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- Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:49 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Need some new puppy advice from 8 weeks-4months
- Replies: 11
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Re: Need some new puppy advice from 8 weeks-4months
Really appreciate the feedback. I'd like him to be trained this season but I care way more about the dogs happiness so I'd be perfectly fine with waiting another year to take him hunting. I want his training to be fun like ABSINTHE said. I want the pup always wanting more. RANDOMNUT, thanks I agree...
- Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:10 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Is there little or no variation in the cover types encountered during most trials in America ? You also have woods, root fields etc. so you must encounter things like brambles and gorse and fallen trees too ? Or are woodlands never used in spaniel trials in America ? Bill, pretty sure gundogguy wil...
- Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:30 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
The " THE OVER Command " In trial here in the states usually suggests, over and back to the truck and car park!!.. Now, having a cocker there are times when he will try to take a couple extra steps towards me if I stop him on his way back in to me. In that case I will raise my hand to enforce my ne...
- Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:32 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Many actually ..inadvertently as by natural behaviour of human (if they are right handed) raise the right hand when they 'stop' the dog !? when the dog actually is not looking at them ?...what's that all about ?....In that cover :wink: . It's a sign the handler's training is going well. At this poi...
- Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:53 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Now, on the topic of handling on blind retrieves, I've developed a vexatious problem which has me somewhat stymied. The dog has decided that a left or right over indicates she should run back towards me and aim for a spot to my left or right someplace. She is fine on a memory but on a blind she dec...
- Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:46 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Cover that high is a bit of a nightmare for everyone. The handlers cannot see the dogs and neither can the judges. A very experienced field trialing lady was competing in the first spaniel trial I ever saw. Her bitch was given a hunt through waist high, very densely growing kale. Her dog found noth...
- Sun Mar 13, 2016 4:31 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Spaniel Trainers in Charkeston?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2814
Re: Spaniel Trainers in Charkeston?
Are there any spaniel trainers in the Charleston, SC area? Everyone I know has retrievers or an occasional pointer, but I can't find anyone with a spaniel to train with. Justin, if your spaniel were a Boykin, you'd have a retriever too - a retrieving spaniel for which there are numerous trainers in...
- Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:52 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Oh, yeah. ... Much [/i] deeper. Supply and demands (plural) on the pro, potential conflict of interest (judging your clients and your clients' dogs and judging your adversary's client and your adversary's client dogs, etc.) and paycheck of course (for training [or not training or running client dogs...
- Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:28 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
gundogguy, does the mandatory attendance at a seminar also apply for spaniel field trial judging? I know I've taken the judging seminar for retriever HTs, but my snide remark about "anybody can" judge at retriever FTs was prompted by the credentialing of FT judges being so "loosey-goosey." In other...
- Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:07 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
gundogguy, does the mandatory attendance at a seminar also apply for spaniel field trial judging? I know I've taken the judging seminar for retriever HTs, but my snide remark about "anybody can" judge at retriever FTs was prompted by the credentialing of FT judges being so "loosey-goosey." In other ...
- Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:26 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Yes 'Trials' are scored by the letter system. Robt., my other devious plan during your visit was to get you an apprentice judging assignment for a US retriever trial. Anybody can do it, I think they've been thinking about digging up Jimmy Savile until the latest disclosures on his "professionalism"...
- Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:31 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Would y'all believe that a great many of them who buy "English Labs" over here are of the misbegotten notion that Labs in the UK, to become a "show champion," must also hold some kind of field trial certification? When in fact it is as Bill noted "some kind.....any kind....of work qualification to ...
- Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:36 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Which is probably why the split between our 'test' competitors and 'Field Trial competitors' (over here) remains ever dividing....? I think it is mainly the show folk trying to have some kind .....any kind.....of work qualification to swank about with that take part in those events. Would y'all bel...
- Mon Feb 29, 2016 11:43 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
For further clarification our 'tests' are all simulated set ups using bumpers and bangers. Our 'Trials' are all using live ammunition and Live Game. The Majority of Spaniel Trial' ers do not enter 'tests' .It would also be fair to say that especially with retrievers the majority of the competitors ...
- Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:04 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
...If the AKC Flushing dog test mirrored the CKC spaniel hunt test, participation would go way down. .. as an aside, There is no Master Hunter Advance test or title here either! Ah, but remember when there was [/i], gundogguy? - "was" being the operative word that lasted about what, 15 minutes of f...
- Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:55 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Welsh, long time, no hear - but all the negatives and pejoratives you've outlined below that apply in N. America are slowly but surely giving way in the UK to the original Clumber, the working [/i] Clumber - which essentially has been "rebuilt" into a true field-bred spaniel. Surely the Clumber is t...
- Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:04 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Are there no "Any Variety" spaniel trials in America? Move to Canada - doesn't matter if you have a cocker or springer, Sussex or Boykin, Clumber or Tweed - all the same to us. I've tried to help you out via Cass' er, emended comment, Bill. Otherwise, pay right close attention to what gundogguy's g...
- Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:06 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: using the "nick" on retrive? ?? fair ??
- Replies: 22
- Views: 9607
Re: using the "nick" on retrive? ?? fair ??
A retrieve is a recall with something in the dogs mouth. It can be trained separately to the actual retrieve with no danger of "poisoning" the retrieve. Just the opinion of a non- e collar person. :D Bill T. Non collar person or not, that's an excellent observation. The squirrel are what we'd refer...
- Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:18 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Labrador training
- Replies: 20
- Views: 7864
Re: Labrador training
And trains (and occasionally sells) retrievers for what kind of work and competition? Know your resume, GH, and Polmaise has similar credentials on his side of the pond for taking on all gundogs. But if you're training retrievers as [/i] retrievers here - as waterdogs, nonslip, and for handling on b...
- Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:09 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Labrador training
- Replies: 20
- Views: 7864
Re: Labrador training
Appreciate the pointing dog perspective and insights on situational awareness, but almost none of it applies for training a retriever as a retriever. The good news for the OP is that a note just now from Polmaise on another matter triggered a recommendation for what GH advises - a formal program to ...
- Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:17 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Labrador training
- Replies: 20
- Views: 7864
Re: Labrador training
Regardless whether the e-collar's "functioning properly," the OP obviously is working with it im properly on a retriever. To wit, GH's post. Any retriever or retrieving gundog that "gets distracted" on a simple retrieve has gotten misguided training delivered via the e-collar. Latch onto a retriever...
- Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:16 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: E-collar, yes or no?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 16460
Re: E-collar, yes or no?
...Anyway, my advice to the O.P. is to find a good instructor and have face to face lessons. I've got a question about e-collars......... would it be obvious to an experienced observer that a dog had been trained using an e-collar ? Bill T. Bill, with retrievers, it would be more obvious to the exp...
- Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:48 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Well, was a dismal afternoon so I got out with forum member krakadawn and his young dog for some big water action. We were expecting mainly divers but actually had to stop shooting buffleheads because we had so many greenheads coming in! Great day, great company, great dogs! You know, with kraka's ...
- Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:44 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Retriever trial in Britain
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3970
Re: Retriever trial in Britain
Scott, prepare to be eyewiped over that questionslistoe wrote:Would all of the dogs had to make the same retrieve?
And whatever you do, do not ask if any dogs came close to drowning - or swimming - during the making of this trial...
MG
- Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:12 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: ACS as best of Sporting Group
- Replies: 47
- Views: 25263
Re: ACS as best of Sporting Group
Why is it we cannot have an exchange of information? It almost always becomes an argument void of fact. "He who is without sin among you...." No question I have often contributed, but on this thread I don't think I did. Pretty sure you'll "atone" :wink: by commenting how happy you are that Boykins ...
- Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:41 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: ACS as best of Sporting Group
- Replies: 47
- Views: 25263
Re: ACS as best of Sporting Group
Also, mnaj, just for Ezzy's edification - and gundogguy, please correct me if I'm wrong - the only trial St. Keith Erlandson ever judged in the US, he put up an American cocker (Trish Jackson's Madison) over a field full of fbcockers for the blue ribbon. mnaj - had the call name wrong for the FC - ...
- Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:16 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: ACS as best of Sporting Group
- Replies: 47
- Views: 25263
Re: ACS as best of Sporting Group
I'm a bit lost. I thought there was only one type of American cocker spaniel.... there is only one type but somehow they got the classes split into three different colored groups. I too would like to see them moved out of the sporting dog group as they have bred them eith so much coat they couldn't...
Re: tug o war
A puppy that will "give," is set up to be a great dog. Not training a puppy the basics just leads to a lot of needless ear-pinching later on. Not the smart play. Bill There's no such thing as "needless ear pinching" , you're pressure conditioning the dog whether it knows how to "give" or has "the b...
- Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:35 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Breaking in Dog Blind
- Replies: 13
- Views: 6480
Re: Breaking in Dog Blind
All my blinds have a loop to tether the dog, and a carry a stake out when in the field. I am not a fan of nagging a young dog with the e-collar. Or of frying a young dog with the e-collar, either. Work the dog on obedience with formal retriever training (as in a group setting) and expose it to wate...
- Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:29 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: AKC Limited Registration
- Replies: 123
- Views: 72100
Re: AKC Limited Registration
We, clueless? Haha, sounds like some lab folks could use a clue :wink: Very few well bred labs are sold on limited, it is far seen in the puppy mills that sell Gentlem*n's G*ndogs and Silver breeders as a tool to limit competition. Bingo! - albeit with nike's assertion emended as above. Speaking of...
Re: tug o war
I think that my sister or I or our kids played tug-o-war and rough housed with literally every one of my dad's fc labs. Dogs are smart enough to differentiate between play and work and, if you're going to do force fetch, this entire discussion is a moot. I think that a lot of people, including many...
Re: tug o war
Again, "highest levels" of what kind of training, 'cause it ain't done or encouraged in retriever training - unless, as gonehuntin' noted you're wanting to instill a problem in a dog so you can deal with it retroactively. Like teaching a dog to vocalize so you can later teach it the "Quiet!" command...
Re: tug o war
Advanced levels of bite training? - otherwise please tell how "complementary" tuggy is to any kind of training that involves gundogs?Spy Car wrote:[... all my dogs are trained to very advanced levels.
Having a dog train to yield a tug is a good thing. It complements other training.
MG
- Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:32 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Which lab belongs to who?
- Replies: 30
- Views: 12234
Re: Which lab belongs to who?
Looks like most of you folks in your bullheadedness are missing the point polmaise is trying to make. I doubt that the pictures he posted have American Trial Labs in their pedigree :) On the money, Scott - Robt.'s put a few in the US but they aren't coming across carrying North American performance...
- Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:06 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
...think back on your retriever training. I personally do not think that All- Age Retrievers actually see a dead duck thrown by a bird boy some 400 yards away, they are conditioned to go deep. Genetically speaking the dogs that cannot be conditioned to go deep do not fare well in trials. "Go long o...
Re: tug o war
Show people play "tuggy" - fact - for "straightening their dog's detention (i.e., teeth and bite)."
Otherwise, why would you? "Bonding?" Bonding over hard-mouth to come, more like it...
MG
Otherwise, why would you? "Bonding?" Bonding over hard-mouth to come, more like it...
MG
- Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:40 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Bill, to clarify across the pond and the language chasm, by "no blinds in spaniel trials" I was conveying that blind retrieves on land and water are not formally required in spaniel trials as in retriever trials - in which a land blind followed by a water blind constitute two of the four "series" a ...
- Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:44 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Even in the AA retriever world it is said that if you are tempted to give and "Over" Command, you are really saying "Over and back to the truck" your done. Aye on! on that, gundogguy - means you've let the dog get "loose" on the line to a blind retrieve, and giving the "Over!" command confirms that...
- Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:08 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Robert you just could not wait to jab at at ol' Crackerd!! :D International cross pond 'Banter' :lol: of which I'm more than confident my learned' friend is comfortable with :wink: So long as no dirks are involved - well, maybe rubber dirks - indeed I'm mighty comfortable with the jabs. After all I...
- Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:14 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
You may already know 'Flint' that spaniels are often used in our Retriever Trials to find the game for those sleepy dogs at heel 'Crackerd' :lol: Hah! As I told you about the "One spaniel, one retriever, one shooter" mantra for the late, great Polmaise Cup, not only would you need just one dog if i...
- Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:20 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Good possibly productive and certainly stimulating dialog on spaniel trialing. gundogguy's precis on AKC involvement - and gentle admonition of why Canada holds A/V trials - both spot on My only qualm, coming from a retriever perspective, is that they allow mighty big blind stakes in them Scottish t...
- Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:39 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Anyone else on here going to be at the US Cocker Nationals next week? I have two dogs entered. Jordan, I may swing by for a day, grounds are not far from home. Always enjoy seeing who has it going on with FB Cockers . gundogguy, much crossover in the ranks with ESS and fbcocker handlers? - Say pros...
- Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:06 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Bluetick/Wirehair Pointer Mix
- Replies: 10
- Views: 5756
Re: Bluetick/Wirehair Pointer Mix
Sounds like you got a "home-made" version if in appearance only of this beast, le Griffon Nivernais https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFu8wo2LpFc also known as France's pig sticker-to ("sur sanglier") extraordinaire.
MG
MG
- Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:52 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Running and barking at strangers?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 10090
Re: Running and barking at strangers?
We have an 8 month old, spayed GSP and we're having the issue of her running barking at people but, only sometimes . Take a step back and read that sentence again?... Get a basenji, then you'll have the issue of her running at people, but, only sometimes but never barking at them... If you're not t...
- Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:40 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Behavoir Change During Force Fetch
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3354
Re: Behavoir Change During Force Fetch
...last night as we are watching tv on the couch she casually walks over and starts trying to hump me. My intel is that's why the Brits don't practice force fetch - let's just leave it at that :wink: Nah, just kidding there, but I don't think it was necessarily dominance related but hormonal - you ...
- Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:06 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Shaking Dokken Dummy
- Replies: 33
- Views: 9481
Re: Shaking Dokken Dummy
What I know is certainly wrong is deciding the matter without input from the trainer. You mean the trainer who got the dog for 10 weeks after it already was doing the death shake of the Dokken and then gave the dog back still shaking it upon return to the OP? Yeah, I'd want the trainer's input - li...
- Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:03 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Shaking Dokken Dummy
- Replies: 33
- Views: 9481
Re: Shaking Dokken Dummy
A one-day fix. But if you're nicking the dog while it's got something in its mouth, you're liable soon to have an unfixable situation on your hands. Listen to gonehuntin' - he's got a helluva lot better handle on retrievers as a retired pro than many of the "working" pros of the present. Especially ...
- Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:21 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
We had a great few weeks in Washington at a 4 day hunt test followed the next weekend by my first entry into a cocker spaniel field trial. Learned so much from all the amazing cocker folks and me and my dog got the opportunity to run in the most amazing cover we have ever seen. Bridget was able to ...
- Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:11 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Lab Line training cold blinds
- Replies: 12
- Views: 5261
Re: Lab Line training cold blinds
I have a 2 year old Golden who earned her SH this year. She is a super hard driving girl! Last year I took her waterfowl hunting with me 3-4 times. I did not take my gun, I worked with her, first we were away from the blind where our shooters were, and I slowly worked her in until she was in the bl...
- Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:02 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: The Spaniel Spot
- Replies: 1740
- Views: 840078
Re: The Spaniel Spot
Congratulations Nick! 42 years married here. Highly recommend it. :) But Sharon, the big question for Our Cass is, Will this be a shotgun wedding, or a Retriev-R dummy launcher wedding as based on my "prenuptial" present to him a couple years back? Meaning is Nick "launching" down the aisle of his ...