Gun Dog Forum

bobman

Gonehunting says it is and thats good enough for me hes a very sharp retriever man, I've never seen it. Evan's system has an excelllent reputation among the retriever guys I know and I know some good ones. Like pointer guys they are all full of it. When I was training labs VCRs and CD/DVD players di...

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you ought to buy Evans training videos and follow them.

A 1.5 year old dog should be the perfect age to train

bobman

My dogs get two hours a day ,one in the AM one in the PM 7 days a week, somewhere the right amount will be apparent the dog will calm down

bobman

I wounld'nt put either dog on birds I was worried they could catch..... its always a mistake. Hunting season with wild birds is almost here thats what dogs need IMO

bobman

How much exercise is this dog getting ???? sounds like she needs more I would do that and I would also get a good book or CD with a complete program and just start from scratch just like a pup in three months you wil have a trained dog good for the next 12 years or better with a little luck I would ...

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IMO the solid wall is a mistake the birds will recall much better if they can see the other birds through the hardware cloth and you need a door on that pen you can close at night or something will get in there and kill them. I put a small flat rock in front of the funnel to get them up to the right...

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the most basic principle of dog training is don't set the dog up to fail Its your responsibility puppy proof your house just like you would babyproof a house if you had a small child IE take the crap off your tables,put the food bin in a closet ect you can very gently grab the scruff of her neck and...

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If he points butterflies at least you know he has point in him I would work him without any birds in fields and see if he starts pointing tweety birds ( which he can't catch) and just let him continue to gain some confidence I would at the same time be gently work on a solid "here" then I would take...

bobman

shooting a running deer with a drilling is fairly easy if they are close which they usaully are.

I've killed them on a dead run out to 100 yards however most shots are within 40 yards usaully less.

bobman

deer get wounded just like birds it happens and our dogs are the best insurance against wasteing them something as small as a twig can deflect a bullet and trun a well placed shot into a gut shot I've done it and I've killed well over 150 deer in my life probably about 50 of them over my GSPs points...

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Get what you want thats what matters.... we aren't living with it

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nothing

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If all you do is hunt ducks get the lab nothing can beat a good lab in a duck blind and they are wonderful pets

bobman

cute pup I'll take her then you can sleep I put em in bed with me so they shut up plus I like puppy breath :wink: its better than mine I dont mind getting up a few times at night so they can tinkle, at my age I have to anyway... When they grow up I make them sleep in their own beds but I have 11 dog...

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My boykin has trouble driving my truck but atleast he doesn't drink and drive like my GSPs ( "bleep" germans and their beer)

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I'm saying I've seen dogs that got to the point your at without their prey drive reved up and suddenly got spooked by gun fire, muzzle blast, .22 sounds ect ect and that IMO having the dog focused on a bird if its a pointer or a retrieveing dummy ( which rev's up the prey drive in retrievers) will h...

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IMO no birds or no game animal to fall in front of the dog NO GUN EVER

unless your training a retriever

bobman

I had a shorthair that if you belled him he would just walk behind you like he was walking on eggs looking dejected, he was a heck of a good dog and would hunt like crazy without it, guns never bother him I left it on him for about a week and he still looked so forlorn I couldn't stand it. I finally...

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so my next question. i joined a bird lease. say i just take her out, let her find birds. no shooting. she's never really done any formal training on pointing or whoa. i worked her a little while she was young, with a wing on a fishing pole. how should i go about this. is this something that will co...

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Evan dont despair we were all where you are at one point in time you lucky the internet exists many of us didn't have that source let me try to clear up what has to happen where you are now the dog is fearful maybe it was exposed to some muzzle blast and now associates that unpleasant experience wit...

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Thats why I asked IMO theres nothing worse than a dove hunt and a noise sensitive dog I dont even bring my broke dogs to them...ever You need to take this dog up to the dakotas and let it point pheasants for a few days with just you and you alone shootin birds for it when they flush ( one shot per b...

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evantraylor wrote:im just bummed because im leaving to go on a big hunt friday, and was really looking foward to having her go on her first hunt.

What kind of hunt are you talking about?

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I'm not looking at it but the nose is pretty sensitive to cutting so I would probably leave it alone put and some antiseptic ointment on it

bobman

I've had two dogs with them never affected either one I would ask for whatever it costs at the vet as a reduction in price on the pup

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My experience is a CC is more trouble than its worth when hunting I wouldn't worry too much about the retrieveing just yet. If he wont come when hes called I probably wouldn't take him unless your just saying hes a little resistant but can be hacked in by repeating the command a couple times, if not...

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next go to him dragging a check cord so you can enforce it if he ignores you

bobman

dont tolerate any agressiveness get after the fox terrier and make her knock it off

someone else will have to help you about the heat thing I neuter my dogs and dont breed so I can't give you mcuh help

bobman

I like concrete or dirt floor kennels, mine are dirt and my kennels are moveable 12 x 14. Just doesn't seem natural to me to live on a grate although they are probably easier to keep clean I have a set of plans for dog houses I'll send you free if you want them they have to be emailed as an attachme...

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I'd give it a couple weeks for her to bond to you and learn to trust you AND get over her heat cycle then I would test for any signs shes had some training and start from there

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Ezzy because its a tendon to bone injury (and the poor blood flow in those areas) thats exactly the same advice the doctors have given me, unfortunately theres no rushing this recovery. But thanks for the good advice hopefully you guys can keep me entertained for the next 3-4 months :wink: There are...

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I use a Nordic track ski machine for one hour every day and I can tell you that it gets you in fantastic shape however stay off bicycles I did this a few weeks ago and my season is over Bike accident, tore the quad tendon completely off my knee, 6 months leg straight in a brace, one year total recov...

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Mine has DK lineage also, so much fun!!! hes sure a beautiful dog in that picture dont let him near any evil pheasants :mrgreen: :mrgreen: (just kidding) actaully shoot a few and post some pictures for me. I was in a accident about a month ago and wont be able to walk without crutches until January...

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liver

Hes a DK a guy gave me because he couldn't deal with him..... I fixed most of his nuttiness and he is a great phez dog

Hes a good boy.

bobman

dont worry about it, I didn't.

I know i'm right

bobman

I've never sold a dog in my life and never will, and I obviously dont breed dogs either, you see any links from me to anything??. and any GSP of decent breeding from virtually any breeder on this board could do what I stated if given a chance so can brittanies and probably alot of other breeds. That...

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I didn't say hunting pheasants ruins pups, I said it teaches them what I don't want a young and inexperienced pup to learn. Maybe as a trainer and experienced hunter you are knowledgeable and experienced enough to work out the kinks but maybe the OP is not as skillful and talented as you? The birds...

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I'll add one more thing GSPs are versatile dogs which basically means they can and will hunt everything all critters are game to dogs, we humans are the ones that get these silly specific animal ideas in our heads. My shorthairs have had days where I've killed rabbits, woodcock, deer, quail and duck...

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I guess after roughly 40 years of training GSPs on wild pheasants one of these mysterious maladies everyone frets about would of actually happened to me so far they haven't. I guess iv'e owned at least 35 GSPs in my life and trained many more for friends and every single pup has learned to hunt phea...

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the dog sounds normal there is a reason they call it the terrible twos its the peak time they will try to disobey from all your posts I would suggest you consider buying fully trained dogs and having the trainer teach you how to handle them. If training dogs frustrates you maybe its just not your th...

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I would take two long weekends off and bring her to North or South Dakota and let her work wild birds with lots of bird contacts for three days straight each time. I do that with my dogs although because of the drive I stay an entire week, and it works wonders on them and more importantly its a lot ...

bobman

not only yes but absolutely yes

the only thing I would not do is allow a bunch of guys to shoot over him, a dog does not need multiple hunters blazing away over him in his first year, really ever.

SO take him with just you or one trusted friend and take him as many times as you can

good luck

bobman

it sure was, lord do I have the "fever" bad

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Sharon wrote:What are the names of those books , Ray?

http://www.amazon.com/Training-Pointing ... 181&sr=1-1

and ray misspelled marks name

Favorite Ways to Train your Bird Dog by Mark Peyton

bobman

the fact that you live in Iowa and I assume have access to wild birds would make me take her completely off planted birds and just hunt her this fall. If you only shoot birds she points the problem will go away as she matures and gains experience, anytime you can let a dog decide something good on i...

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the fact that the dam hates the gun could very easily be man made, usaully is, so i would NOT let that be a big obstacle

what color are they??

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I always think of selling cheap ($50-75) just to keep someone from taking a dog cause its free. If they pay something they are liable to really want the pup and put some effort into it. Free isnt so good, IMHO unless you know the person real well. I agree with that 100% but like you pointed out if ...

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I would be happy to find them good homes with hunters even if I had to give them away

good luck with the female she sounds like shes worth fixing very kind of you to make the effort

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