clearly, this site is NOT for anyone breeding a litter so I don't get why people get all hot and bothered when their ads get flagged off or they think they have the "right" to use Craigslist to sell litters of pups. That's not allowed there, easy peasy - just go advertise elsewhere.
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AMEN!!!!!RoostersMom wrote:Craigslist:
no pet sales or breeding please -- rehoming with small adoption fee OK
Partial list of items for sale and services the advertisement of which is not permitted on craigslist:
Household pets of any kind including but not limited to dogs, cats, primates, cage birds, rodents, reptiles, amphibians, fish. Re-homing with small adoption fee OK.
Pet animal parts, blood, or fluids - including but not limited to stud/breeding service
Clearly, this site is NOT for anyone breeding a litter so I don't get why people get all hot and bothered when their ads get flagged off or they think they have the "right" to use Craigslist to sell litters of pups. That's not allowed there, easy peasy - just go advertise elsewhere.
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yep ,, and the law said you may not drive faster than the posted speed limit and you must wear seat belts and you can not talk on cell ph. while driving or drink and drive and on and on ; so what's your point ; back to the old saying about weeds in your garden or glass houses or well you get my point !!!!
If some one wants to use c.l. he or she takes the risk ,,,wait maybe you are one of the guys standing on the road side with a radar gun or a flagger. hehehehehehe
NOW i'm going to check my spellen.
If some one wants to use c.l. he or she takes the risk ,,,wait maybe you are one of the guys standing on the road side with a radar gun or a flagger. hehehehehehe
NOW i'm going to check my spellen.
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Here, you have to have a "hobbyist permit" to have intact animals. There are people who spend their time cruising CL and turning ANYONE with puppies, free or otherwise, in to Animal Control. If someone cares about their dogs, they don't put them on Craigslist.taxidermy wrote:yep ,, and the law said you may not drive faster than the posted speed limit and you must wear seat belts and you can not talk on cell ph. while driving or drink and drive and on and on ; so what's your point ; back to the old saying about weeds in your garden or glass houses or well you get my point !!!!
If some one wants to use c.l. he or she takes the risk ,,,wait maybe you are one of the guys standing on the road side with a radar gun or a flagger. hehehehehehe
NOW i'm going to check my spellen.
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Chukar12 wrote:and you really shouldn't with your knee troublesBecause I don't feel the need to swing from vines beating my chest
Tried to claim warranty ..I Was told it already expired
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Yes, there are many free sites just for this reason. I think folks want to advert local and see CL as the local way to go. I dont care one way or the other, I doubt anyone follows the letter of the law 100% of the timejust go advertise elsewhere

I got news, some folks cannot spend 200 or even 100 for a dog. I dont even mention the cost to anyone I know, they would think I am nuts for spending as much as I have on them. I get, "you can get a good hunter in the paper for 100" or even free but that isnt what I am after. Thankfully I can spend a few bucks and buy some good dog flesh, others cannot. So do we say too bad tough luck go suck eggs? Let em buy them Cl dogs, it may be all they really need.
I bought 3 of my dogs off free sites


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"If there are no dogs in Heaven,
then when I die I want to go
where they went."
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http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=5210
"If there are no dogs in Heaven,
then when I die I want to go
where they went."
Will Rogers, 1897-1935
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yep, the last ones link doesn't work.I bought 3 of my dogs off free sites they are in my sig...... Is there anything wrong with them? LOL

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brad27 wrote:yep, the last ones link doesn't work.I bought 3 of my dogs off free sites they are in my sig...... Is there anything wrong with them? LOL. nice dogs.



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I will fix that so you can take a looky at her ped. thanks for the heads up there.
I will fix that so you can take a looky at her ped. thanks for the heads up there.
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http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=5210
"If there are no dogs in Heaven,
then when I die I want to go
where they went."
Will Rogers, 1897-1935
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=5210
"If there are no dogs in Heaven,
then when I die I want to go
where they went."
Will Rogers, 1897-1935