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I've judged some dogs that were "walked" at horseback trials and have tended to be more impressed with those dogs when they hang on the edges, have speed, stamina, and show just how broke they are when a limb find occurs and it takes the handler a long time to walk to the dog. But, from what I have...

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I would think the handler would hope for any advantage they could get, so I don't see why the horseback handler would gripe about the walking handler. I think I would prefer the extra benefit of being able to see better and get to my dog faster

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I would start by joining a dog training/testing club like NAVHDA or VHDF....for a very small investment, you will gain access to training knowledge and help that will help you reach your goals and make a bunch of new friends to boot!

http://www.navhda.org/

and

http://www.vhdf.org/

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I don't think it's recognized by the AF

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I had a buddy who use "ROCK and ROLL' as his release comand for his setters to start hunting.

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I would utilize a stakeout chain if possible with a young pup like that.

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PntrRookie wrote:
Elkhunter wrote:...from someone I know and trust.
Learned that the hard way!

What happend PR? Did you get to see the pup or parents work before you bought?

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I understand Elhew, I was specifically talking about the Local...Washington, Idaho folks that called me. I didn't fly down to get Tess from Mississippi either :lol: I did fly back to SL on Business and ended up going to Paris to arrange with Doc. Griswold about 20 years ago for a pup but I told him ...

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Well I offered to show Momma and Pups on birds, wild or planted...but like i said only one of the buyers I sold to would take the time to come look.

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I don't know what people look for I bred a litter back in 2010 out of a fantastic female I own and figured pics of her on wild birds with nothing but her collar would be impressive...cuz I hunt her without any training devices, but people really seemed more interested in the Ped than the performance...

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Go to the link below and all will be answered

http://www.region1fieldtrials.blogspot.com/

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seems like the moderater culled that one

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Nice!!!! Huns are one of my favorite quaries too!

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Red setters and AKc setters were the same thing from aprox 1950-1976, when the AKC parent club pulled reciprocity on registration, so I would bet you that 99% of the "FIELD BRED" AKC dogs go back to Red setter stock. As I recall some dogs whelped in 1976 and not registered till after reciprosity was...

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you want to go here

http://comebackredsetters.nrsftc.com/

or

http://bearcatsetters.nrsftc.com/

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http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f227/ymepointer/May2011Birddogtraining048.jpg I would say that in general most pointers are not as enamoured with water as say german bred Gsp's but some will go anywhere anytime to get a bird or duck in there mouth. This pup was 9 months old and towed a 30 ft chec...

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Go here and you should be able to find some help with a good stud dog....

http://www.bwcoa.com/

I wonder if the the Black GSP''s have there own club yet or not?

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Not many up in the handle area, your better off in Dayton, that is pretty good pheasant country.

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Great news Pam

Congrats!

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Nice pics everyone!..Keep um coming will ya

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If I have a copy(and I think I do) I will send it to you free of charge.

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You may want to check out some of the setters running in the NW region. Mike Sttots has a couple that are REALLY nice, not sure but think they have some TKS in them.

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Bob Wehle wrote in Wing and Shot that he had a phenomenal pup whose bite he checked one day. The bit was jacked and Wehle said he wouldn't stay in the kennel. To you breeders out there, do you look at bite at all? What's your philosophy on breeding dogs with jacked bites? If you look negatively on ...

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cute pup! Can't read those photobucket peds though, not sure if anyone else can but they are to small for me to see

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I had an aquaintance once who bred to one of Millers dogs at that time and it came back wrong sire, I believe the descrepancy was Millers issue as they shippped the bitch to him.

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they can run in AF events, why even bother with AKC...NAVDA, GNA of PP club, you have NSTRA and AF that should cover any type of event your after I would suspect. I would just pray the AKC never gets that breed into it's registry

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Does the ABHA have a website. I thought they used to by I can't find it anymore, just the NBHA site comes up when i google it

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They both look great Matt, Sunny looks good pointing and Backing

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Congrats to all the winners, Way to go Buggys and Dan and Doc and Mrs. Favor

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Nice Pic

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Cnograts on the new pup...now we need pics!!!!!!!

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I sold a pup to a couple and guaranteed the pup for life.....I said, if anything genetic is wrong with this pup not age related I will give you your money back....they asked me to put it in writing so I had a friend of mine who was a lawyer write up a document and I signed my life away.....I hope th...

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Don, your right they haven't gone down any....entries are int he 40-50 dollar range and wranglers are not provided at most of the trials anymore. Course you can foot handle in a horseback stake but it aint easy

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I had to scratch a couple of entries to that Trial

...Wish I could have made it. Which stakes did you watch?

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Hey Doc,

Is that the litter your wife is getting one out of?

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That looks like a nice one. Have you placed a 9X11 sheet pan with about 1 inch of water in it to help with the hummidity? Ya need maximum surface area for the water to air interface.

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tthaden wrote:Seems to be an awlful lot of rumors flying around at Nationals about me... ...

Sure, but what I want to know is "is it really your natural hair color"

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you won't know till that female is finished on her game. Keep an eye on the Field trial placements in Major stakes....I like to look at bloodlines that consistently win/compete at the trials listed below. American Field Quail Futurity National Derby Championships Continental Championship National Fr...

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Are you sure ya got the right pic up there

...Congrats on a great accomplishment. Nice looking dog for sure

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I don't own a pure Elhew but I do know that Welhe stated his aim in breeding his line was intelligence and ease of breaking. Most of my miller dogs did not necessarily strike me as super smart but were super athletic and driven. I have a Sir Lancelot bitch I got from Holye Eaton that is the easiest ...

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Did you guys have any wild bird finds, I know there are pheasant, Huns and Valleys there? Doc, did you get any pics you can share, your pics are always appreciated

Oh and Congrats on the placement to your wife

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Whats a Miller Pointer ? and a HTA dog ? are these new breeds similar to a goldendoodel or something like that ? :mrgreen: Miller Pointers are Redtick/English hound crossed with the english pointer (explains the big run and bottom end) and HTA are crossed with GSP's (explains there good nose and so...

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Yes I'm serious the guy owns the grounds, don't you think dogs pattern after being trained there daily, also he releases birds to train on cause his land does'nt hold many wild birds . Putting birds out in the same places in likely cover day after day and his dogs will have a huge advantage. Just w...

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I had a litter of 10 last year and as little pups some had more muscle control than others but all ended up pretty nice and straight at the end. i don't think ya got anything to worry about as long as the sire and dam had nice straight tails the pups should aproximate that when they mature

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ElhewPointer wrote:To the OP, I think your question has been answered. I will refrain from commenting on other post. :roll:

Come on EP, you know you want to ...let er fly

, you have more practical exp with this line than anyone else who has posted.

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brad27 wrote:There are even some elhew GSP's if you believe the rumors

I thought most GSP's these days had HTA in um
I thought the story was HTA had setter in him!

I think Ross Calawy can tell ya for sure

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Anyone hear of these dogs or have any experience hunting behind one? Are they an official AKC breed? Or are they just English pointer? Just curious. Mr. Welhe started his line when he was quite young and bred it for over 50 years IIRC. He had very good success with his line, wrote a couple of good ...

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brad27 wrote:There are even some elhew GSP's if you believe the rumors

I thought most GSP's these days had HTA in um

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Great work Pam!!!!

Congrats on a VERY NICE win

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Here is a link that might be of interest, this fellow with the weim that won this grouse trial got his pup from a member of the HWA.

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum ... ost3757615

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