Gun Dog Forum

BoJack

And my opinion is and I stand by it that not all Champions are produced by Champions.And pedigrees doesn't Make the dog.A Champions can come from the different genetic makeups of of dogs and their lines in 4 generations.It's what each brings to the genetic table,and they don't have to be Champions t...

BoJack

Ron R Wrote:
"His pedigree does not have a hint of selective breeding (other than Crow's Little Joe)IMO."
The statement confuses me, How do you know that??? You're saying the owners of all the dogs in his pedigree didn't have anything to do with who was bred to who??? Someone sure had to huh?

BoJack

What Ezzy said in his last post.A pedigree is just a piece of paper and not capable of proving itself in the field,The Dog Is. I looked at a pedigree of a dog a few years ago that someone brought for me to look at and also the dog they brought. I chuckled to myself after looking at what I call a Mut...

BoJack

BrettBryan , You're talking all-age caliber dogs("over in the next county") dogs.Dogs that run Three hour heats at the National,and the coarse they run equals approx Ten miles I think.Not dogs for the average bird dog man.And some years they probably release a truckload of birds daily on the coarse ...

BoJack

If you're buying the dog from Bruce Shaffer at Almost Heaven Kennels,he should be able to tell you Anything you want to know about the dog and the dogs in the pedigree.And you can bank on what he tells you.The ped doesn't look like any of his breedings.I've worked dogs with Bruce and have seen his d...

BoJack

There's not a pup born on Earth worth 5000.00-7500.00 I don't care who the parents are,what they've accomplished or what the pups look like at 8 wks.Including Guardrail.Pups are a Gamble.You're not going to be able to tell what they'll turn out to be for a couple of years.Heck you can buy a Guardrai...

BoJack

tommyboy, As I stated earlier-"I think there's good representives of most of the lines" And you can't judge a line by seeing one or two dogs from that line.It depends on the breeding comptability and complimentary results of the stud and female being bred,no matter what the lines.The old saying "lik...

BoJack

Vagas, meyerstenn says you're dreaming.That's probably what he's done over the years,dream about the day he could get one of them Elhew dogs,but apparently it didn't happen,now he's bitter.It doesn't matter what anyone thinks of Elhew dogs or any other line,what matters is the person that owns them ...

BoJack

I think there's good representives of most of the lines.Depends on their genetics and natural abilities they're born with.My lines of choice are Elhew,Guardrail,Miller,or a combination of those lines.

BoJack

She should show them flusherman what an experienecd top notch pheaseant dog she is.Have a great time,it'll probably be your last trip after she shows them flushers up.

BoJack

"Character, I know I had to do things growing up I didn't necesarily want to do.....In hindsight I'm glad I was exposed to those things" Yea we all had to do things growing up that we didn't want to do,but I don't think bribing or trying to force a kid to hunt when they don't want to is on lifes lis...

BoJack

Why would you want to force a child to do something that they don't want to do or have any interest in??

BoJack

Sounds like she'll come along nicely with experience.

BoJack

Oh well,he looked that way moving also and was Broke at 10 mos.(now deceased)

BoJack

ALSO IN MY POSTs -"along with all the other good attributes" True- if you breed for one specific trait you'll sometimes loose some of the total picture,and sometimes Alot of the total picure. Isn't that where Selective Breeding comes in?? Hopefully breeding for the Total dog.Those major circuit bree...

BoJack

JB's Elhew Shooter- at 5 mos--- 12 O'clock Class

BoJack

"a 12 O'clock tail is not always the end all of a dog.....just the tail end of a dog... "

No but to Pointer and Setter guysI(including most judges, and some hunters) along with all the other good attributes in a dog that 12 O'clock tail exudes CLASS.

BoJack

Breed to an opposite partner that has a High tail set and Straight tail.You may not eridicate the problem with one breeding but it's a start.You can end up with some pups that still has the fault and some that doesn't.Keep something and breed in the future from ones who doesn't have the fault to oth...

BoJack

Have always gotten them out with just a table fork or a fine tooth comb and nothing added.

BoJack

Second the call to Jimmy Emerson at Clearspring Kennels.I've known him since the 70's and he's a stand up honest Bird Dog Man and a Pro.He's had good success running Pointers and Setters.He had a good one in his string when he was campaigning not long ago.Bluebell Promise(Gridiron son).

BoJack

If I'm not mistaken Frank Henderson owns Calico Kennels and the Tracys own Tracehaven Kennels.Not sure if Mike Tracy still has the Setter Stone Tavern Matrix or not(a Good one)Top winner and producer.I heard that Matrix was sold not long ago.Matrix has to be getting up there in age though.

BoJack

http://members4.boardhost.com/coverdogforsale/
There's one on there now for sale,with wins.Guy's getting out of dogs.Cheap he says

BoJack

There are some good field trial Setter breeders out there.Alot more then there use to be.Where are you located in the Northeast? I have a friend in Md.that has been pretty sucessful in Horseback trials with his Setters and breeds a litter now and then.Some breeders on the link below,but most are out...

BoJack

MedPet 4 in 1 once a year.
http://www.westernsporting.com/mm5/merc ... ry_Code=SP

BoJack

Great balls of joy!

BoJack

STICK IT OUT.She'll settle in eventually.If you give in she Wins and you Lose.

BoJack

Orange plastic coated nylon.I like the O ring,easier to leash a dog up.

BoJack

Nice pics

BoJack

My condolances. What a shame.

BoJack

Man that's a Tough one.

BoJack

Good luck with him.Hope he makes you a Great dog.

BoJack

Tri-Tronics,Whatever model suits your needs.Made In America,Quality,Excellent customer service.

BoJack

Dogs with this problem should NEVER even be considered for breeding even if they could.It can be passed on to the next generation,and also can become Cancerous. I "bleep" sure wouldn't buy a pup from anyone who had this in their lines or condones breeding it. I would ask for a refund or another pup,...

BoJack

The kennel that I refered to in my earlier post(no name given in the post) is now in the process of retectifying the problem I have with a pup from them.I'm sure the owner is a man of his word.

BoJack

Well known Gouse Dog trainer John Yates passed away yesterday.He had been battleing his health for sometime.John also spear headed and was president and spokesman for the American Sporting Dog Association.He fought for the rights of all dog owners accross the Country to ensure we'd all be able to tu...

BoJack

I have removed them from my Setter with the small end of a large comb and also have done so with a table fork,without applying anything.

BoJack

These are some Excellent Grouse Dog Videos of Premier grouse dog trainer Dave Hughes and Lloyd Murray of the well known Long Gone Setters kennel working their dogs on grouse.Video was shot by Paul Fuller host of the My Outdoor TV show.Other helpful videos and training tips on the site also.Great sit...

BoJack

Thanks for the replies on retrieving.

BoJack

Is Retrieving required in the Gun Dog stakes? Couldn't find it in the book unless I overlooked it.

BoJack

Ithaca Model 37 Featherlight 16ga.(1959 model) One of the Sweetest bird guns ever made.Light as a blind stick,beautiful swing,and Dead birds.Wouldn't trade it for Any shotgun made today.Alot of guys today buy shotsguns because of the Name,High price or Popularity,just to say they have one.Especially...

BoJack

Some Nice prospects from Wild Covey Kennels,posted on another board:

http://members3.boardhost.com/coverdog/ ... 58970.html

BoJack

Up, You're good at starting threads on this board about certain dogs,and then fading away for some reason.Are you actually looking for a Raildancer line pup or dog or are you just chewing the fat again? Did you ever contact Dr Boser about the Red Setter pup you were intersted in getting a while back...

BoJack

Good choice.There are some good breeders out there.Phillip's White Line kennels has some good Miller bred dogs.Some Elhew lines are good,but If you're looking for Elhew lines in the State of Mo.PM me and I'll tell you a kennel to stay away from,with e-mails to prove why.Pinehill Kennels in Tenn.has ...

BoJack

Sharp looking pup.

BoJack

Ditto on Jim Emerson's Clear Spring Kennels.Have known him since the 70"s and he's a stand up Bird Dog Man,with some good dogs and beautiful grounds.He's bred quite a few trial winners also.Him and his wife Ginny are Gracious people.
http://clearspringkennels.netkennel.com/

BoJack

PM'd you.click on the links in the PM

BoJack

Pheasants will not recall.Doesn't matter what bird you use to train on.Most use homing pigeons and or quail,as I do.You can get some good flying birds from Zuchovich Gamebirds in Pa.And he ships.Or get some young homers and train to a coup.If you have native grouse it's a good opportunity to train o...

BoJack

I owned the 2001 AWDF(American Working Dog Federation-(All Breed)Tracking Champion(Schutzhund),And he tracked at the speed of a Runaway Freight Train,and was Accurate in all his tracks while also negotiating corners,curves and indicating evidence articles along the track.He accomplished his Champion...

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BoJack

Up,
Not many bites on that one.

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