Thank you

[Sharon]

While I think of it, a big thank you to so many members who are taking the time to write such excellent posts ; if one were to sit and read the posts over the past two weeks, you would be amazed at the expertise here. Thank you.

And not only excellent posts, but real gentlemen and ladies. A moderator isn't even really needed here. Very few forums like that.

[Garrison]

Only because the moderator has whipped everyone into shape! When you go on vacation, all bets are off.

[Steve007]

Only because the moderator has whipped everyone into shape! When you go on vacation, all bets are off.

You people who think you know everything are quite irritating to we who do.

[Garrison]

Only because the moderator has whipped everyone into shape! When you go on vacation, all bets are off.

You people who think you know everything are quite irritating to we who do.

Steve007,

In Plato’s Apology, I’m pretty sure he said Socrates had something similar to say about this subject.

“For my part, as I went away, I reasoned with regard to myself: I am wiser than this human being. For probably neither of us knows anything noble and good, but he supposes he knows something when he does not know, while I, just as I do not know, do not even suppose that I do. I am likely to be a little bit wiser than he in this very thing: that whatever I do not know, I do not even suppose I know.⁣”

Garrison

[RayGubernat]

Only because the moderator has whipped everyone into shape! When you go on vacation, all bets are off.

You people who think you know everything are quite irritating to we who do.

Steve007,

In Plato’s Apology, I’m pretty sure he said Socrates had something similar to say about this subject.

“For my part, as I went away, I reasoned with regard to myself: I am wiser than this human being. For probably neither of us knows anything noble and good, but he supposes he knows something when he does not know, while I, just as I do not know, do not even suppose that I do. I am likely to be a little bit wiser than he in this very thing: that whatever I do not know, I do not even suppose I know.⁣”

Garrison

And Acquinas, Nietsche, Descartes and Husserl have been faking it ever since. I think, I believe, I doubt, a search for "essence"... lots of fun with words...and none of them could train a dog. So THERE!

Its getting deep in here!!

RayG

[Garrison]

You people who think you know everything are quite irritating to we who do.

Steve007,

In Plato’s Apology, I’m pretty sure he said Socrates had something similar to say about this subject.

“For my part, as I went away, I reasoned with regard to myself: I am wiser than this human being. For probably neither of us knows anything noble and good, but he supposes he knows something when he does not know, while I, just as I do not know, do not even suppose that I do. I am likely to be a little bit wiser than he in this very thing: that whatever I do not know, I do not even suppose I know.⁣”

Garrison

And Acquinas, Nietsche, Descartes and Husserl have been faking it ever since. I think, I believe, I doubt, a search for "essence"... lots of fun with words...and none of them could train a dog. So THERE!

Its getting deep in here!!

RayG

Ray,
As long as you have been posting, I should correctly say reading these forums……I’m pretty sure you own a good pair of tall rubber boots, maybe even waders!

Garrison

[Steve007]

I have read "Plato's apology" on a number of occasions -- most recently a few months ago-- but don't quite have it memorized. On the other hand, Garrison, I think it unlikely that "neither of us knows anything noble and good." We probably both do. As did Socrates. I like reading classical literature -- though I include essays of Bacon and Emerson along with that-- and find a great deal that applies to normal life and even to dog training. Emerson's essay on "Power" has a lot to be said for it. Re-read it, and see if you don't agree. And being in contact with first-class minds -- other than those on this board, that is-- is beneficial all by itself.

[NEhomer]

True that decorum is absent from many boards, however, mods like Sharon are equally rare!

[Garrison]

I have read "Plato's apology" on a number of occasions -- most recently a few months ago-- but don't quite have it memorized. On the other hand, Garrison, I think it unlikely that "neither of us knows anything noble and good." We probably both do. As did Socrates. I like reading classical literature -- though I include essays of Bacon and Emerson along with that-- and find a great deal that applies to normal life and even to dog training. Emerson's essay on "Power" has a lot to be said for it. Re-read it, and see if you don't agree. And being in contact with first-class minds -- other than those on this board, that is-- is beneficial all by itself.

Steve007,

The relative merits of transcendentalism, is about as off topic as the off topic forum has ever been! I have always believed the mark of a master, in any form, be it art, architecture, music or word, is thematic timelessness. “Nature, Fate, Power, Wealth, etc.” being no exception. I am flattered you were generous enough to think I could memorize the previous quote (I had to dust off the book from sophomore year), I just couldn’t stomach the "bleep" “I know that I know nothing”. Truth be told, I have a hard enough time remembering my login to the forum.

As far as “Power” some semblance of the following has always stuck with me. “The most amiable of country gentlemen has a certain pleasure in the teeth of the bulldog which guards his orchard.”

So much seems to ring truer today than the day it was written.

Now back to the Bird Dogs!

Garrison

[Garrison]

True that decorum is absent from many boards, however, mods like Sharon are equally rare!

+1

[RayGubernat]

Sharon -

Your restrained, but firm hand on this forum has been a blessing. It is I who wish to thank you for your patience and diligence in maintaining the high standard of communication on this board. It is a pleasure to correspond here, in large part because of your efforts.

Hang in there my friend.

Ray Gubernat