Gun Dog Forum

birddogger

One of my GSP's was afraid of fireworks and thunder until the day he died. If a dog is afraid of these things, it will not get better with age. For what ever reason, it bothers some dogs and some it doesn't. Nothing to do with age or experience.

Charlie

birddogger

In a sense gun shyness is man made and in a sense it isn't. I believe that most gun shy dogs are genetically defective animals. You can take 100 dogs and if they're well bred, not even worry about breaking them to the gun. Then one will head for the hills at a loud noise. It is mainly in the temper...

birddogger

Well, the method I use (or lack of )and my old man before me is to just go hunting with 2 experienced dogs and just take 1 or 2 pups about 4 to 6 months old to tag along, Did they react to gunfire ? Of cause they did, but it didn't take long before they figured out that Bang= birds falling from the...

birddogger

TonyS wrote:Scott,

That ranch looks like the kinda place a guy could hurt his shoulder shooting so much.

May be, but it is way out of my class. :roll:

Charlie

birddogger

Not to worry, just inexperience.

Charlie

birddogger

Remember the dog is much more sensitive to different noises and vibrations than we are. The shotgun is very controlled in comparison to an aerial explosion such as fireworks or thunder. A rifle is much worse than a shotgun for most dogs. Ezzy This nails it! They are totally different sounds to the ...

birddogger

Hondo wrote:
birddogger wrote:IMO, most any dry food is fine. BTW, I have never had to have a dog's teeth cleaned.

Charlie
What's your secret?

Like Garrison, I give them a bone from time to time. IME, they don't' require the same care as a child or any other human does.

Charlie

birddogger

gonehuntin' wrote:One thing about this board Charlie, there's a lot of good trainers on here and if people think you're full of doo-doo, you're gonna get called on it. Tough audience!

Oh yeah, but no problem here.

Charlie

birddogger

I feed my dogs Kirkland chicken and rice. Seems to do the trick. We switched from pro plan when my pup was 6 months, he had a bad reaction and the vet said it could or could not be caused by the food, we took the safe route and switched. Never looked back, plus the savings on my wallet is nice. Sav...

birddogger

The gm debate is ridiculous and driven by a billion dollar organic industry who's only recourse for high prices is to condemn, damage and try to vilify modern farming. Its driven by conspiracy theorists, the uneducated masses and social media. The anti's are hysterical and willfully misinformed.......

birddogger

IMO, most any dry food is fine. BTW, I have never had to have a dog's teeth cleaned.

Charlie

birddogger

Good posts by birddog 1968 IMO.

Charlie

birddogger

I feed my dogs Kirkland chicken and rice. Seems to do the trick. We switched from pro plan when my pup was 6 months, he had a bad reaction and the vet said it could or could not be caused by the food, we took the safe route and switched. Never looked back, plus the savings on my wallet is nice. Sav...

birddogger

Again what is handling for a pointer? You don't handle them...You just go look for them, unless you are talking about being able to call them in (if they are within hearing range) and when I was young I was OK with that but no more. Charlie You don't handle them? Then how is it that some are more s...

birddogger

Bluesky2012 wrote:Again what is handling for a pointer?

You don't handle them...You just go look for them, unless you are talking about being able to call them in (if they are within hearing range) and when I was young I was OK with that but no more.

Charlie

birddogger

Beniciahd wrote:Believe it or not, there are some real honest Americans in California. We may be surrounded by the odd but leave the big cities and you'll find the real California. Any who, I went with the Delta upland and I'm looking forward to training with it.

I am sure this is true.

Charlie

birddogger

gonehuntin' wrote:With that criteria, the retriever will be far harder. When it comes to the handling, land and water, it can take a long time and lot of work to develop.

Much of what you list for a pointer is natural with the exception of the honoring on the retrieve.

My thoughts exactly.

Charlie

birddogger

I agree that we have gotten way too technical in this thread. What is being discussed here is just not that technical/complicated.

Charlie

birddogger

RickB, You and polmaise are correct about the true definition of "positive" and I am well aware of it. But I just wanted to say that my posts on this thread are using the term "positive training" as it is meant in the context of Bill T's OP. I also agree with Evan, that with any method of training, ...

birddogger

Positive only does not work for dogs or children, which I see evidence of on a regular basis. Times do change, but principles do not.

Charlie

birddogger

Vision wrote:Why does anybody still live in California?

Because the majority of people there are bleeding heart, tree hugging liberals

Charlie

birddogger

Congrats!! and stay committed.

Charlie

birddogger

Congrats!

Charlie

birddogger

EvanG wrote:My mistake. I initially called this Walking fetch. It's Walking Hold.

Here's a clip to give you a look at the correct application of Walking HOLD. http://youtu.be/qvZcWzZ5TCo

EvanG

Knew what you meant.

Charlie

birddogger

High Voltage wrote:One of the best things we did was to join NAVHDA, great group of people that help you to train your dog. Check out their website for a chapter near you http://www.navhda.org/

+1

Charlie

birddogger

RickB wrote:You write this?

I doubt it but that is what the subject of the thread makes it sound.

Charlie

birddogger

This is a very important step before going any further IME. In fact, every single step needs to be flawless before moving forward!

Good luck,
Charlie

birddogger

diplomat019 wrote:charlie- i bowed out a while ago lol. you had a nice run tho haha

id like to speak on behalf of the whole thread. lets shut this thang down and before we start to sound like the dog food threads lol.

ENJOY MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND!

Enjoy yours too!!

Charlie

birddogger

The laws are what they are and we have to abide by them but it doen't make them always right. Same sex marriage goes against everything that is natural, wholesome, healthy and sacred whether it affects my life or not. BTW, I have friends, family members and co-workers who are gay and have nothing ag...

birddogger

My dogs will pull the short ones out. I have both but always use the long ones with no problems. Really no way of knowing until you try them.

Charlie

birddogger

Liberalism at work, r;egardless of definitions.

Charlie

birddogger

Oh, BTW, you got me.

Charlie

birddogger

ezzy333 wrote:Del Lolo decided he would take a couple of weeks off and hopefully he can get back to the dogs instead of trying so hard to get into arguments with everyone.

Ezzy

Thank you.

Charlie

birddogger

OH please! That is not only absurd but is not the official/correct defenition and you know it. That is LIBERALISM at it's finest. :roll: Charlie Haha. I just copied and pasted from that site. Times and definitions are a changing I guess. Still doesn't make it right but that was my point. Thanks, Ch...

birddogger

OH please! That is not only absurd but is not the official/correct defenition and you know it. That is LIBERALISM at it's finest. :roll:

Charlie

birddogger

While we are into definitions, you may also want to look up the definition of marriage.

Charlie

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Ez4 wrote:"Classical Liberalism" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism

And what I am saying is that liberalism has become something it was never meant to be and it is not the same as libertarian. Besides that, everybody knows what is meant when liberalism is referred to today.

Charlie

birddogger

So you are saying the founding fathers were libertarians (the same meaning as liberals) and gave us that form of government? I don't think so.

Charlie

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diplomat019 wrote:a libertarian is a classic liberal.

No way, at least not what liberalism has become but call it what you want. As far as marriage is concerned, Ezzy is dead on and that is not an opinion but a fact!!

Charlie

birddogger

Just my simple esponse to the OP..... :roll: :roll:

Charlie

birddogger

Once again, "save me from the good people"!!!

Charlie

birddogger

ezzy333 wrote:Would be my guess you can correct her aggression but it will take some consistent training. In my mind worth the gamble.

Ezzy

I also believe it would be worth the gamble and maybe not as big of a gamble as it may seem at the moment.

Charlie

birddogger

Pretty soon these skills will be lost forever. As a young lad I used to watch this programme on tv every week. If it were shown in this country today there would be almost a civil revolution .The world has gone mad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBnFBnCO23E&feature=youtu.be I will have to agree w...

birddogger

Well you can't have everything in life. I gave up my back yard when I got 3 dogs. The trade -off is fine with me. :) That's it and tripe or nothing else will fix it. You either have to accept it or keep the dog away from the areas of concern. Not trying to be negative, but as said, there are trade ...

birddogger

There are as many opinions as the are trainers. what works for me might not for you and what you think of as a mistake I might not. I don't see a issue with stroking up the dogs tail on point. I don't think it helps but I don't think it hurts. Once the dog is whoa trained I wouldn't see a issue wit...

birddogger

How old is he? From what you say, I doubt there is a problem. I don't think he is flagging but just birddy and doesn't quite have it pinned down.

Charlie

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This is IRRELEVANT to this post.... In fact most OPPOSITE from the OP than it could be.... :roll: :lol: :mrgreen: Proper use of the collar isnt an issue here. User avatar kibafang90 Rank: Junior Hunter Posts: 83Joined: 16 Sep 2013, 16:07 Someone needs to explain why proper use is irrelevant to non-...

birddogger

No need for the remarks just because I asked. Editted by Ezzy to remove some crude language the forum doesn't allow. I'm sorry if I offended you. Not my intent. I have the flu so have an excuse for being abrupt. Back to bed. (Go Montreal .Go.) Sharon, you have nothing to apologize for. You said not...

birddogger

Sharon wrote:Nice plan if you can find them. Getting few and far between where I live.

Well. I just noticed where you live. Lucky guy.

Yep, easier said than done in many places.

Charlie

birddogger

All good advise but you need to get started. The longer you let him chase, the harder and longer it will take to correct, especially if he is catching some of the birds when they land, as you implied.

Charlie

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