2010 GSP Pheasant Championship @ Wye Island, MD - Any info ?

[GrayDawg]

Can anyone provide some information regarding this event?
Stakes offered, Dates in November when this will be held?
What organization is sanctioning/sponsoring this event?
Is this event really only open to GSPs?

Website/URL where one can get more info/details.......

Thanks,

Rob

[SFK]

They have Open Derby, Am Shooting Dog, Open Shooting Dog, and Open All Age,

Past few years they have started on Friday with the Open Derby followed by the ASD, OAA, OSD.

It is followed by a Regional (region 2?) that has OD and OSD.

Because of how dates fall, I am not sure if it will start on the first or second Friday of Novemeber. Maybe Remmy can chime in here as I am sure he has all the details.

Official info should be published in the field sometime late Sept/ Early Oct.

[GrayDawg]

Art,
Thanks for the info- very helpful. At least now I know there's a stake for my Derby!
Although you didn't say it, I'm assuming this event is GSP only?

For that matter, do you know whether it is it NGSPA or GSPCA sanctioned?

I'm hoping it starts on 11/5 & not 11/12, as there is a trial in CT that I'd
like to attend on the 13th/14th.

BTW, your Dee dog looks alot like my Katy- although Katy is ticked where Dee is white.
But their heads/faces are almost identical.

Rob

[Jager]

I believe the starting date this year is Nov.5. Then I believe followed by Region 3. I have been going for 3 years now and it is certainly a beautiful area to run dogs. And as stated earlier they have the open derby, ASD, OAA, then OSD.

[Wagonmaster]

It is an NGSPA hour championship. The Wye Island grounds are very pretty in the fall. Wye is, well, an island in the east side of the Chesapeake Bay. Lots of geese that time of year. The course is around the outside edge of the island. The dogs really can't get away because the bay is there.

One of the major features of the Pheasant is the food. There is a very nice clubhouse and it has a kitchen, so the club does a great job with the dinners. One of the traditional dinners is a crab feast. Bushels of cooked crab are set out, you are issued a wooden mallet, and you and the mallet get all the crab you can dig out.

It will be up to the club whether they will take advantage of the new dual sanctioned trial format, which would make the trial an AKC points trial as well as an NGSPA hour championship. That will probably be published on the www.ngspa.org website some time in October.

[RayGubernat]

Rob -

The folks that run the Wye Is. GSP trials are a first class bunch and they do everything humanly possible to put on a first class trial. They had some issues last year with crops in the field, but I suspect that will not be an issue this time around.

From what little I saw of your dog, I would say she should show well there. You should go if you can. Last year there were folks from as far away as Texas. It is a Natonal championship event so the folks that come are bringing their A game. The competition can be very keen, but that is when you know what you really have.

RayG

[GrayDawg]

From what little I saw of your dog, I would say she should show well there. You should go if you can. Last year there were folks from as far away as Texas. It is a Natonal championship event so the folks that come are bringing their A game. The competition can be very keen, but that is when you know what you really have.RayG

And that Sir, is why I'm interested in bringing my young Derby down there in November.

See you soon my friend,

Rob

[Wagonmaster]

PS, if the dog is a Derby I can guarantee that the Derby stake will not be dual sanctioned, if that makes a difference to you. Even if they decide on a dual sanctioned trial, It will be up to the club to determine whether the Derby will be AKC or NGPSA, but the Derby can be only one of the two. The Derby is also not an hour stake under either NGSPA or AKC rules.

Good luck. You will have a great time there.

[GrayDawg]

John,
Thanks for the additional info. That's just fine- makes no difference to me if the stake is dual sanctioned or not, I was just wonderin'
more than anything else. This will be a good measuring stick for my dog as the fall season will be just about wrapping up after this trial
for us....... only two other trials that I know we'll be going to after this one in MD, the Nutmeg GSP club & the CVVC- both at Flaherty in CT.
I may hit one other AF trial if weather permits, I don't mind running in cold weather- I just don't like ice on the ground for the sake of the dog's feet.

Between trialing & Woodcock/Grouse hunts, my little Gyp will have a busy fall. Based on how she performs, we'll figure out a plan for winter camp so she can get finished up and ready for adult stakes next spring- so long as she's showing me she still has the motor.

Thanks again for all the info- I'm sure the folks down there will be good people to meet & ride with,

Rob

[remmy]

As of our last meeting there has been no mention making this trial dual sanction. Nov 5 will start the Derby followed by ASD, OAA and OSD. This is all followed by the Reg 3 OSD and OD.

Rob, this is GSP only and hope to see you there. They are truly beautiful grounds to run dogs.

On a side note, the Eastern GSP trial is Oct 1-3 at Medford, NJ. Let me know if you need a premium. PM me your email if you need one. Hope to see you there as well.

Rob

[SFK]

Rob - I plan on being up there for the entire trial - look me up.

It is a really fun trial. Crazy senes like a dog working a line and a saiboat going by in the background.

...And you eat like a king...

[DGFavor]

Never realized Maryland was a hotbed for pheasants!

[Rich Heaton]

Never realized Maryland was a hotbed for pheasants

That's it,,,, That's all ya got?? What's next,,, the Hun Championship at Hoffman?

[birddog1968]

Never realized Maryland was a hotbed for pheasants!

We used to have a mess of Phez in localized areas where the soil and habitat was right....only a few left now as development has taken over.

Quail used to be thick as skeeters.

[RayGubernat]

Rob -

Let me know which derby you are planning to enter. I would enjoy seeing your dog run again.

Also do think about the eastern GSP. The English Setter Club at Medford is a very nice, very safe place to run a dog. Many of the same folks you will see at medford will also be at Wye Is. I will be running my derby in that trial . It would be neat to be braced together.

RayG

[GrayDawg]

Ray,
I was all excited to come down to Medford with Katy for the Eastern GSP trial this fall (especially after she came into season 4 days before the spring trial this year & I had to call Jeff & scratch), then I saw the dates & my heart sank. My wife & I have tickets to a long awaited concert on Friday, Oct. 1st, so getting down to NJ is probably out. I have to pick my spots- I'm heading to Maine on a Woodcock/Grouse hunt Oct. 13th-16th, so we'll more than likely miss the EGSPC trial in Medford this fall.

I will be heading to Wye Island and plan to run Katy in the Derby that I guess is being run on 11/5.

Hopefully we'll run into each other a couple of times this fall,

Rob

[Jager]

Hi Remmy, shoot me a premium for the Eastern GSP on Oct. 1-3, if you don't mind?. This may be one that I can get to.

[remmy]

Shoot me your email and I will send you one. Don't think I can attach it here.

[Wagonmaster]

Actually, the pheasant is not native anywhere. Not even in China. The "Ringneck Pheasant" is a hybrid game farm bird turned loose, a feral bird not a native. It exists wherever it has been turned loose. Huns ain't native to the US either - its that pesky "Hun" part. Feral again. For that matter, the Chukar is not native anywhere in the US either. Also feral.

Now, you wanna talk sharptail or prairie chicken or sage grouse or bobwhites, any of the birds that actually belong in a part of the US, that would be a different thing.

[huskerGSP]

I spent a summer working for Wye Angus right there beside Wye Island when I was in college. It was a great place during the summer, would love to see it in the fall.

[remmy]

Rob, how long of a drive is it for you to Medford? The derby won't start until late Saturday morning.

[GrayDawg]

Bob,
I'm about 4 hours to the GW Bridge if there's no traffic, so I figure 5 to 5.5 hours from Medford?
It'll be tough as I'll be out with my wife the night before for our anniversary- I don't want to rush the
evening...... I really can't rush it even if I wanted to, we're going to a show that we've been waiting months for.

You know the 'ole saying, "You can't crap where you eat!"

I'd need to hire a driver to get me down there. Better yet, hand Katy off to someone up here who is going down
& have them run her for me. But that wouldn't be fair to them or Katy without any time to practice.........

[DGFavor]

Actually, the pheasant is not native anywhere.

Yer trying to smoke screen the issue, lawyering up! A species championship on released pen birds...??? Species in name only! IMO, part of being a species champion means demonstrating handling and ability on the real target species and the phez reared in the wild has a lot more going on in his noodle regarding eluding bird dogs than one does that gets dropped outta the chuck wagon on the day of the trial.

[Rich Heaton]

dropped outta the chuck wagon on the day of the trial.

Good one man,,, knew I could count on ya.

John,,, you going to show up at the sharptail?

[Wagonmaster]

Hey, I am not a fan of specie championships on planty birds. For that matter I am not a fan of trials held on planty birds period. But although I have shot alot of feral pheasants in the field, and will shoot some more this year I hope, they are still feral, kinda like feral pigs are feral. Don't belong there and disturb the ones that do.

Besides, people who hunt pheasants thinking they are hunting birds raised in the wild are deluding themselves. Local sportsmans clubs stock em and even state DNR's stock or distribute to farmers who stock so they can bring paying hunters in come fall.

[GrayDawg]

Hey fellas,
I certainly didn't intend for the thread to migrate to this subject.
With all due respect- can I respectully request that any other posts respond to the
subject in the title of this thread?

Thanks,

Rob

[Wagonmaster]

Aw shoot, Doc Favor and Richie and me are friends. I only get to see em once a year or so cause they are out in ID. But we are just pickin on each other. Ok, we will cut it out.

[birddog1968]

Hint- if ya get a chance eat at Harris Crab House on Kent Narrows, bout 15 minutes from Wye Island.

[remmy]

Bob,
I'm about 4 hours to the GW Bridge if there's no traffic, so I figure 5 to 5.5 hours from Medford?
It'll be tough as I'll be out with my wife the night before for our anniversary- I don't want to rush the
evening...... I really can't rush it even if I wanted to, we're going to a show that we've been waiting months for.

You know the 'ole saying, "You can't crap where you eat!"

I'd need to hire a driver to get me down there. Better yet, hand Katy off to someone up here who is going down
& have them run her for me. But that wouldn't be fair to them or Katy without any time to practice.........

Yes...That'll be a tough one. Heck you didn't say it was your anniversary! If you know what's good for you then you should not rush the night like you said.

Rob

[GrayDawg]

One last question- how can I get on the distribution list to receive a Premium List/Entry Form for this event?
My email address is: graydawg864@aol.com

Thanks,

Rob

[Fieldmaster]

Rob,
All goes well we will be at the Pheasant and Region 3 also. Hope to see you there meet up and ride a few braces together.

Robert

[remmy]

This is NGSPA/American Field...so there is no premium. The only thing there will be is the ad in the AF. Do you subscribe? Entries are phone in. If you don't receive the AF let me know and I will give you the info when it comes out...probably sometime in late Sept or October.

Rob

[GrayDawg]

Mr. Grove,
I won't be able to stay for the Region 3, but I'll most definitely be there for the Pheasant Championship on Friday & Saturday (leaving Sunday). This work thing keeps getting in the way! :roll: It would be most enjoyable to watch some braces with you. Maybe I can get our mutual friend John Lucy to caravan down with me as I zip past Long Island?

Rob,
Yeah- I get The Field. I'll just wait for the notice & then phone in my entry. Thanks for the info- I owe you a beer!

Rob