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bwjohn

I use cheap yarn to tether the bird to the trap or even a bush if not using traps. use only on dogs that you feel are either broke or very close to being broke. it is used in my opinion to really put a lot of pressure on the dog to stand still. you can also tie a small piece of cardboard onto the bi...

bwjohn

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bwjohn

knine, i do not know if restraining the dog into a point is the best way to go? that is the way I read the post.

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bwjohn

Petter, welcome.

if you have the time, I know that you are getting close to hunting season, but I would love to see some of the pics of the birds you hunt. Is the grouse a ruff grouse? I think I have seen pics of the black grouse not for sure.

good luck on the upcoming season,
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bwjohn

does he road in on the bird? does it look like he has scent before he points or is it all at once he locks up? launchers can help in this situation or really good flying birds or even wild birds if you have some quail around you to train on. as soon as it looks like he has scent, you could pop the b...

bwjohn

I do not know most people's protocol, but when ff my vizsla, after each training session I just play fetch with him and have fun. My dog has a pretty good fetch drive anyway, I just want it to be 100%. But I find that it really keeps his attitude up to just play with him at the end of each session. ...

bwjohn

the tv show is nice as well, my wife subscribes to the magazine and they have an online membership as well. If you are really into those kinds of things there is also an app for phones and etc. that is really cool. according to the atk folks, the fuel last quite a while and you do not have to check ...

bwjohn

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when it comes to food, I always trust them.

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bwjohn

do an internet search, but pretty sure dogs are not suppose to have acorns! just a heads up.

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bwjohn

do you do well in that area hunting. My uncle struggles a little bit in Claiborne. does most of his hunting in sw va, i always managed to push a few birds every year while squirrel or rabbit hunting. not a lot around though. my uncle raises a lot of birds if you ever need some, let me know and I can...

bwjohn

off, of I75, 63 or 33?

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bwjohn

welcome!

what part of east tn? I am originally from southwest va. spent a lot of time in east tn fishing and traveling. Have an uncle that lives in east tn.

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bwjohn

i just let my dog hunt, doesn't matter. Sometimes he has been out of sight and out of bell sound for a while and sometimes he is easily within sight. I am very confident in him holding his birds and if he moves the bird is either moved on or he pointed old scent. I think that it all depends on the d...

bwjohn

beautiful part of the country, did some fly fishing in that area a few years back. I am originally from VA.

one of these days I will get back to that area.

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bwjohn

talk with your trainer and see how he did things. You should be able to correct your dog once the bird flies away, NOT before the bird gets up.

He will eventually learn to give the birds enough room, but at this point you do not want him to chase. So, correct him on the chase.

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bwjohn

he will learn the distance that he can get away from ruffs. it will take a little time.

is he chasing birds after he flushes them?

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bwjohn

clubs are a great way to go, a lot of people trying to figure it all out and help each other. If you find a good club they are golden. as far as trainers, i know that Bill Gibbons runs a summer camp up in the white mtns., I believe north and a little east of phoenix. You can contact him and see what...

bwjohn

the issue now is that he blinks birds. got to fix that before you ever worry about the dog eating a bird. I have seen people go all the way back to a puppy introduction. get a bird put it in front of the dog with flight feathers pulled and let him have at. He has got to get his confidence back and l...

bwjohn

you could really put down any breed, b/c it just depends on if a dog has been raised on hunting the "eastern" ruffed grouse. I say eastern b/c since I have moved out west I have found that the birds here are really stupid, almost as bad as pen raised birds. But any breed can make a really good ruffe...

bwjohn

made the move last year from the east coast to out west and I am loving the opportunities hunting wise.

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bwjohn

that is a really tough question.

my suggestion is to find a trainer close to you that can mentor you and go with their method. You may have to visit with a few people, even if they are a couple hour drive for you, I think that it would be well worth your time.

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bwjohn

this situation is what the ecollar is for. Think of it as a reminder to your dog to listen to the command. Dogs loose focus, so the ecollar gives them a little stimulus, cue or conditioned response to help them remember their training. if the shock is what you are worried about, you can use incredib...

bwjohn

wish i could get the acana sport and agility here in the US, they do not export it to here. have to buy it in CA.

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bwjohn

champion foods also makes a brand called Acana that is around 33/18 and quite a bit cheaper. I have had great results with it, highly recommend it.

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bwjohn

welcome

bwjohn

walnut hill kennels in no ga is a couple of hours away, not sure if that is to far from you or not.

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bwjohn

by close to the launchers, I mean an yard or two. i have actually seen some dogs get hit with a bird out of a launcher, not what you want to happen. I would launch as soon as you can tell the bird has scent, just have to know your dog a little bit for that. I wouldn't use whoa, let the dog establish...

bwjohn

launchers are a great aid for training. never let the dog get right over top of the launchers, can really scare your dog. as far as setting them apart from each other, it depends. I generally set mine far enough apart so that the dog will calm down a little bit and start really hunting again, so it ...

bwjohn

don't know much about that area of co. But west of there in Utah you can get into some decent blue and ruff grouse. also some parts of so. ut you can get into some quail. probably north of there, near wy, you could get into some sage grouse. there is a sage grouse draw area in utah not far from 70. ...

bwjohn

use to live and hunt in Vermont, all along the canadian border. I would be partial to Muck Boots in that area, at least the kinds of areas that I hunted in. I now live out west and use a pair of Miendl's alaskan hunter, that they make for cabelas. But really with boots, I think it is very important ...

bwjohn

Pudel pointer, drahtharr or german wirehair pointer, probably in that order. lot of natural retrieve there, can handle cold climates and hunt any animal that you may come across that we do not know about. maybe something like the little fellow below, they grow up so fast. brandon DSC_0046.JPG.jpg DS...

bwjohn

Hope the owner of the dog or photo don't mind me reposting.

don't know how anyone could be upset showing off that beautiful animal.

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bwjohn

ray, I am talking more or less about the dog that spends the majority if its life with a pro trainer, we all know that there are plenty of dogs out there that do this. Not necessarily the dog that spends a month to get FF or the dog that has the conditioning done for a month or so before trial seaso...

bwjohn

I know that it can be done, an amt. getting the title on both sides. But, Ken, I think that you are in the minority.

The distinction of the handler and not the trainer just seems to be off to me.

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bwjohn

I understand that, amt. can handle a dog that has been professionally trained. That was part of my point, maybe I did not make it clear. I was referring to the dog that spends most of its life with a trainer until it wins its FC, maybe 3/4 years or more and the second that it is done or even during ...

bwjohn

First let me preface this with I do not trial, I attend a half a dozen or more a year and work most of those trials. I hang out with bird dog people so when someone ask me to help with the trial I am more than happy to help. But all of this has got me thinking about a couple of things in the Trial w...

bwjohn

looks like my wife is wanting a gordon for the next dog, I am good with that

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bwjohn

joe i have no argument with the number of titles, someone else brought that into the picture. if you read my last post I congratulated you for your dogs and the work that you had dedicated to your pursuits. I never second guest your accomplishments or your dogs. I am sure that I would be quite impre...

bwjohn

haven't won any and do not plan on it. Don't compete in trials or any other games as far as that goes. I just find it extremely rude to demean an accomplishment of someone else's hard work, just b/c it is not up to your standards. I am glad for Joe and the work and commitment that he has made to the...

bwjohn

so, jim if winning Nat. Championships is the only thing that counts as having a good dog, how many National Championships have you won?

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bwjohn

I agree, that all of the comments that question the dogs ability or the fact that he received a FC as uncalled for. It is not everyones goal or desire to send a dog off and have it campaigned all over the country to get a title. A lot of people enjoy playing this game and love going out to a weekend...

bwjohn

look for other kinds of groups, even other breed groups. Most people really don't care if you have different dog from them. look to find any group that you can, do not just limit your self to NAVDHA.

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bwjohn

good to hear, i just bought 2 yesterday.

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bwjohn

pretty sure that VA, TN and KY are part of the south. Also, pretty sure that MD is below the Mason Dixon Line.

To answer your question VT/NH, along the border in the Northern half of those states.

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bwjohn

the problem is not when we are gone, just when she is getting ready.

Also, the above schedule is only on M, T and TH. Wed and Fri. my wife is at home.

not our first bird dog, but the others have been no where near as vocal.

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bwjohn

He will be 7 months tomorrow. He can be quite calm in other situations. For example, we have them stand still before they get there food. Both dogs stand 3 feet or so away from their dog bowls and wait to be released before they eat. Same thing when entering the house or even getting out of the kenn...

bwjohn

he is a PP we live in a townhome that has two others attached. Small yard in the back. But he stays in a cratel, inside the house. I let him out and run him around the yard a little bit before I go. I do use the kong at night, to calm him down for a half hour or so. But can not give him a kong 3 or ...

bwjohn

Wondering if any of you use a bark collar on any of your dogs? I have a young puppy that goes crazy in the morning when I leave for work, which I leave quite a bit earlier than my wife, and my wife is worried about bothering the neighbors. so the real question is, do you think that using a bark coll...

bwjohn

with bob's like that in Alabama, I might be looking to relocate!

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bwjohn

Josh McPherson has a litter of V's on the ground right now in Salt Lake Ut (close by anyway). Seen the mother work many times and is a great dog. Josh has a couple of really successful V's in Field Trials. His dogs will be great hunters and now how to handle this land out west. If interested pm me a...

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