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Neil

I and others are retired...your data is flawed! I do not believe retired folks are statistically speaking on this website 'outliers' ... :mrgreen: There is no data, and I tried to be nonjudgemental, it is none of my business. I was just observing there seems to be a lot more activity here during th...

Neil

He did great, and it was clearly excitement.

All my blinds have a loop to tether the dog, and a carry a stake out when in the field. I am not a fan of nagging a young dog with the e-collar. He will learn.

Neil

The “marathon” runners—including dogs running in the Iditarod—have some border collie, hound, or pointer mixed in, says Stuart Nelson, Jr., head veterinarian for the Iditarod.

Neil

I have a lot of respect for the dogs and mushers of sled dog racing, and have followed their exploits since the 1960's. However, there is a good bit of misinformation repeated here. There is no registry for the dogs, no such thing as a purebred sled dog, the dogs are qualified on looks. Here is one ...

Neil

That is not a real test, what a dog prefers is completely meaningless, they are not in charge of the menu.

And you are trying to deflect away from your misstatements.

Neil

What would you say causes it? Obviously the fish, but why? I'd say it's because when they are eating the food they were shaped by nature to consume—rather than an extruded cereal-based meal that needs to be spayed with "meat flavor" to be remotely palatable—that dog's saliva starts flowing, and the...

Neil

Yesterday I spilled some dry deer corn in the dog yard, forgetting about it, I almost had a dog fight when I let them out as they pushed one another to get the last kernel. Dry corn! My dogs must have missed the memo about evolving to only eat meat. I have seen coyotes eat corn, wheat, other grains...

Neil

Yesterday I spilled some dry deer corn in the dog yard, forgetting about it, I almost had a dog fight when I let them out as they pushed one another to get the last kernel. Dry corn! My dogs must have missed the memo about evolving to only eat meat. I have seen coyotes eat corn, wheat, other grains,...

Neil

I have kept both since the 70's, and both have their place.

Neil

Anyone with any experience with performance dogs would never use retrievers as an example.

And for those that believe the Iditorid is the extreme test, I counter with there a reason that pointers are not allowed entry and the top contenders often travel South to learn about optimum conditioning.

Neil

Neil- I received this alert on Face Book, its someone else's dog. I am just looking for more eyes in that area. I have a Garmin but even that doesn't mean that a dog cant get lost. I have seen 2 get lost wearing them. 1 was recovered from micro chip and the other was recovered by the name tag on th...

Neil

I am unemployed, so I am as likely to post on a Tuesday at 3 am as on Saturday at 2 pm, but have noticed many are more inclined to visit here during what most consider normal working hours. I do not think that common in developing countries, and says a lot about the US. So much for productively of A...

Neil

And when you get him back, and I pray you do, buy a Garmin.

Neil

Reading through my old posts makes me realize how much I have evolved, or I am unhinged. You decide.

But I have been consistent in believing the Smith system works.

Neil

Most of my show success has been in specialties that tend to be more accepting of field dogs, but I have respect for those of you competing in shows. There is a lot more involved than most hunters understand.

Just did not want it to go unnoticed.

Neil

So I guess my dogs who also have hundreds of Breed wins, multiple MBISS, MBIS, including NBIS, Nat Champ and 1st A.O.l at Nats. while making all cuts at Westminster (several years) would look "much better" had I fed raw? Man, I would have given my left nut in those days if I saw an advantage. You d...

Neil

[quote="AlPastor] That isn't an accurate statement. You could have won in spite of or due to your nutrition but you can't make any statement without comparison to a control group.[/quote] Since the concept of variable elimination and control groups eludes you, just do what Bob West tells you. You'll...

Neil

What I have proven irrefutably is diet is not a limiting factor in my dog's success. That isn't an accurate statement. You could have won in spite of or due to your nutrition but you can't make any statement without comparison to a control group. The control group is your dogs, if they had ever won...

Neil

Bill,

You are very kind.

Neil

What I have proven irrefutably is diet is not a limiting factor in my dog's success. Should you ever have a change of heart and want to try a raw diet with one of your dogs Neil, I'd be willing to mentor you though the process. You would see a difference in the condition of the dog. Bill That is mo...

Neil

That is the point you all miss, feed what wins. You have a better feed, prove it by winning. No, you're missing the point. You're try to turn a single variate equation, where the genes, training and conditioning are all constants so all we haven't measure is the delta of performance based upon diff...

Neil

What I have proven irrefutably is diet is not a limiting factor in my dog's success.

Neil

I am a native Californian, and combined those that visit here could not entice me to return. In fact, those that proudly live there is enough to question everything you say. Rather than ask us to experiment, saddle up. And any winning breed fed whatever is worthy of a place in my string. That is th...

Neil

polmaise wrote:
Spy Car wrote: Combine great genetics, great training and conditioning with optimal nutrition, and look-out!

Bill
Now your talking
Take the first two away and you get a fit healthy dog that does nothing.
Take the last two away and you get a well bred dog with good training that achieves little.

Yes

Neil

I am a native Californian, and combined those that visit here could not entice me to return. In fact, those that proudly live there is enough to question everything you say. Rather than ask us to experiment, saddle up. And any winning breed fed whatever is worthy of a place in my string. That is the...

Neil

My son travels international and tells me nearly all 3rd world countries have much better cell and internet accessibility. So unless you are going to run dogs in Cambodia, you need to look to Garmin/SportDog, and soon Marshall.

Neil

They aren't there simply because they can't compete. Because a pointer/setters physiology is changed by having a 3 hour trial once a year? Not the physiology, but the reward of an exceptional individual that is fed the optimal food! Not the best , mind you, but the best available. There are so many...

Neil

http://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/cghg/top_pointer/

I do realize the absence of proof is hardly proof. There are a number of explanations for the results of the study not being published. But as a skeptic, I choose mine.

Neil

I believe all dogs point, cats point, plus foxes, coyotes, wolves, most all mammalian predators. Not sure about bears. When he was 6 years old I observed my son working his 12 pound cockapoo on a leash with his cap gun. From only watching me he had the little guy steady, pointing with a high head an...

Neil

Many of the places I hunt and trial do not have reliable cell service, but for most it is a viable alternative.

Neil

I hunt, do you read your own posts? You were the one that said they were much easier to kill than a wild rooster, I wouldn't' t know, I don't hunt poultry. Please let me say again, I think it irresponsible to hunt wild pheasants with a .410, It is not sporting, it is not impressive, it does not sho...

Neil

Please let me say again, I think it irresponsible to hunt wild pheasants with a .410, It is not sporting, it is not impressive, it does not show skill. That was and is my only point. That is your right, and I don`t hunt the Wild Birds with the .410 either. You could have avoided all the BS by sayin...

Neil

He will grow out of it, at least all I know about have. And as said, don't run them for at least 2 hours after eating, and some suggest fasting.

Neil

I hunt, do you read your own posts? You were the one that said they were much easier to kill than a wild rooster, I wouldn't' t know, I don't hunt poultry. Please let me say again, I think it irresponsible to hunt wild pheasants with a .410, It is not sporting, it is not impressive, it does not show...

Neil

I try not to apply my morals to others, but I cannot justify hunting wild pheasant with a .410. It is not sporting, it does not show great skill, it is just irresponsible. You want to prove your prowess with a shotgun, try shooting a .410 at sporting clays at $10.00 a bird! I knew I would get some ...

Neil

I try not to apply my morals to others, but I cannot justify hunting wild pheasant with a .410. It is not sporting, it does not show great skill, it is just irresponsible.

You want to prove your prowess with a shotgun, try shooting a .410 at sporting clays at $10.00 a bird!

Neil

I believe that scent detection does vary within breeds and even individual dogs; but their sense of smell is so great and the scent of the bird so strong that I am convinced it is brain power that we are observing when we talk of a dog having a good nose. I liken it to observing two humans lifting w...

Neil

The talk about diet having an effect on injury got me to thinking, I cannot recall a single one of my dogs missing a trial or a hunt from a soft tissue injury. I have had them killed and one die from a rare aneurysm, a few cuts and bruises, a dozen porkupine encounters, some torn nails and slipped p...

Neil

Coffman shows that diet matters. If you don't care to realize it is a continuum, and the further one reduces the carb load the more performance continues to improve, what can I say? The sled dog guys know this. Someday the leassons will sink in the gundog community (which is way behind the times). ...

Neil

I so tire of these stupid dog food circular arguments, where semantics are considered more important than facts. I come here to learn and contribute when I can, not be degraded by anonymous antagonists. The winning pros feed a quality feed that works, their loyalty to Purina, while intense, is limit...

Neil

Update....Used the advice giving by taking pup to the dog park first before our hunt and working off his excitement.Slowed him down in the field big time He still wants to run straight up the road (only half as far before my question)then his brain seems to click and he comes right back to me then ...

Neil

Brazosvalleyvizslas wrote:
but put any Canis in heat and see if a Wolf wont mate to it.

I understand that is the most common way, a male wolf will mate with a female coyote or dog, but a a male coyote or dog never gets close enough to a female wolf, he is killed.

Neil

Please do not forget most of the money spent on canine nutrition reseach comes from Purina, and they are by far the leading sponsor of field trials. Iams was doing some, but they capitulated the performance, pointing dog market. I know most of the pros that run at Ames reward the Purina contribution...

Neil

AlPastor wrote: it was an easy task to add to their usual kibble.

My point. No one is leaving kibble behind and seriously hunting or trialing.

I travel with 8 - 12 dogs, often off the grid.

Neil

Bill, What I am doing isn't perfect, not even optimal, but it works after a fashion. The weak link in my program is not nutrition, in fact it is pretty far down the list of limiting factors. Following general incompetence, laziness, time, money, health, dedication, facilities, access to wild birds, ...

Neil

Bill, Your last sentence suggests you are making a giant leap, I don't know anyone winning with any type of performance dogs that "have left cereal based diet behind", do you? I think you would have to have a refrigerator truck follow you around. You are misleading others by suggesting the only opti...

Neil

Bill, I attended the symposium, and my notes reflect Mike's observations. I think we have tried to represent a layman's understanding of the science, not ignore it. You have to understand why someone would question if you do understand the science. Iirc from reading old threads, you're feeding Puri...

Neil

LET ME BE CLEAR, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST IT. I HAVE WORKED WITH MANY PRO'S WHO TRAIN FIELD TRIAL RETRIEVERS AND IN THOSE 30 YEARS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE EVERY HAD ANYONE SUGGEST 'TUG A WAR' AS A TRIED AND TRUE TRAINING TECHNIQUE. END OF MY DISCUSSION! I think some have a 'hearing problem...

Neil

Bill,

I attended the symposium, and my notes reflect Mike's observations. I think we have tried to represent a layman's understanding of the science, not ignore it.

Neil

Interesting article, I would prefer additional research. Anecdotally, the coyotes I see today are larger, stronger, and much better looking, not at all like the scrawny, mange infested critters of my youth. http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/a-new-species-is-evolving-right-before-our-eyes-an-ultra-succ...

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