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DonF wrote:Boy we seem to be making quite a bit out of training. Actually the less you train, the more you train.

What? I think I'll just leave some puppies in the dog yard for a couple months....then again when they are 3....they should be steady all on their own.

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Nice pics Don!

I wonder how the dog in the second picture can wear 3 collars?

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Those F&L flash collar trackers are nice.

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FWIW - I know for a fact, from more than one professional trainer/handler, that there are dogs that WILL NOT run when they have the Astro on. They will stay right in front of the horse and go absolutely nowhere. Put a tracker collar on the same dog and it is GONE...outta here. Can they tell the dif...

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I agree with Neil....even though the prongs/training collar module are removable, the unit should not be allowed for competition.

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Welcome...did you know of Tom Loy, he breeds Gordons under the Tallgrass kennel name. He lived near Grand Forks for a while, worked at the AFB. Then he moved out to Idaho.

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ARTICLE II Definition of Professional and Amateur Section 1. Any person who received or has received, either directly or indirectly, compensation for training or handling dogs, including handling of dogs on a plantation or shooting preserve, or any person who as an amateur handles a dog not solely ...

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Section 1. Any person who receives or has received, either directly or indirectly, compensation for training or handling dogs (including handling of dogs on a plantation or shooting preserve) other than his own or those of an immediate family member, is not an amateur. Any amateur who handles a dog...

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Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:Wyndancer "I'm interested in this" meaning what??

Were you comparing marrying your niece to a canine breeding of uncle x niece? That one was worse from a genetic standpoint than the other? Or even mother x son?

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Vonzeppelinkennels wrote: Good Luck with the litter & everyone needs to remember dogs are NOT people.

I'm interested in this.

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Shags, the point I was trying to get across is that sometimes a mother x son breeding isn't as "tight" as people knee jerk to.

For the OP....the genie is out of the bottle, good, bad or average.

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Now, I realize we're talking Llews here, and they are all inbred to heck, but the OP hasn't even touched on whether the dam is really wound up (as far as COI goes), or the sire to the daddy puppy either. And whether or not the mating that produced the daddy puppy is a high COI mating.

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The perfect dog has yet to be bred.

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What I see the amateur do....when they don't have their dog, they stop. All the pros will ride to the front, IMO for two reasons. 1)They trust the dog is to the front and, 2) by riding to the front it opens more area for the scout to go look for the dog. The amateurs handcuff their scouts unnecessar...

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A short article with a positive perspective...and a Wyndancer sighting My cover is blown. I wrote the following for another blog. As you'll see I had little to do with it. Back in May John Zeman from the MN GSP asked me about the availability of holding a training day at Four Brooks WMA. John wasn'...

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RayGubernat wrote: Who said horses were dumb animals?? Grrrr.

RayG

If they were dumb, we couldn't train them

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Glad you got a tee shirt, seems like all I get is a pickup truck full of garbage to haul away after a trial. Since you bring up the subject of protecting the sport of pure bred dogs, and with your vast experience, keeping in mind I do not advocate breeding mutts (although AKC show people have repea...

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Wyndancer ever hosted a trial on your property? A lot of personal time to prepare, diesel fuel, gas for ATV's and the dog and finding a raft of volunteers that can be counted on to plant birds and other trivial chores. After the trial starts you listen to complaints all coming from people that won'...

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Luminary Setters wrote:.....and will probably discontinue the use of my grounds for AKC trials..., Unless they can make a strong case otherwise.

Yeah, that'll fix the dying sport..... :roll:

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Jerry,

Did you register the entire litter? Or do have have the AKC "blue" papers that need to be filled out and then sent in...I guess I could debate that the dog isn't registered until the paperwork is filled out and the $35 bones sent to AKC. As you well know, some buyers don't register their dog.

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Section 1: No dog shall be eligible to be entered in a licensed or member field trial unless it is an eligible breed that is at least six (6) months of age and is either individually registered with the AKC or individually registered with a foreign or domestic registry organization whose pedigrees a...

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Hey Joe.....what did Lisa Pollack think of Mile Post 9?

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Hey Doug....I have a question. How bad does your life suck....that makes you do this to us?

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Cajun, They local Brit club and the V club have paired up over the last couple of years. They hold each hold a HT on the same grounds on the same weekend. It can be a logistical nightmare in a couple of ways. 1) Handler conflicts, 2) Dog course conflicts. Then you have to have a huge number of judge...

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Jerry, I think it a little of both...but more that a certain pro isn't doing HT dogs anymore. Years back, and you probably recall, the HT program in MN was a owner/handler/trainer deal. Yes, they was Joe Leblanc that would work some dogs for people but the pro was really a rare deal. Then Chad came ...

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Question for field trialers...what does this exactly mean "Sonora’s race was excellent for the most part but her finish lacked the desired drive as she became overly intent on hunting." I'm not understanding what is meant by that statement. Was she hunting and not running fast enough? Or was she hu...

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...looking for 18-20 more dogs or we're going to have to pull the plug.

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All....we'd like to get to 40 dogs.....at 22-23 as it stands.

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Closes in few days. How do you see the amateur shaping up? Also, probably going to scratch my Chica.....not enough time to work her.

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A divided find...As a judge, with brief consult with the judging partner, will declare a find divided. Then I let the handlers work out which will flush...and sometimes they both flush. Before they do flush, I tell them that one shot will suffice. And both handlers normally bust a cap. :roll:

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I had the chance to meet my first forum member in person last night, Labguy stopped by to checkout the pigeons good times. He was telling me about his retriever club, said it was fun and helpful. What can you tell me about MNNavhda, Brittany clubs, things like this? I have a brittany 6 months old. ...

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Joe, Doc laid the bait right there for ya...you sniffed it like dog, and then hiked your leg on it.....proud of ya man.

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Neil...please check your pm...I have a question for you.

Thanks

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Non-Ret placements: Placements: 1st – Brillows Big Wild West (Wiley), GWP Owner – Todd Tuls and Rhonda Haukoos, Handler – Jim West 2nd – Snowy River’s Cuttin The Edge (Edger) GSP, Owner-Chase Verdoon & John Jones, Handler – Chase Verdoon 3rd – FC/AFC Palm Glades Lee’s Madeline (Maddie) GSP, Owner - ...

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slistoe wrote:These are the All Age dogs of the woods. No different than any other CH - need to qualify at that criteria.

The point being that a Open Derby win, which could be judged as a Shooting Dog standard (or an AA standard)....does. I don't care, I do find it curious though.

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Elections. Have. Consequences.

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Brooks, maybe the mid March date has something to do with?

I still have over a foot of snow on the ground, with 5-8 on the way by Tuesday. There isn't much dog training going on here, nor much horseback riding.

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60 in the Ret..... 78 for the non.....30 for the derby

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I've heard Vicks Vaporub behind the nose leather...also for future ref. Chlorophyll tabs given to the female.

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The North Country Gordon Setter Club is pleased to announce that our Spring 2013 All-Breed Field Trial will be held at the Union County Ranch at Thayer, Iowa on April 20-21! Premium and information attached. Plan now to join us for a fun weekend in beautiful southern Iowa!

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Cajun Casey wrote:Probably no one wants to shell out that kind of money to be a loser.

The Setter Fund just paid 16K.

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There are half a dozen shorthairs that could do it. Honest? I don't think that's the case though...look at the numbers of ES TRYING to qualify to get to Ames, much less win. On a good year what, maybe 10-12 English are in attendance? Then again, maybe the GSP's aren't there because they're not tryi...

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I mean, the trial folks are obsessed with range, speed, style. That seems to be about it. You hear stories all the time about such and such a dog who was the hardest thing to train, was the meanest cuss around, was dumb as a box of rocks, but boy you should have seem him fly and, whoa, did he go up...

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There are half a dozen shorthairs that could do it. Honest? I don't think that's the case though...look at the numbers of ES TRYING to qualify to get to Ames, much less win. On a good year what, maybe 10-12 English are in attendance? Then again, maybe the GSP's aren't there because they're not tryi...

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Kwik,

Seeing you are in Irish, can you shed some light on bloat/torsion issues and how the thinking of chest type has an impact on it?

Thanks..Dan

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Steve, that's actually not what I said (was FourSeason), but is absolutely something I agree with. Besides that, I wasn't asking about "pretty," I was asking about functional form. Of couese you were. Wyndancer brought up "pretty", implying that if a dog could hunt well short-term or win in a FT, i...

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Neil wrote:Just heard that they are not retiring Bo to stud, he is entered in the Southeastern Ch. And is in contention for DoY. Go Bo!

Good for them. The only thing harder than winning it once...is winning it twice.

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Stoneface wrote:I'm in the air over a true 90' angle from scapular spine to humorous is optimal, but there is no doubt that the stilt-looking front ends most Pointers are dressed with today are no where near as functional as something with more hinge to them.

Pretty is as pretty does.

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Had some Surly Pentagram yesterday and this a crazy beer. If you like sours this is a must try. Was at Princeton's Liquor in Maple Grove...while I was deciding on what to buy, and bs'ing with employee stocking the shelves...the Pentagram (at $24 for 750ml's) was flying off the shelf. I couldn't spe...

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