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by Devils Creek
Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:41 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Why whoa a dog that holds point
Replies: 18
Views: 5599

Devils Creek with the method I use the bird in the air tells the dog to whoa. We teach stop to flush at the same time we are working on being staunch Absolutely, and I do exactly the same thing..but with a dog that's maybe 18 months or so. I will have taught him to whoa as a separate item before th...
by Devils Creek
Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:28 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: Inside, outside or seasonal
Replies: 33
Views: 33772

We have too many usually to keep inside continuously. I have a 5 kennel building (10' x 24') with runs, and they spend their days there, but when either the weather gets too inclement (we live in Canada) or the mosquitos too fierce, they spend their nights in the house. I do heat the kennel, but it ...
by Devils Creek
Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:18 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: Favorite Game Bird
Replies: 124
Views: 144915

birdogg42 wrote:No doubt bobwhite quail!!!
No, I can reach wild bobwhite with a brief 14 hour truck ride,,

I mean the really exotic ones..

Mearns, Gambels, California etc.
by Devils Creek
Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:13 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: What gauge do you shoot for upland birds?
Replies: 110
Views: 125418

With light field loads, or heavy target loads the recoil is non-existent, and follow up shots are quicker. If a 7 1/2 lb gun isn't a problem, why are you worried about recoil? :lol: Sorry i thought that was kind of a contradiction there. :wink: Hey Sorno...finish reading the sentence. I really like...
by Devils Creek
Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:58 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Gun Nervousness and more....??
Replies: 6
Views: 1913

I would just spend more time building bird desire. About the only way to overcome the noise is have a dog so bird aggressive that it overcomes the noise. 9 mo is young, it would not hurt to spend the next 2-3 months letting her bump and chase. How long did she see birds before shooting? It is not a...
by Devils Creek
Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:43 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Pup & Wild Birds
Replies: 20
Views: 7715

Just a couple of things: You don't want her to flush and chase grouse; she's a pointing breed. Grouse are the toughest bird you can train a dog on; expect a lot of failure. Don't let her catch planted or liberated birds she's supposed to be pointing. If you want her to chase birds, keep her on a ch...
by Devils Creek
Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:21 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Need suggestion for introducing birds
Replies: 16
Views: 5310

I would never, ever put a pup I was training in position to catch a planted bird. If the pup learns he can catch a planted bird, he will think he can catch wild ones. It will be a major chore to get dog to hold point later on. Well then, start on wild birds. I let them have a ball and tear it up th...
by Devils Creek
Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:20 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: Grouse Dogs
Replies: 27
Views: 39214

I believe a good grouse dog comes from good grouse dog bloodlines. Or, it makes your odds of obtaining a good grouse dog that much better. And, of course training plays into the equation. Get that dog on lot's of wild birds early. Let him learn that he can't crowd his birds. The smart ones figure i...
by Devils Creek
Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:04 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: Which shotgun brand do you use?
Replies: 180
Views: 227769

The last 4 out of 5 have been Remington's...... I LOVE GAS AUTOS...... My buddy's 5 lb Ugartachea sxs in 20 gauge hurts with anything more than 7/8 oz., and even then gives me a rap on the cheek when I fire the right barrel that I find disconcerting. Had a Beretta 687L for 6 months and never could q...
by Devils Creek
Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:47 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: Favorite Game Bird
Replies: 124
Views: 144915

Growing up on the Canadian Prairies, I cut my teeth on Sharptail, but if I had one day to live, I'd spend it hunting bobwhite. So my vote is: Bobwhite Quail, Huns, Ruffed Grouse, Sharp Tail, Pheasant Woodcock I'd probably have a heart attack hunting wild chukar's but would really like to go south fo...
by Devils Creek
Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:36 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: What gauge do you shoot for upland birds?
Replies: 110
Views: 125418

Now I would consider a 16 as well if the right gun came along, but for the present... I am a 6'2 former police officer, and carrying around a 7 1/2 lb gun is not really an issue. I bought a Remington 1187 Premier 12 gauge when they came out with the 26" Light Contour barrel, and I've really enjoyed ...
by Devils Creek
Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:12 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Why whoa a dog that holds point
Replies: 18
Views: 5599

Now if you've got a pup that will track a fleet footed rooster, and then reestablish point, I don't think you're going to have a problem. I would suggest that your dog knows more about what's happening, than your brother-in-law. However, If you're eventually going to want a dog that is steady to flu...
by Devils Creek
Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:53 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: JUST RECEIVED MY FIRST POINTER
Replies: 18
Views: 6764

Had the opportunity to ride some prairie championships when Canada was declining to let the pros in back in the 80's, and the Sasketchewan and some other trials moved down here. Like pretty much all of them for what they are, unless they intend to give offense, not refering to you by any stretch, b...
by Devils Creek
Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:13 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: Curious how you all transport your dog to go hunting
Replies: 61
Views: 75852

Knocked a dog cold once when I had to slam on the brakes..... Then there's the skunks....I had a vizsla who would kill every one he saw. Since then... I built a dog box that holds 5 and only takes up the front 30" of the truck box. Its fastened in with turnbuckles to the truck box sides. Not perfect...
by Devils Creek
Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:03 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: What am I looking at? (Need some opinions)
Replies: 24
Views: 7042

I read some years ago about a fella, I think he was one of the major circuit trainers, who just fenced in a big area, a couple of sections with bird populations (wish I had that kind of dough) and turned a bunch of pups loose in there to run around, gave them food and water and not much else. The s...
by Devils Creek
Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:54 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Roading
Replies: 21
Views: 7437

Thanks John

You just saved me $78 Canadian.

I guess I like the fact I can pedal a bit when the dog gets tired, or going up a hill (yes we do have those on the prairies, though they aren't much)

I do have an idea, and will post with pictures after I experiment.
by Devils Creek
Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:42 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: JUST RECEIVED MY FIRST POINTER
Replies: 18
Views: 6764

Nice dogs Devils Creek. Maybe you could start a post and spin a tail or two about prairie bird dogs, have noticed you hang around Manitoba now and then. Thanks John, Yes I have been fortunate to be born & bred in Manitoba, and I currently live about 1/2 hour east of Winnipeg with 5 Tennessee Walker...
by Devils Creek
Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:11 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: New pup following older dog around
Replies: 9
Views: 2906

The beauty of having two dogs is the opportunity to have a fresh one all the time. One of the scariest things to hear from a guy is" He backs really well, but hasn't found too many on his own". Dogs will accept that their position is to follow and add moral support. Sounds like you're on the right t...
by Devils Creek
Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:00 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: What am I looking at? (Need some opinions)
Replies: 24
Views: 7042

Those are the events you wrote about earlier. You have made some effort to get him on live birds, but have not succeeded. Maybe that would be a better way of putting it. The number one mistake that beginning hunting dog trainers make is to fail to understand how important frequent and constant expo...
by Devils Creek
Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:25 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Does excelling in the field come at the cost of obedience?
Replies: 26
Views: 7595

Wow, now that is encouraging. What was the breed of the dog? Even a po' GSP guy knows that one. The Kansas Wind was an All Age pointer, elected to the American Field Hall of Fame in 1982. You have me stumped on Orion's Flush, however. The name is familiar, it was a pointer, but I do not recall that...
by Devils Creek
Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:52 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: JUST RECEIVED MY FIRST POINTER
Replies: 18
Views: 6764

birdogg42 wrote:Great looking dog devils creek!! Where in missouri where you hunting?
Thank you Sir....

Several spots right up in the North West corner, Unionville, area. Friends up that way, on both sides of the IA line, and have hunted in that area since the late '70's.

Harv
by Devils Creek
Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:47 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Roading
Replies: 21
Views: 7437

Great posts guys... I am using a pointer roading harness, available from any of the pointer/field trial supply houses. It really is designed for the tension to be from somewhat above. I use a 20' nylon rope with a loop on the back to fit over the "spoon" on my trooper saddle. I use a line that long,...
by Devils Creek
Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:40 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Does excelling in the field come at the cost of obedience?
Replies: 26
Views: 7595

Great posts guys... My first pointer was a full brother to National Champion Orion's Flush. (1 litter later) bred by Ben Parr of Pratt Kansas ( Ch. The Kansas Wind, Ninnescah River Chief). I put a CKC CD (Companion Dog ) Title on him, entered him in an obedience trial with approx. 250 other dogs. We...
by Devils Creek
Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:23 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: JUST RECEIVED MY FIRST POINTER
Replies: 18
Views: 6764

Congrats.... Had Vizslas from '63 till late 70's. Started with pointers in '71 and have had 2 to 3 at a time since. Have never looked back, and never will. Now if we're asking for pics, here's my son Steve trying to kick up a single quail in Missouri in Nov. Devils Creek Zeke, 2 yrs. http://i117.pho...
by Devils Creek
Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:09 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Roading
Replies: 21
Views: 7437

I do not use the chains anymore, I have a dog scooter which is safer for the dog and safer for me than a bike. Do you have a pic of the scooter? Is it manufactured or something you came up with yourself? http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o60/Devilscreekw/RoadingZeke.jpg As you can see, I'm still d...