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Today while at work 2 ladies walked by with Labradoodles. Though I have heard of this breed I have never seen one before. Very nice dogs actually . Not bad looking, nice temperment .seemed Like a nice breed. Their is a dog (sporting group) I believe bird dog that looks similar . Does anyone have any input? Just curious ?

Seen them, and they are nice dogs. I don't believe they have been around long enough to be called a breed. I think most are still first generation crosses, which means mutt or crossbreed. Owners seemed really pleased. I don't know if they hunt at all, but you would think that if both parents did, the pups would have some drive and ability. Expensive.

The upland or versatile breed you are thinking of may be the spinone. A really shaggy griffon might also resemble a doodle.

I think it was maybe a griffon. I will look one up . The spinone I think is a smaller dog.

Spinone looked close also.

Spinoni are big dogs. Griffs are the smaller of the two.

DougB wrote:Seen them, and they are nice dogs. I don't believe they have been around long enough to be called a breed. I think most are still first generation crosses, which means mutt or crossbreed. Owners seemed really pleased. I don't know if they hunt at all, but you would think that if both parents did, the pups would have some drive and ability. Expensive.

Actually they have been around for several years. The second generation dogs do not shed. My folks have a second generation dog that is 6 years old. Very smart and loyal dogs. There is also a puddlepointer being bred. I have never seen one, but I am sure they look alot alike.

A lighter colored pudlepointer does resemble.

cstokes/southeast,ks wrote:

DougB wrote:Seen them, and they are nice dogs. I don't believe they have been around long enough to be called a breed. I think most are still first generation crosses, which means mutt or crossbreed. Owners seemed really pleased. I don't know if they hunt at all, but you would think that if both parents did, the pups would have some drive and ability. Expensive.

Actually they have been around for several years. The second generation dogs do not shed. My folks have a second generation dog that is 6 years old. Very smart and loyal dogs. There is also a puddlepointer being bred. I have never seen one, but I am sure they look alot alike.

Labradoodle is a mutt bred generally by folks trying to make money. The Pudelpointer is an actual breed with a standard and a "type",

Actually they have been around for several years. The second generation dogs do not shed. My folks have a second generation dog that is 6 years old. Very smart and loyal dogs. There is also a puddlepointer being bred. I have never seen one, but I am sure they look alot alike.

your kidding right. The Pudelpointer is not some dreamt up dog from some dog financier trying to make a quick buck. It has as long of a history as a lot of other breeds and was the foundation breed for the Drahthaar.

The dog in question is this:

bwjohn wrote:

Actually they have been around for several years. The second generation dogs do not shed. My folks have a second generation dog that is 6 years old. Very smart and loyal dogs. There is also a puddlepointer being bred. I have never seen one, but I am sure they look alot alike.

your kidding right. The Pudelpointer is not some dreamt up dog from some dog financier trying to make a quick buck. It has as long of a history as a lot of other breeds and was the foundation breed for the Drahthaar.

The dog in question is this:

Im guessing you quoted the wrong post because my post certainly did not imply any of that.....

I am not the only one that got the same meaning out of the statement.

brandon

Yeah I was confused with the spelling combined with the fact that they are very different dogs despite the similar names. The pudelpointer was a breed created in the 17th century by taking German hunting pudels and crossing them to english pointers. Since the pudel hair gene is so dominate, they only use about 10 pudels to every 90 pointers in the breeding program until they got what they were looking for....since then there has not been any poodle or pudel added into the lines so the result of buying a pudelpointer in hopes of getting a dog like a labradoodle would be a dog you weren't expecting. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if you could find a pointer poodle cross that would in fact be a poodlepointer and I'd bet that dog would be fairly similar to a labradoodle.

Max2 wrote:I think it was maybe a griffon. I will look one up . The spinone I think is a smaller dog.

Spinone males go up to 27 inches and 90 - 100lbs, like mine. They also come in White & Orange. There are quite a few Spins in your area so maybe that is what you saw.

It's not a member of the Sporting Group, but I've always thought Labradoodles favored Otterhounds.


This is a Labradoodle.


This is an Otterhound.

Stoneface wrote:It's not a member of the Sporting Group, but I've always thought Labradoodles favored Otterhounds.


This is a Labradoodle.


This is an Otterhound.

Yes, and there are only a few hundred left. Nice breed soon to be gone.

mcbosco wrote:[Yes, and there are only a few hundred left. Nice breed soon to be gone.

The first part is correct. The second sentence is not. Thank goodness for dedicated show people, who preserve many breeds with great care and at great personal cost that otherwise would not be seen again. The three-toed snail darter can go extinct for all I care. But I'd sure miss the otterhound. Breed clubs are the strong guardians of many fine breeds.,

mcbosco wrote:

Max2 wrote:I think it was maybe a griffon. I will look one up . The spinone I think is a smaller dog.

Spinone males go up to 27 inches and 90 - 100lbs, like mine. They also come in White & Orange. There are quite a few Spins in your area so maybe that is what you saw.

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mcbosco I spoke with the dog owners & they were the ones that told me they were labradoodles. I have never seen a spinone in my area. I see more labs then any other dog around here. I learned of the spinone on one of the animal channels on tv a while back.Looked like a nice dog. I see your from NJ we relocated here from NJ a number of yrs ago.( Bergen County) It's funny as much bird hunting as I do here I never see another bird hunter.
The otterhound is another one that resembles them.

bwjohn - Great lookin' PP!!!

Labradoodles are a designer crossbreed bred for the most part to supply soccer moms with a non-shedding, happy family dog with the "exclusive" factor. As far as type, they are all over the map....some hunge some small, with lots of coat, some with very little, etc. Over the year, I have run into an unusally large number of owners of these designer breeds that have had major health concerns.....knee ruptures, hip problems, allergies, hormonal disturbances that have been extremely costly. My impression is that the great majority of these dogs are being bred in the backyard from unknown, unqualified dogs for LOTS of money....but you get to pay for 'the rest of the story" after you have bought the dog.

The funny thing about labradoodles is they are advertised as non shedding...but when " breeders" advertise non shedding they are either ignorant or unscrupulous or both, all dogs shed to some exten for one, second it would take several generations to "set" one coat type in this mutt. I am always surprised that people fall for this "pitch".