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Dave Quindt

Guys - I am a pointer guy, so bear with me on this one. I am a bit perplexed. I do not understand why one would want to test a retrieving dog for field work. Retrievers are supposed to retrieve. At least that is what I thought the breed was designed for. pointers point, spaniels flush and retriever...

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In the AKC, the hunt test is actually considered an acknowledgement, not a title because it is pass/fail, not competitive. Greg, That's not true. Hunt test titles are "titles" just like field trial titles are. Because they are earned via non-competitive events they are suffix titles; titles printed...

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No, not having an upland dog retrieve in an upland trial is the equivalent of not having a retriever in a retriever trial find and flush the bird before it is shot for the mark and retrieve. Kind of ridiculous to be testing those retrievers on only half the job isn't it? Must be because retriever t...

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TAK wrote:GPblitz.... your Heartbreaker pup is a good lookin little dude!!!!! Nice ped also..... One heck of an example of linebreeding/in-breeding don't ya say?

The pup is the product of a complete outcross!

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This is some thread, I don’t know of any father-daughter or mother-son that has really produced, most pups either went as pets or put down, and I do know of a number that have tried it with little or no success, personally although I do believe that you should always breed to improve, I morally wou...

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...........linebreeding has produced some of the finest pointing dogs inthe country I want to go back and revisit this, because this is something that gets tossed around way too much IMO. I have yet to see a litter of excellent dogs produced by breeding two closely related average or sub-par dogs. ...

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Robbi,

Who won the Amateur?

Thanks,
Dave

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Stedy to shot or steady to flush ? Which is better in your opinion ? Break them all the way to wing and shot, keep them that way for a year and then decide what you want to do. Even if you decide you want the dog to break at the shot later on, you will end up with a better dog by breaking them all ...

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Yah, I figured that about the monoblock, but thought the difference in the barrels would be enough for it to come out in the wash or at least not be *several* ounces heavier. A used Red Label might be a good solution for our poster. The few that I've had in my hands felt good. They were stocked low...

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[quote="Greg Jennings Well, that's very probably the pure truth. I don't know beans about the ~ $500 market. I did do some looking around and didn't find anything that would say different. I even found some that the specs said were *several* ounces heavier than 20.[/quote] Greg, A 28 gauge on a 20 g...

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Where exactly does everyone draw the line between "in-breeding " and "line-breeding" ?? Ask 10 dog breeders that question and you'll get at least 11 answers. Talk to a geneticist and you will find that line-breeding is not a term they use. To them, it's all inbreeding; it's just a matter of degree....

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20 vs 28 weight depends if they were built on the same frame or not. The 28 can be built on a small frame and be proportionally lighter than the 20. True, except no one makes a 28 gauge gun on a 28 gauge frame in the sub $1500 market, much less the $500 market the original poster mentions. FWIW, Dave

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You can go online at akc.org, go into their online store, and get a record of all the dog's wins, which includes the name of the club and the stake. It will tell you if they were walking trials or not, and if you know clubs and the style of trial they like to run, you will know that by the club nam...

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Anaconda Pintler wrote:Where is this trial going to be at?

Pinckneyville, IL; 75 miles SE of St Louis.

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Holy Cow you guys vaccinate a whole lot more and earlier than I do!! The newer research (actually a couple of years old) from Ronald Schultz ......... Want to get a Southern WI/Northern IL vet with 15+ years of working experience, especially those with experience in field/hunting/performance dogs, ...

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Open to GSPs, GWPs, Vizlsas and Weims. Yesssss!! Always one of my favorite threads of the year because, even though I try not to, I still always have to ask...why is it called the All Breed? First of all, the trial is not formally called the "all breed". Second, was my answer from last year not suf...

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Order of stakes: OSD OAA ASD Derby Classic Qualifications: For broke dogs stakes any placement in an AF or AKC broke dog stake, or a derby win. Amateur handler required for amateur championship qualification. Derby Classic for dogs born after 1/1/08. Open to GSPs, GWPs, Vizlsas and Weims. NGSPA Regi...

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It's too cold, without any doubt. When the retriever pros come back north in the spring, they usually wait until the water is at least 50* before putting adult dogs in it. Even then, they wait until it's warmer before putting pups in. As a matter of perspective, my GSP pro who is in TX right now won...

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Joe, Don't forget on the Brittany side you can put an FC on your dog by winning nothing BUT championships. In fact, you can put an FC on your dog by winning NOTHING BUT WILD BIRD championships. Don't know how often it happens, but it's possible. As we both know, it's not possible on the GSP side; we...

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If at all possible, run your test as either a single course, or continuous course, with no bird field. I don't know what's traditional in Florida, but in much of the midwest and Great Lakes most HTs are run as a single course WITH bird field. Bird fields are a pain in the a** and can drive down the ...

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All i'm asking is, IN WHAT EVER VENUE YOU RUN, NFC or consistant FC. Neither; I want the consistent producer. That's the beauty of it all; I don't have to choose from two dogs. One of the hottest, and most proven, sires in the GSP trial game over the last decade was an untitled dog who was never fi...

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Vagas, I think the premise of your question is part of the problem. "Question for AKC guys" suggests that somehow the registry used impacts the approach to breeding. It doesn't. People are people, regardless of which registry they use. The folks breeding FT retrievers, which is a pure AKC game, take...

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Joy Clay had a B&W dog that Ed Hart placed 4th at Eureka in the futurity, in 2002. When I got started in trialing, there was talk of a black GSP on the east coast in the early 90's that had either finished their FC and then was killed in an accident soon after, or was on the verge of finishing. No o...

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We can't get any of the other eligible breeds to run the NGPDA "All German Breed" and that's a national championship. I understand your question Vern, but I just don't see the interest. We're having enough trouble getting a championship done in 5 days, between 2 AKC trials that at many trials we've ...

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I virtually never get into discussions about food, but this is too much to pass up. Science Diet is a food marketed to vets, as they can buy it at a pretty good rate and sell it with a healthy profit margin. This has been the Science Diet marketing approach; get vets to carry it and push it to the c...

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What Diamond formula were you feeding before, what Science Diet formula did the vet recommend, and does the vet sell Science Diet there at the clinic?

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.................., AKC dogs cannot be registered with the FCI. Andy, That's not completely true. If the FCI-approved breed club decides to allow a dog in, then the FCI will recognize it. When the DK club got started here in the US, the the DKV (the German breed club) allowed the offspring of a few...

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Perfectly allowed and common. The only time it can get tricky is if two non-AKC registered DKs are bred in the US, and then someone tries to register the offspring with the AKC. DK folks here in the US are aware of this, and have some sort of alternate method (I believe through NAVHDA or FDSB) to ge...

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I have heard that pups from repeat breedings have not been as nice as pups from the original breeding. I am sure this is not the case every time, just what I have heard from trialers. They may be right, but they are probably also wrong as well! Here's the way I look at it, based on some reading I'v...

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Rich Heaton wrote: You didn't mention the top two setter guys in the country? Robertson Kennels and Smith Setters would be my first choice.

How are they are any more proven than Grouse Ridge Kennels?

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A reproduction specialist (I would have to look in my records to tell you who it was) gave a talk at a Canine Health Foundation meeting two years ago and she said that the very best practice would be to breed a bitch every cycle after 2 yrs of age for 5 or so litters, and then spay her. The reason ...

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Randy, To answer the last question, there is no reason not to kill a few birds over your unbroke dogs. If they hold point until you get there, great, but even if they point and then take the bird out it's ok to kill a few for them. You want them to begin to understand that their job is to find, poin...

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I have long been a believer in FF. I have never done it though. I have always paid a trainer to do it. I have dipped my toe into a new breed, a GSP and it has been my intention to do the FF myself this time. I thought I'd buy SmartFetch and give it a try. A few weeks ago I read on one of the boards...

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The bigger reason that everyone shoots an O/U in competition is the less complicated sight plane. But why is a "less complicated" sight plane (not sure I agree with that phrase, but ok) of value? It's because in shotgun shooting competitions, the shotgun is aimed like a rifle far more than live gam...

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You can get a very nice GSP or GWP in the $450-$650 range. Any of the niche continental stuff (DD, DK, Pudelpointers, Munsterlanders, Braques, etc) are often going to have some unusually high prices; sometimes justified, sometimes not. If you are set on spending a certain amount, and that's on the l...

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IMO they are obsolete in the era of the web. Information about areas to hunt is too general to be of much help. Information about where to stay, eat, etc was out of date the day the ink hit the paper.

An hour or two using Google can get you more detailed, and accurate, information.

JMO,
Dave

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Open the classifieds from any metro newspaper and see what the backyard-bred sporting dogs are going for. "Good hunter bred to good hunter, with 11 FCs in the pedigree" can get $400+ easy. That's without any health clearances, and often with a breeder with no little meaningful experience in the bree...

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There isn't an FC on that 5 gen pedigree. Doesn't mean you couldn't put an FC on him; just means you'd be pretty rare company. In fact, you might be the first in 50 years.

Curious as to why you think he is "DC quality"?

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Whateve r. You apparently have more experience with dogs than I do. I probably don't, but the guys I do know that have more experience than you don't seem to have a huge problem training pointing dogs to handle. You seem to want to believe that if you can't do it, it can't be done. Like I said, the...

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Dave, what I said is that there was darn few that could go through it. When you get to the T's and Double T's, they lose all interest and begin to lackadaisically, trot. Virtually EVERY lab easily goes through this training. It's rare a pointing dog can. Yes, there are a few but it certainly isn't ...

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The pointing dog breeds I've seen that would handle like a Lab I could easily count on one hand. I have NEVER seen a GSP that could even approach a lab in handling ability. Then you've not seen what someone with experience in both pointer and retriever training can do with a well-bred GSP. I've see...

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To answer the original question, IMO the SKB action is as strong & the overall mechanical design is as sound as any of the other guns you mention. For a hunter, or casual clays shooter, all will outlast the shooter. For the volume shooter, the Beretta leads the class not because the action is necess...

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In the training program I use, 8 months is perfectly normal. I've probably seen a couple hundred dogs FF'ed between 6 and 12 months. Having seen it done the other way, I'd never break a dog out without FF'ing them first. Makes things so much easier as the dog learns how to handle pressure, all while...

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Dogs that freeze up are not uncommon. This is where having a talented, experienced pro has all of its benefits as they can read the dog well enough to know whether the dog is just being stubborn or is really mentally shutting down; and there is a big difference. Without knowing the pro and his techn...

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Gordon Guy, I'm glad you liked your Limited Gun Dog Walking Stakes, but here is a link to the AKC and what it takes to win a FC. Points awarded in walking stakes only count in puppy or derby. To win a FC, it's a horseback trial, and it takes a much bigger run. You know not of what you speak. Check ...

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I was wondering what you guys think is the best of the lesser known breeds in the field. pudelpointer red setter wiredhaired griffon small and large munsterlander gordon setter french britt i know i'm missing some but you guys should get the idea The obvious question is "best for what?" I've had th...

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Yes it was about the time we started running the heater. I suppose you're curious about why I asked that question, huh? Last year in late October, my then-10 y.o. GSP came down with some weird coughing/gagging episodes. Started with a slight cough in the morning, but as we got into November, over a...

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Any chance this started roughly about the same time you started running the furnance for the season?

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birddog1968 wrote:Mud river makes a nice cover.

I bought a Mud River cover this fall and am VERY happy with it.

FWIW,
Dave

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I've been in your shoes; bought every video and book, and yet they never showed how to fix the problems I was having. Throw the Wolters book away and don't waste your money on videos (at this point). Go find a good gundog pro who can help you expose your dog to enough birds to develop it's hunting i...

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