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When you release her and she gets excited and starts jumping around, or up on them, IMMEDIATELY command NO! and down her. It takes work and consistency and like Steve said, she's young, but at 18 months she's getting up there to behave that badly.

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I guess I've owned a ton of breeds, from hounds to DD's which I have now. I have no favorites. It depends on what game I'm intrigued hunting. I've run bassets and beagles on bunnies, walkers on fox and coyote, blue tick on coon, Lab's on waterfowl, Setters on grouse and DD's on all birds. Since I hu...

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Especially with Lab's, exercise really doesn't matter but discipline does. These dog's do what you allow them to do. If you allow them to get excited and spin circles they will. If you don't they won't. It's all just a matter of obedience. Perhaps put a small 4x6 rug on the floor and make the dog la...

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Nice friend to have!

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Notice that grip carefully. That grip does a third very important thing: It makes it impossible for the dog to bite you. He can neither turn in nor out to bite. Personally, I never like the collar tang to pinch the ear against. You sometimes, with some dog's, have to use too much pressure on it. I p...

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The short video was done for another person and is on this thread. I believe it's called Help With Force Fetch. So here's the thing about these videos. Most only show them when things go right. Most of the time they don't. Problem's with the toe hitch are multiple. First, your face is too close to t...

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Don't make excuses for the dog. The toe hitch is a great way to get your face bitten off. I have a short video on here showing a pup I ff'd by ch. with the jowl pinch. Take a look at it. If a dog won't ff using the ear pinch, the jowl pinch is a vey highly effective method and it is still an easy tr...

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https://studio.youtube.com/video/vmv5I-yA5Xk/edit

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SMART FETCH IS THE BIBLE. Every other method of FF was derived from this one, which is really the one Rex Carr perfected. Force is force, but the dog MUST understand it. Everyone is in such a hurry today. You should always use the Jowls to begin FF, it used uncomfortable pressure and makes it so eas...

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The 200i will do it. Each person adds the dog's they want to track. Great unit.

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"Don't want to spoil it for him". Odd comment. He's spoiling it for you! Get him under control now, or you may not. At two, he has ingrained habits that you have to break. First, the HERE command. He obviously isn't 100% on it or he wouldn't throw objects in the air and catch them on the way in. Tha...

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Really, you have answered your own question. Great water dog's aren't made in a bath tub. Usually, it's a question of exposure to water so the dog becomes comfortable in it. There are a couple of parts to this. One, some dog's will just NEVER JUMP into the water. They run in, but they won't jump. Yo...

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MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!

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Leather stinks. Gundog Supply has the bomb. I believe mine is four years ole now and as goods as new. Get the name plate with it too with your cell phone # on it.

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I hunt heavily pressured birds on public land, so take it for what it's worth. First, I think it is very dependent on terrain and how far your dog stands off them. Of course, the further away they point,(like a grouse dog), the more likely it is you'll never find that bird to flush it; he'll run 100...

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That's exactly how I handled it. Sat them to the whistle until I caught up. If you have a great handling dog, like a lab that takes whistles and hand signals, you can sometimes handle the dog AROUND the bird, then whistle it back to you. I have to tell you in all honesty, this didn't work well for m...

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I never, at any age, take my dog's anywhere there's a lot of dog's. Dog parks are the worst. If you have a bird dog, you MUST have access to land around you somewhere. If you don't, there is probably no point in you having a bird dog. I never worry about dog's socializing with other dog's. I do like...

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Treasure those days, they are not forever. I once took my daughter dove hunting in Idaho, she wanted to see her Lab, Nipper work. I shot a bunch of dove and we went home, my little chatterbox silent most of the way. Highly unusual. She couldn't pronounce her R's yet. Finally I said to her "Did you e...

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There have been a lot of problems with dogs eating cedar shavings then having severe intestinal problems. If, as Steve says, sleeping on carpeting isn't an option, I have my best luck with marsh hay. Straw is horrible but marsh hay doesn't absorb as much water and has a pleasant smell.

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Training in the SNOW is basically, a waste of time. In the winter I do obedience, FF, etc; all things I can do indoors. I do road them in the snow. Working birds in the snow can cause more problems than it's worth.

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It depends on your experience and how much time you have. Two dog equals twice the time, twice the food and vet bills, twice the mess. How experienced are you? If you're very experienced you can do it. If you're kind of new to this, I wouldn't do it. That pup you have is prime age to give a lot of e...

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He simply ignored the HERE command. Just because he's obedient in the yard, doesn't mean he is in the field. For him to be correctly trained, commands must be enforced in multiple locations. You have to just take him for walks in different locations, command HERE when he's a ways out, and reinforce ...

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This is something I wrote a long time ago for new puppy owners. I've re-read it and all still apply today, regardless of breed. It kind of ties right in with this discussion. AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRAIN If our hunting dog is also our house dog, we are given 1,440 opportunities each day to train that dog...

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Garrison, I think the difference here is breed difference. For setters and pointers I have always told people that if they hold point (most well bred dogs naturally do this), come when called and know what NO means, they are huntable. However, this is not true of versatile dog's where they are expec...

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When I was training, and if a dog had a problem when it went home, nearly 100% of the time it was the OWNERS fault and not the dog's. Owners simply don't continue training the dog in the manner the trainer used. They don't understand or get lazy and stop enforcing commands the trainer has instilled ...

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Many dog's will NEVER quit chasing birds if you don't make them quit. Shucks, it's fun! Keep reading. First, if he creeps on whoa in the field, his whoa isn't solid. You have to TEMPT these dog's. There's an old trainers saying: "Train for the ridiculous and the tr ials come easy." You have taken hi...

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Buying an older dog may not be all roses. If that dog was trained, then given a lot of attention, it's possible you've struck gold. You know exactly what you have, you know exactly how the dog will perform, you could never buy a pup and have it trained for what you can sometimes pick up an older dog...

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The larger the dog, the less endurance. Where the smaller, more animated dog, will weasel through the tough stuff, the big dog's try to bull through. It is very taxing on them. You will have a harder time finding a good Chessie as well, especially the lighter, faster ones. I've had good luck with th...

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One of my favorite dog's of all time is the Labrador. This from a guy with DD's. I had horrible luck with them. They are riddled with so many different health issues and for some reason, seem extraordinarily plagued by cancer. I lost three to it. One, Nipper was a Super Powder dog and died of eye ca...

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Thank you for the insight and recommendation. What you describe as Russian Olive jungle in Idaho is very similar to the swampy jungles here in Washington and Oregon. Impenetrable stuff that can rip a dog up in short order. I'm reluctant to go the Labrador Retriever route simply because I want a dog...

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For a part of my life I was the head trainer at perhaps the largest gun dog kennel in the country, running 120 dog's in training at a time. Most were flushing dog's but we ran a lot of pointing dog's also. Point is, I've had a lot of experience with probably every breed of flushing dog except the Bo...

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I think what you want is a dog that can "weasel" through the grass, not jump at it and bull through it. A friend of mine is knowledgable about Boykin's and loves them. Were it me, and if I hunted some waterfowl as well, I'd opt for a SMALLER breed lab. It would go through the cattail like a Boykin a...

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They did a great job Steve. Been shooting it about 15 years now with no issue. I have a set of steel choke for it too, but I’m afraid to chance it.

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If you take waterfowl out of the equation, it's an old Browning Superposed Superlight 12ga, straight stock, screw in tubes by Briley. I've shot that gun since 1965. My second is a Browning Freather 20 with a set of 28 barrels also. Must be near 20 years I've shot that one as well. For waterfowl it's...

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Once a dog has an active interest in birds, letting them chase does no good at all. It simply endangers the pup, destroys any obedience the pup may have, and makes breaking the chase more difficult later. I DO let them chase until 16 weeks and that's it. After that I do have them retrieving clip wi...

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Once a dog has an active interest in birds, letting them chase does no good at all. It simply endangers the pup, destroys any obedience the pup may have, and makes breaking the chase more difficult later. I DO let them chase until 16 weeks and that's it. After that I do have them retrieving clip wi...

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Once a dog has an active interest in birds, letting them chase does no good at all. It simply endangers the pup, destroys any obedience the pup may have, and makes breaking the chase more difficult later. I DO let them chase until 16 weeks and that's it. After that I do have them retrieving clip win...

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If the lip pinch didn't work, you didn't do it hard enough. Slapping on the nose causes hand shyness and teaches nothing. Blowing in the ear can get your face bit. So can the flank pinch. I hate getting bit.

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Sounds to me like you're giving her plenty of exercise and doing it just right. The next thing is, clamp down on her a bit in the house. I've lived with super high energy field trial dog's in my house for about 50 years now, maybe a bit more. I will put up with so much, because I kind of enjoy it, t...

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Depends on how long she's been in heat. If she just came in, she probably isn't pregnant. If she's been in for a few weeks, give her the shot.

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What Slistoe said. Biting is a big NO-NO and puppy or not, NONE should be allowed to do it. If the pup doesn't stop when you pinch his gums to his upper canines, you aren't doing it hard enough. You should be pinching hard enough for the pup to yelp when you do it. Some will then back off, give a gr...

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If you hunt the woods the Garmin 200i is the only way to fly. If you hunt the prairies only, the Garmin 550+.

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Scrap the training table, you don't need one. Those are really for Pro's or Am's with a ton of dog's. You'll find that putting a piece of 3/4" X 14" X 8' long between two card table chairs will do a great job for you. The springiness of the plywood makes the dog tentative and they accept pressure ea...

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You can be headed for a mess of problems with a pup like that (many are). First things first. Always, ALWAYS, have him on a CC so he HAS to come back to you. NEVER get mad at him. I always simply reel him in to me, coaxing him all the way, then pinch those sharp little upper canines of his against h...

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GRRRRRRRRR...........

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slistoe wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:55 am
You realize the thread is 18 years old

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NO,I didn't. Why would anyone post an old thread? Sheesh.

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Look at versitaledogs.com for example. every small discussion turns to a flame fest. Really, there are only two people there that cause a problem. Many of the discussions on there are quite good. There is, however, one person that does believe his dogs are the greatest, he is the greatest, and his ...

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Pro trainers work on a different philosophy than amateur trainers, at least the good ones do. You can have a trained dog you successfull"y hunt over that is full of holes and the longer the dog goes, the more the holes become caverns. So, I totally disagree that there are no wrong ways to train a do...

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Perhaps when I used the word "terror" it was misunderstood. I should have said fear and there is a difference. You cannot have a well trained dog without that dog having some fear. Now, before you get all offended and yowl about that, think about it. That dog comes when called initially, from the fe...

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That's a good video. I also incorporate the HEELING STICK with the prong or pinch collar. I prefer the pinch collar. The heeling stick is not to beat the dog with, it gives the dog a visual boundary and they learn where their boundary is. I don't think you can teach a dog too young to heel, or at le...

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