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- Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:46 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: For hard to keep dogs.
- Replies: 131
- Views: 28558
Re: For hard to keep dogs.
My guess is the test they did was based on dogs fed pro plan. They probabally do replace their glycogen faster in dogs they are conditioned to that type of diet. ...What helps a dog the most is to be efficient at burning fat, and to transition over rapidly when glycogen is depleted. All calories th...
- Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:54 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Fitness and endurance
- Replies: 17
- Views: 4912
Re: Fitness and endurance
I make a point of letting my Spinone play with smaller, faster dogs when ever I can, which is often. Border Collies and Jack Russells give the best workout, so much spirit, speed and stamina. And he works really hard, long runs and quick moves. And which dogs aren't faster than Spinone's? :? At ris...
- Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:53 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Critiquing The Delmar Smith Method
- Replies: 95
- Views: 47153
Re: Critiquing The Delmar Smith Method
That fellow must have been looking for Paul Long's "Training Pointing Dogs": more training packed into a little $9.95 paperback than most three other training volumes, if memory serves.
- Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:48 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Fitness and endurance
- Replies: 17
- Views: 4912
Re: Fitness and endurance
RayG, how do you get them to run on a belt? Mine won't pull on my leash as I've taught him that when walking, he can't pull. He stays in heel position the whole time, unless I say something. I'm not Ray, but my pups are taught very early on that they are never going to make an inch of headway on a ...
- Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:27 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: For hard to keep dogs.
- Replies: 131
- Views: 28558
Re: For hard to keep dogs.
There it is again! Your keen understanding of maltodexrin's application brought a grin. Thanks! I would like to be educated on the subject, please share with me the benefits of maltodextrin. Here's a link that includes a more authoritative explanation than mine, beginning about half way down the pa...
- Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:03 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: For hard to keep dogs.
- Replies: 131
- Views: 28558
Re: For hard to keep dogs.
There it is again! Your keen understanding of maltodexrin's application brought a grin. Thanks!
- Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:59 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: For hard to keep dogs.
- Replies: 131
- Views: 28558
Re: For hard to keep dogs.
Takes a mighty deep thinker to have read that comparison as a nutritional one. But that's the level that's made this thread such an entertaining one.mcbosco wrote:brdhntr,
a guy up above compared a meat covered raw bone to a candy bar, that's what you are dealing with.
sal
- Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:33 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Fitness and endurance
- Replies: 17
- Views: 4912
Re: Fitness and endurance
Roading harnesses are pretty cheap, and that plus a little rope and chunk of broomstick for a handle is "roading gear". Leave the roller blades at home, and let pup pull against the resistance of your walking pace. Be good for you, too. As we've no natural rock to help toughen pads down here, we do ...
- Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:51 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: For hard to keep dogs.
- Replies: 131
- Views: 28558
Re: For hard to keep dogs.
But what of the toxins in the fish oil??? (And so on and on and on...)
- Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:39 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: For hard to keep dogs.
- Replies: 131
- Views: 28558
Re: For hard to keep dogs.
What about the cholesterol???fordman wrote:my dogs like steak medium rare and eggs over medium, that sounds good for me too.
- Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:37 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: steady training
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1772
Re: steady training
Sure "whoa" is an OB command, and if well taught, it's also a fine way to help Pup understand that he's expected to hold his ground after point's been established. And an invisible check chord for times when Pup forgets that lesson. Never using it as such strikes me as a foolish waste of a mighty us...
- Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:22 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Critiquing The Delmar Smith Method
- Replies: 95
- Views: 47153
Re: Critiquing The Delmar Smith Method
Needn't be either-or, just compartmentalize and do both. Train here, develop independent search there. Early training of manners may, in fact, afford a pup greater latitude to develop its independent search, as there are apt to be any number of locations where a pup with good OB can enjoy largely fr...
- Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:08 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: For hard to keep dogs.
- Replies: 131
- Views: 28558
Re: For hard to keep dogs.
She seems a nice lady who means well. And if producing dogs that can make it around a show ring is evidence of expertise, just think what might be gained by emulating the feeding practices of those producing trial winners and commercially worked gun dogs...
- Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:21 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Pigeon Coop & other somewhat related ?'s
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1757
Re: Pigeon Coop & other somewhat related ?'s
Heat is an issue here in the South, and the Louisiana lofts I've seen have all been much more open than those in the North. Here is a photo of the relatively small one (my third) I've settled on: http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/RickHall/FH000010_edited.jpg I have both a pointing dog and a retr...
- Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:20 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Critiquing The Delmar Smith Method
- Replies: 95
- Views: 47153
Re: Critiquing The Delmar Smith Method
That's certainly how I read it, Ezzy.
- Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:17 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: bird launchers
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1455
Re: bird launchers
Might want to try this baby sock blindfold on a string trick before investing in a manual launcher:
Much cheaper and handier.
Much cheaper and handier.
- Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:13 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Home made bird release.
- Replies: 8
- Views: 4502
Re: Home made bird release.
Makes mine look mighty unsophisticated:
But can you stuff a half dozen or so of them in a jeans' pocket?
But can you stuff a half dozen or so of them in a jeans' pocket?
- Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:24 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Critiquing The Delmar Smith Method
- Replies: 95
- Views: 47153
Re: Critiquing The Delmar Smith Method
And the biggest advantage amateurs have over a pro is the time they can spend rubbing on the dog. It is a little known fact that nearly all of the great field trial dogs were "truck" dogs, if not house dogs. I wish I had the memory to properly attribute the quote I came across in the "way back when...
- Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:27 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Finest living writers in our world
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2719
Re: Finest living writers in our world
When I mention that I once wrote some for what was then known as "the big three" outdoors magazines, no one ever asks if I know or knew anyone but McManus.BAYDOG wrote:Man any time I can catch a Pat Mcmanus story, I can never put him down.
(And, no, I don't.)
- Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:34 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Critiquing The Delmar Smith Method
- Replies: 95
- Views: 47153
Re: Critiquing The Delmar Smith Method
Neil, I haven't forgotten your saying something along the lines of "Kie will forgive you." with reference to what you thought the pressure I was putting on him with early training some dozen years ago. And I'll admit I was initially shocked and perhaps even hurt by the assumption of one who's opinio...
- Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:16 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Critiquing The Delmar Smith Method
- Replies: 95
- Views: 47153
Re: Critiquing The Delmar Smith Method
I suspect most such problems arise when folks try to use tactics developed for older dogs on young pups, instead of puppy-oriented tactics. Smith's methods for older dogs may have been gentler than some others, but some of them might still crush or traumatize a young pup.
- Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:51 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Critiquing The Delmar Smith Method
- Replies: 95
- Views: 47153
Re: Critiquing The Delmar Smith Method
If I have one critique, it's that of not doing anything with the dog the whole first year. The concept in the book was "let the dog have his fun" then turn him into a worker later on. I can appreciate letting a dog be a puppy, exploring, growing, etc. I'm wondering if there are any further thoughts...
- Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:32 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: How much do you feed during hunting season?
- Replies: 22
- Views: 10922
Re: How much do you feed during hunting season?
My bad. Carbo Gain is, in fact, the maltodextrin source we are now using.djswizz wrote:It's called Carbo Gain. NOT Carbo charge, FYI. Thought I'd clear that up. My dog did GREAT on the stuff last hunting season. Will be using it again this year.
- Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:24 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: How much do you feed during hunting season?
- Replies: 22
- Views: 10922
Re: How much do you feed during hunting season?
Some of you guys really give your dogs Maltodextrin? Better quality protein and fat coupled with a little extra Complex Carbs on a consistent basis would be a better idea if your training is that hard. Maltodextrin sounds like the express train to diabetes... If your dog is in shape, does it really...
- Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:00 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: dove season
- Replies: 9
- Views: 4527
Re: dove season
I can't recall the scientific name for the phenomenon, but doves may essentially release their feathers when shot, and dogs retrieving them often have a mouthful of loose feathers to contend with. Those feathers are bothersome to a dog and tend to cause mouthing of the birds, which too often leads t...
- Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:25 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: New Pigeon Loft
- Replies: 8
- Views: 7103
Re: New Pigeon Loft
Giving my birds a place like that to stand and work at the trap bobs from the inside would be like giving them a "get out of jail free" card. I've even had to bevel the bottom of the trap frame to keep the smart ones from getting enough toe-hold to hang onto while they flip a bob up with their heads...
- Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:56 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: How much protein is too much
- Replies: 103
- Views: 25432
Re: How much protein is too much
Ezzy, that article has been making the food board rounds for some time - but this thread suggests that another pass couldn't hurt.
- Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:15 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: How much protein is too much
- Replies: 103
- Views: 25432
Re: How much protein is too much
Bosco, I did, in fact, waste the time it took to read the post in question and know what you wrote. I also wasted the time it took to read this lastest post and find it more unrelated fluff and conjecture, rather than an answer to what I thought a simple question. Now I'm going to finish this cup of...
- Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:51 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: How much protein is too much
- Replies: 103
- Views: 25432
Re: How much protein is too much
First it was an expert you'd hired to check out two companies, one that was new and another that got into recall trouble. Neither of which could be PP. Now it's a friend specifically citing PP as a worst offender that's feeding you support for your little agenda. And assuming either exists, we've st...
- Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:28 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: How much protein is too much
- Replies: 103
- Views: 25432
Re: How much protein is too much
Bosco, I couldn't help but notice that with all that fluff you didn't answer my question, as it obviously wasn't Pro Plan your company's men looked into. So what you claim to "know for a fact" apparently remains conjecture based on how some other companies operate. And you are welcome to that belief...
- Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:00 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: How much protein is too much
- Replies: 103
- Views: 25432
Re: How much protein is too much
Bosco, do you have evidence that chicken is not the number one ingredient in Pro Plan performance "as fed"? Or are you just parroting those so-called dog food analysis sites that assume it's only pre-processing weight, based on the worst case allowed by labeling law, rather than actual practice? I ...
- Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:57 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: How much protein is too much
- Replies: 103
- Views: 25432
Re: How much protein is too much
Mike, here's an article that speaks to your question: http://www.purinaproclub.com/sportingdo ... eeding.htm
- Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:09 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: How much protein is too much
- Replies: 103
- Views: 25432
Re: How much protein is too much
Bosco, do you have evidence that chicken is not the number one ingredient in Pro Plan performance "as fed"? Or are you just parroting those so-called dog food analysis sites that assume it's only pre-processing weight, based on the worst case allowed by labeling law, rather than actual practice? I a...
- Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:06 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Diamond dog food
- Replies: 32
- Views: 10683
Re: Diamond dog food
My experience with Diamond and PP's performance (and LB puppy) formulas was exactly the opposite. Different dogs...
- Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:21 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Purina spoof
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1236
Re: Purina spoof
Certainly makes you wonder who or what is editing the American Hunter site.
- Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:14 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Purina One
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3298
Re: Purina One
White-faced, but no one could guess his age.Shadow wrote:HELLO Rick - Kie doing quite well is he
- Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:32 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Arkat Feed?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3393
Re: Arkat Feed?
I've tried everything listed, or something close by the same makers, and the dogs they were fed to did better on something else. But the Arkat wasn't available in my area's stores, and they were great about shipping a couple individual bags directly to me for what I thought a reasonable price. So yo...
- Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:24 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Heartworms/Worms Question
- Replies: 21
- Views: 7544
Re: Heartworms/Worms Question
Here's a link to a discussion by veterinarians on a sled dog board that covers everything one's apt to want to know about worm treatment (and likely more): http://www.sleddogcentral.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3656&whichpage=4 Most, if not all, of the questions on this thread are answered on the pa...
- Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:16 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Purina One
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3298
Re: Purina One
After too much experimentation, we've settled on PO large breed puppy formula (essentially same as PP's) for the retriever pups and PO chicken and rice 26/16 as an adult maintenance feed for everything. The 12yr-old Brittany was switched to PO "Vibrant Maturity" 28/12 a few months ago (to help compe...
- Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:02 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Left coop door open and dog killed some birds
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2905
Re: Left coop door open and dog killed some birds
Bury your tin predator guard with the underground portion bent to angle out. Varmits will dig a long way straight down to get under such an obstacle but won't back up to to so. Might also want to install crosswise barriers inside the pen that are short enough for you to step over but tall enough tha...
- Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:42 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Left coop door open and dog killed some birds
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2905
Re: Left coop door open and dog killed some birds
Just put a heavy spring on the loft door and move on. Even if it was your young dog, nothing's happened training can't conpensate for.
- Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:37 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Devil Pigeon?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3315
Re: Devil Pigeon?
Had one that would beat up his daddy: first to sit on his parents' eggs, then to mate with his mother. He's gone.
We've the usual territorial squabbles that go with loft life, but really disruptive birds are shot.
We've the usual territorial squabbles that go with loft life, but really disruptive birds are shot.
- Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:08 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Where to buy bird transport cages?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 5783
Re: Where to buy bird transport cages?
I'd suggest not fooling with a poultry crate for pigeon work, as they're a pain in the butt. We've a number of them for transporting large numbers of game birds to our preserve fields, but they're cumbersome to handle and require an additional ground cloth or feed sacks or some-such under them, if y...
- Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:17 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: shedding
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1206
Re: shedding
I've never had a pup neutered or sedated, but they've all shed.
- Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:07 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Mar's Coat King
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2685
Re: Mar's Coat King
Thanks for satisfying my curiosity, Ezzy. The Mars Coat King is what I think of as a cutting rake, as its blades are sharpened for that apparent purpose. I've used a #12 (12 blades) for some years now to thin the Britt's feathering to discourage burr gathering and used it to thin everything's coats ...
- Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:51 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Need New Dog Food
- Replies: 98
- Views: 25270
Re: Need New Dog Food
Ron's "fact" points up another problem with the referenced site's so-called analysis, it is only looking at ingredient lists and assuming the worst case allowed by labeling law, rather than a company's actual manufacturing practices. <tongue firmly planted in cheek>So what ARE we supposed to use? X...
- Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:37 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Need New Dog Food
- Replies: 98
- Views: 25270
Re: Need New Dog Food
Ron's "fact" points up another problem with the referenced site's so-called analysis, it is only looking at ingredient lists and assuming the worst case allowed by labeling law, rather than a company's actual manufacturing practices.
- Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:24 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: running with a puppy??
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3726
Re: running with a puppy??
I'm a life-long runner who can't believe running on asphalt is good for anything but the tire industry, and certainly not young joints and growth plates, so I've never run my pups on it. Might not hurt a thing, but then again, why take the chance? And though you didn't say you were running on or alo...
- Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:58 pm
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Need New Dog Food
- Replies: 98
- Views: 25270
Re: Need New Dog Food
Always going to be those who insist dogs are cats. And little point in arguing long or hard with them.
- Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:36 am
- Forum: Health and Nutrition
- Topic: Shedding and the "firminator brush"
- Replies: 20
- Views: 8183
Re: Shedding and the "firminator brush"
Surely Furminator blades are, in fact, clipper blades, and I've seen that business about the Furminator cutting hair before, but it didn't cut mine when I tested the notion, and I just ran it through a grand child's thicker golden locks several times without cutting a hair. I suppose if you worked a...