Gun Dog Forum

RyanDoolittle

Tammy, What do you consider a full season of hunting? I have said it before and I will say it again successful trial dogs spend 3 months on the prairie every summer and fall chasing wild grouse an huns. They see more wild birds than most peoples "hunting" dogs do. The average hunter is lucky to see...

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Tammy I will also add I have both here. My forst Irish was a show line crossed into some oooold hunting stock, my current Irish is of trial stock. Same with my 8 year old GSP, he is mostly all show stock (malhaven) with a single DK far back on the bottom Navigator side. My young dog is trial bred (W...

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Tammy, What do you consider a full season of hunting? I have said it before and I will say it again successful trial dogs spend 3 months on the prairie every summer and fall chasing wild grouse an huns. They see more wild birds than most peoples "hunting" dogs do. The average hunter is lucky to see ...

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I haven't been to a field trail or any hunt tests, but I find this event interesting. Would someone educate me on what is meant by a dog being picked up after X amount of time...is it because the dog quit hunting or made a error. To win a dog is going to need to do 2 things #1 most important is fin...

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Stallion was apparently the favorite for the Calcutta.

I look forward to reading the nightly updates.

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Kinda like what good is covering a small piece of ground thoroughly if there are no birds on it... Exactly. More to the point: sadly, even a meat dog can't find quail in the Midwest/South any more. well the hunter with a slow working dog would at least know for sure their wasn't any birds in the ar...

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I guess the red herring in this whole argument to me is , what good does it do to cover a lot of ground quick if your missing birds? I think what it comes down to is the country and birds you hunt. That being said a smart dog will start to dig if they dont find birds on the edges. It happens in tri...

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What do you mean "if", Gary Lester does that with alot of his dogs including his National Champion Lesters Snow Watch. Oh by the way he also foot hunts this dog. I'm willing to bet this is the exception. Sure there are the trial dogs that hunt and hunting dogs that trial.. Would you call a dog that...

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Millers on line. Millers Silver Bullet. Google it. Might add a little more white than desired but it would put some style into the puppies. Have no idea why you would even consider a shorthaired white dog would do more for style than what the breed already possess. Pointers are great dogs but are n...

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If you took a dog that was entered in the National Championship, and bird hunted him from foot in West Tennessee for a few weeks, he would begin to dig in to the woods and thickets and find every bird available also. I know nothing about the two 'meat dogs' that they used for their experiment, but ...

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DonF wrote:Miller dogs are Pointer's. What do they have to do with red or Irish Setter's?

Right over your head eh don?

#1 he was being sarcastic
#2 i believe he was suggesting with the Miller blood put it it may produce some dogs he would consider worth owning.

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I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a red setter puppy that had some 'Miller' influence in his pedigree. I'm not familiar with "Miller" can you expand on the breeding and kennel? Thanks Craig O. Millers on line. Millers Silver Bullet. Google it. Might add a little more white than desired but it wou...

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You guys know the winners are usually the dogs that spend the summer on the prairies chasing...... wild Prairie chickens.

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Rooting for Rapidan or his brother Adubon Americus!

There is also 4 littermates in the National this year.

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It is my understanding the irish were crossed with american field english setters to make reds.

Your right there are a few irish about but not many.

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Thanks.
He has definatly got it in him.
Wyatt is a double bred Fritz grandson. His dad is DC VC Gambles Sam Man and his mom is a littermate to FC Sixth Sens Wyatt.

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2014 was the first year I competed in field trials and it was the 1st year my young dog was old enough to give it a try. We started in May with a few Horseback stakes, tried walking stakes, and finished the season in September with more Horseback stakes. We had a great deal of success placing in all...

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Noone said anything about needing a formula 1 AA bred pointing dog to hunt the country. The most common thing you will find is an increase in range because of the cover in most of North America being more open. Yes there are areas like the North East that are heavier but even these dogs have bog ran...

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So now you want to compare AA HB dogs to hunting dogs to cover dogs? I dont know where you trial but I suggest looking into American Field and AFTCA events if you dont like throw down single course trials. However, like dogs, different strokes for different folks. I really wish I was on my computer ...

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Buy used if you can. Why large though? My 65lb GSPs use the Vari-Kennel Intermediate with plenty of room to spare.

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Take a look at the first DK brought into North America and compare it to the DKs/ GSP in North America then in Germany. HOLY CROW THE GERMAN DKs DONT EVEN LOOK THE SAME!! Breed evolve as the hunting, game and terrain changes. I would expect a dog to perfom different in Washington than it would in Sa...

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DD i am curious as to how range or Ameicanizing the european breeds hurts performance? I dont understand how increasing range, stamina, and style is hurting performance.

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I dont, thats the point. The ground here are much different than Germany or in the case of the Irish Setter Ireland or the Gordon Setter Scotland. We are all hunting North America so we need a dog that can cover the ground here.

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I love it when people think a dog from Germany should hunt like a german dog here in North america. Dont really know what use that would be.

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Time to purchase a couple new crates. I have a leggy 65lb Shorthair and a solid 65lb Lab, was wondering if the Ruff Tough Intermediate would be ok. They overnight and spend quite a bit of time in them when we make cross country hunting trips every year. I currently fit the large Vari's in my curren...

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Yes he is a Tate x Rumore breeding from the first litter susan did.

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There is a difference between being able to hunt and hunting. I now have a field bred dog out of Chukarhill Burn Notice and he even though he puts birds in the bag he is much more exciting to watch. Chukarhill Burn Notice is a real nice dog! Craig O. His son is too ;) Too bad he has bad hips otherw...

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There is a difference between being able to hunt and hunting. I have had both, an old school bench bred Irish that was a great pheasant dog. Boring as heck to watch but would put birds in the bag. I now have a field bred dog out of Chukarhill Burn Notice and he even though he puts birds in the bag h...

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Tagging along.

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I prefer the Dogs Unlimited bird bags. They seem a little more durable and I like havijg a snap to attach it to a saddle or doubling it over to hold smaller birds like quail in.

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You are correct, just as much blame in the field as the show. However to look at it another way and what I was trying to say earlier is how many of these Dual Dogs are Gun Dogs and how many are Shooting or AA dogs. How many are AKC AA vs AF AA Duals. What I am trying to say is the more the dog is be...

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It is a loss that so many breeds have abandon the Dual Dog, the blame goes to both the Field and show people. At the first field trial in America there was a show. Mary Montose won the National Championship and took best of of Oposite Sex at Westminster a week a part. The coon dog guys have a bench...

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The best of the dual dogs are to be commended, no doubt. I still don't like the word "best"...that's a personal choice. Too bad some of these versatiles have turned their backs on the rest of the work. I'm not sure the retrieving, waterwork, tracking, etc have profited through the quest for making ...

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fuzznut wrote:they are out there, if you are interested,, you will find out who they are.
Most of us who own those dogs just are not into the bragging.... we know who they are, what they did, and what they produced.

Im going to go out on a limb and say you dont know.

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I think Brittany have the most of any breed.

When was the last time any dog has done both. Places in a National specialty and won a National Championship.

I am going to say its been a while, the happy medium gets stretched thinner and thinner.

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Adam, that is a DC to be proud of! Duals that can do both, and compete at the highest levels of both are to be highly commended. They are far and few between, whether by owners wants and needs, or the limitations of the dog....but those that can and do... Bravo! How many have done that? Placed BOB ...

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I whistle trained for change direction come about. 1 tweet. Recall multiple tweets. I then overlayed the tone on the alpha. The alpha tone works great she can always hear it and it's quiet out in the field. I let her hunt the way she wants as long as she is in sight. When she goes over the ridge I ...

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My experience is a silent hunter encourages dogs to range further out. Someone that is always giving the dog commands keeps them close. The dog is looking at you for directions That varies with the dog. Some dogs run big and keep an eye on you from a distance. Some run big but feel the need to chec...

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If you werent too busy trolling for a fight you would see I say that in my last post in this thread. The best argument you could make for Fritz is his progeny has run and placed on the National Level. I do not believe a Sam or Wyatt pup has done that yet. However their win records are better than F...

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If you werent too busy trolling for a fight you would see I say that in my last post in this thread. The best argument you could make for Fritz is his progeny has run and placed on the National Level. I do not believe a Sam or Wyatt pup has done that yet. However their win records are better than F...

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If you werent too busy trolling for a fight you would see I say that in my last post in this thread. The best argument you could make for Fritz is his progeny has run and placed on the National Level. I do not believe a Sam or Wyatt pup has done that yet. However their win records are better than Fr...

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Wyatts 2012 win record stands for itself. Sams NAHDA titles as well as placements on the national level speak for themselves. Fritz has been breeding alot longer so hos progeny has more titles. Although i wouldnt be surprised to see pups out of Sam getting the titles in the upcoming years and surpas...

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This is one of those WWW threads where it would be helpful to know the experience/"resume" of the respondents to lend some insight to their statements. At least would be good to know that the respondents have personal saddle time launching their hounds from point A to point B in the stakes describe...

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I will vote for DC Bandee as my best performing as well as producing. And I would vote for Waknut Hill's Fritz in the GSP's. Fritz is good and he has been breeding alot longer but his son DC VC Gambles Sam Man Mh has surpassed him. His other son Snips Sixth sens Wyatt, although never got his final ...

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Neil wrote:
I do not recommend learning by on the job training without expert guidance, any more than I would for a medical doctor to learn that way.

Well that takes all the fun out of it. So much for my medical degree.

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One of ny dogs. Out of FC Chukarhill's Burn notice

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My conditioning routine starts here soon. The dogs will have had2 months off and need to get into shape for trials. My dog was quiet young so I free ran him for 45-90 min 3x a week (thursday & tuesday & Saturday or Sunday) in the summer when it was hot I kept the same time of exercise but ran on edg...

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Thanks Ray, thats more along the lines of an answer I am looking for. With 30 minutes you have half the time to show your dog. What is the difference in the ground race of the 2? Is the 30 minute dog a faster animals because it only has to run half as long? I guess what I am looking for is more alon...

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Yes I should have mentioned "breeding season" , without lights its April-September around here, and yes I have room for two nests in my nest boxes. Ferrals don't need much to nest, the homers I have seem to need nicer nesting areas. The nicer the nest box the less chicks you will loose accidents. D...

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Curious about the differences between a 30 minute trial dog and a 1 hour trial dog.

Let's try and keep it "even" and say both are shooting dogs and both are Horseback trial dogs. Specifically looking at the Shorthaired Pointers but I am sure this could relate to setters and pointers as well.

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