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Wa Chukar Hunter

This is a question I have been contemplating for a while. When competing in AKC or AF - it seems the standards are identical in some ways (broke dogs) but wholly different in others. What I have found is the huge difference in race for AKC Gun Dogs and AF Shooting Dogs as well as AKC All Age and AF ...

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Blizzards Bomberstone Diva - bred by Whiterock Kennels - is the #2 Open All Age Derby for Region 7. Diva also appears in the standings for Region 7 In the Open Shooting Dog Derby Category - as well as the Region 8 Amateur All Age Derby - she has 9 placements from November 08 to May 09 Her kennel mat...

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My observations and experience has been much different than some of the posters. I find llewellins easily trainable, hard going to laid back in disposition. They are not that difficult to break steady to wing and shot and are as good as many dogs here in TX for quail. Phoenix - glad you found someth...

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Just curious if you all recommend/feed - straight hay - a complete feed - or both?

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Jetsetter or Heyu too Pete

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I watched both of them at the MT Shooting Dog - I liked 4 Rivers Cover Girl better - but Commander did a nice job too.

Wa Chukar Hunter

Generally speaking - I carry a saddle gun - either a short .410 in a scabard or a .22 with rat shot in a holser attached to my horses breast collar - I carry my tracker or garmin on the front left side attached to a ring on my saddle - 2 gallons of water on each side of the rear of the saddle - and ...

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If what you say is true - then the FDSB irish setter is doomed too - there are as many members in the NLGDC as there are in the NRSFTC - and based upon different websites for both breeds/strains - as many breeders. When is the last time any serious trialler bred to a show dog in any setter breed. So...

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What makes a llewellin a llewellin - is the same thing that makes a GSP a GSP - bloodline. The FDSB when it recognized the llewellins in 1902 - determined what was a llewellin setter. The breeders then took this and bred llewellin setter to llewellin setter down through the years to present day - ju...

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Although, most llewellins that are field trialled are in walking venues - llewellins are capable horseback dogs too. Just last week I ran two in the Texas Shooting Dog Championship - Sunday I may be heading up to Oklahoma to run 4 dogs up there. My llewellins and I continually surprise judges when w...

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"To be registered in the Field Dog Stud Book as a Llewellin a dog must have no ancestors who do not trace to Field's Duke, Statter's Rhoebe, a Laverack (any Laverack) with the only exception to that being Armstrong's Old Kate from whom the Gleam blood comes and who during her lifetime was not consid...

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That is not correct - All champion dogs MUST be DNA'd.

There are several different breeds that require DNA and other stuff to run in their futurities.

Keith

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According to the internet the longest living dog was 29 yrs and 5 months - an austrailian shepard

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highcotton wrote:
slistoe wrote:Paperwork in most cases.
Ditto

Charles - You know there is more difference in english to llewellin than paperwork

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The problem was not with "Hank" it was with his sire "Irish King Bondhu Ashley" and dogs bred by Al King after "Hank" became so popular - with IKBA listed as the sire. Most recently llewellin people have been doing our part to train and trial llewellin setters in both AKC/AF field trials and NSTRA -...

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Al King affliated himself with the IPDBA - The information on Hank and Dash is not correct - to my knowledge neither Hank or Dash had registration pulled from the FDSB. After May 2003? Al and Drenda King had all their priviledges suspended by the FDSB. It was a 3 yr suspension and had some stipulati...

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AGE = Aerospace Ground Equipment - CAA = Career Airman Advisor?

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Cheaters will do so, regardless of the tools or rules. It is a moral choice and making rules to govern morality is not very successful.

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Congrats - those grounds at West Point, TX are challenging to handle.

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Because - not everyone has access to abundant wild birds . :roll:

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They already are a rare commodity - no one has the extra pins or cylinders that I have talked to - so, if I lose the pin or cylinder I guess it will become an expensive paper weight.

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So, I was surfing the net looking for an NEF .22 and finally found one. Hopefully, it will be here soon. I was told by several suppliers last month that the NEF .22 is no longer manufactured and could not find any for sale on-line - all listed as out-of-stock. I had one years ago and it was a fanta...

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pointer - but what would I call my favorite breed - I run llewellins and own irish setters

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AKC Gun Dog/ AF horseback shooting dogs

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Dog needs more experience - I had a dog a couple seasons ago that had that problem too - a summer on the prairie cleared it right up.

False pointing can be an indicator of an exceptional good nose - and while a blessing it can be a curse - often leads to many non-productives.

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Gary - Only a 1/2 mile? She must have shortened up a bit since SD :wink: Bad weather Whatcha talking about? We were about 65-70F here and me and my son worked some dogs and put a new floor in my horse trailer. :D I hunt all my trial dogs when I get a chance - we hunted 7 or 8 days in SD over about 1...

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Well, let me tell you my latest experience - I lost my Alfa 209 primer gun at a field trial - luckily I had my .32 to finish my season with - however, a .32 is cost prohibitive to train day in and day out with. So, rather than spending another $200 with shipping for another Alfa - I spent $60 on Kim...

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Hmmm - Looks like rain here in TX too.

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I don't look to AF Shooting Dogs Isn't Strut a Shooting Dog for all practical purposes? For those of you that have seen him run? Fancy Yes, Good around his game, Yes,,, but a true All Age???? If your plans are to add some run,, probably wouldn't be real high on the list,, and his daddy was shorter ...

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Merry Christmas from Texas - I had a wonderful morning training dogs.

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Doug - There you go again - making me homesick. I miss chukar hunting over big running, steady to wing and shot dogs! :) 2 yrs in Texas and I haven't even shot at a wild bird. heck, in Washington I could drive 60 miles (if that) be pursuing quail and chukar over big running dogs on public land!!!!!!...

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Wow, this is an interesting thread. I learned alot - but I am sure glad I don't mess with GSP's - reading this made my head hurt - How you guys keep track of all that stuff is amazing.

Keith

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Dang - I must be one of those clutzes - I've lost pins, cylinders, and whole guns - Most recent was my Alpha 209 - which I will get again eventually. Right now I have been using a Kimar - we have already had to do some stuff to keep it functioning after only about 200 blanks - I like primer guns - I...

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You know how many guys started in NSTRA and progressed up to AF shooting dog stakes and even All Age handlers - I know of at least one guy besides myself - and there are probably alot more. Through this whole process I have participated in NSTRA, Akc Hunt tests/field trials - and walking and horseba...

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First off - I didn't read the article - I let my subscription lapse in September. I used to play in NSTRA - but moved to horseback trials - for a couple reasons - but one of them is that - I like a very nice broke dog. Another is it is very expensive to run in. Last time I entered a double/double in...

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Ray - I worked an irish setter out of Speedie Edie and Rocky's Straight Arrow bred by Jack Flynn- Man what a dog ! Jim Michaletz and I just loved to watch her run and point birds. I also had a full brother to Speedie Edie - named Gus that I worked this summer for Jim Baker - in that dogs first trial...

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Doc Boser's dogs are first rate - Al and Deb Fazenbaker are close by in OH. There are others. I own 3 irish setters - one is FDSB registered from Don Beauchamp and is a great young dog. One is AKC registered and comes for Stan ZZZ's kennel. One is from Georgia Brown's kennels and is AKC registered. ...

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Brenda - How much Exceed Performance do you feed to each dog? I am having to feed my field trial dogs 8 cups a day to maintain weight and condition for them.

We work them pretty hard - roading them 50 min to an hour 3 times a week and running from horseback 1 to 2 times a week.

Keith Hickam Sr.

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Just wondering if any of you know or can recommend someone that is raising/selling pheasants around Waco, TX or the surrounding area.

For the first time in a long time - I have a dog that I really need to get into those birds to raise her excitement level and kill a bunch for her.

Thanks

Keith

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Ernie - Cool - I always liked that dog. Tell RJ I said - Hello. We are doing pretty well down here in trials too - 4 trials 10 ribbons.

I am still pulling my old black two horse around. Gonna get a new floor and have it rewired - so that I can get another 5 yrs out of it.

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I can flat out attest that - Wildweeds aka Ernie did a HELLUVA job on the trailer in question. It was awesome.

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Well, we took our young derbies and ran in the Texas Red Setter Club weekend trial. It was great - we won the Open shooting Dog with Mac . I took 2nd and 3rd in the Open Derby with Diva and Knikki (littermates) on Saturday. As well as Diva winning the Open Derby the next day handled by a client. Now...

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Things are tough here in TX - we have not been moving many pups. Training is slow too.

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Well, now the fun begins - I graduated 24 yrs, 3 months and 7 days ago. I retired 4 yrs ago.

Congratulations

It will change his life.

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Buy a Tracker or a Garmin - they are very effective.

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Thanks - It really was a fun day.

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Talent certainly helps - but having owners that support you. As well as a beautiful place in SD to train in the summer is really the key.

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Three young llewellin setters - that I trained/handled and recommended breeding of, did very well at the Irish Setter Club of San Antonio this weekend - two littermates received 1st and 4th and another Texas bred llewellin and kennel mate was 2nd.

In the Open Derby.

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Thanks At summer camp we road for distance - either 6, 8, 10 or 12 miles - usually 10. But, here in TX - I road for time because I have no reliable way of telling the distance travelled so - I started roading them for 20 minutes and will eventually work up to 1 hr. The setup we have in SD is optimal...

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Just thought I would post a pic of one of my favorite setters - Is it a llewellin strain or english? [/img] http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/thumbs/3859Rock_0414.jpg These discussions are sometimes entertaining, often an opportunity to learn and sometimes to enlighten dog people. As in most things. D...

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