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Thats interesting Sharon. For some reason, cat poop is like some kind of treat for my dogs. It's sick...

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You know what stops a digging dog? A crate when left unattended.

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if you are planning to use your dog for deer too, get something that can track blood. if you are not interested in pudelpointers I'd suggest looking at DDs.

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I would have suggested a releaser and not a launcher.

http://higginsgundogs.com/store/higgins ... -releaser/

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You live in Michigan, it can be cold. Get a pudelpointer. They are outstnding pointers and great duck dogs. They are also awesome in the house. I have a 7 month old son and she is really gentle with him. I will say, they mature late so she is just now acting like a dog. My dog is 2, she is steady to...

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When my pup got it she was 4 months old. She had both of her shots for Parvo but apparently there are strains now that can get around it (there's also an argument that it takes until the pup is 6 months old for the vaccines to truely take effect - that's why that whole "6 month" window thing exists)...

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Socialize very carefully (or, in my opinion, not at all) at this age. My pup got parvo at 5 months - d4mn near killed her. $10,000.00 vet bill. No joke. Its not worth it. Play with the dog, love on the dog, teach it where to poop and where to eat. I'd say that's enough for the first 6 months... Then...

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Neil, I think that question was for me - but not sure. To be clear, I only used launchers for stop to flush training. That's it. After that it was all birds that were on the ground (perhaps feet tied - but still on the ground). My dog was steady to wing, shot and kill (broke not perfect) in about 8 ...

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Personally, I think it's a crap shoot. If you pop a bird every time the dog moves, it will inhibit the dog's ability to manage a moving bird (which they are most of the time) - just like whoa training. My dog will lock up, say, 3 or fout times on a bird as it is moving until she actually gets the bi...

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hey dude, Dogs are all about association. Your dog may know to get a bumper thrown from you (And bring it back to you just fine), but not a bumper thrown by someone else and then bring it to you. Let alone a bumper thrown from say, behind a few trees, where she cant see it thrown by anyone, and brin...

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Agreed. Get a new buddy. Hunting is a lot like golf, you can tell a lot about someone after just one round of golf and lord konws you're not there to be all pissed off. It's part of hunting wild pheasants. They do not react like pet-n-shoot birds. Remember, they are hunted often by yotes. So a dog r...

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gonehuntin's got it.

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Opinions are like... well we all know the rest. But here's mine. Your instinct is correct. You need to collar break your dog first. If you do it properly the nick will be a message to the dog to stop or come or whatever the command was. Not just deer = pain (if you take this route you'll have to ass...

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During hunting season I cant keep weight on my pudelpointer and she goes from 3.5 cups per day (not hunting) to 6.5 cups per day (when hunting). Still, even though the wire coat, her ribs and but bones are very obvious.

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couldnt agree more with gonehuntin. it may just be you. no offense, but it's why I'm glad I chose the trainer I did - he teaches the handler really more than he teaches the dog. good luck though, hopefully you'll figure it out.

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Hey dude, A buddy of mine runs a GSP for ducks. She is an awesome dog. Never breaks, retrieves to hand, blind retrieves... the whole bit. Great dog - just has to be in a jacket all the time (its like running a vizla over ducks...same difference). It is a versatile dog after all. Regarding the collar...

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I think there are great uses for having the trailing dog retrieve some birds. Frist, it reminds the pointing dog that it does not get all retrieves. Why is that important? Because that dog will cheat when the bird is shot or hits the ground if it konws that everytime, it gets the retrieve. I allow t...

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I dont look at it from a standpoint of trials. Honestly, i dont give two cents about trials. It's hunting. i can't whoa from 200 yards. I'd sound like foghorn leghorn out there "WHOA I SAY, WHOA!" It would take away from the whole experience. I think the only word I use is fetch (other than good gir...

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I agree with birddog. No need for verbak commands. The dog should learn without commands - association of the flying bird is enough. I also think the backing dog deserves a retrieve from time to time too. It serves two purposes (1) it allows them to get what they are out there for...a bird in thier ...

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+1 with Cajun. Once you have the dog stop-to-flush broke, it's simple association. Pointing dog = bird = stop.

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Bang must equal bird. You can do it other ways, I guess, but you are playing with fire. This is one of the only things you can't fix. In my opinion, you should be nervous about doing this part of the training correctly. Here's what I've done, it's simple and works great. Get a pigeon, pull the fligh...

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Make sure they are not just training the dog - Part of thier job is to train YOU to train your dog. Too many trainers train the dog and the owner gets out on a hunt and the owner is clueless how to deal with the dog. Dont be the poor guy or gal screaming whoa and tapping your dog all the time. Also,...

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I dont know dude, opinions are like.... I think we all konw the rest. So here's mine! Your dog will learn the difference between tug of war, a squeeky toy and a duck/pheasant etc. When you are in the back yard with dog toys are you wearing "those" boots? "That" hat? Carrying a gun? Do you have "that...

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Right, I just use a full choke. That seems to pattern well at about 40 yards - but again, that's with actual turkey loads. I mean, I'm really tempted to just use 2 3/4 6s but I dont want to go to light. Lord knows those birds are tough. I jsut dont have the dough to spend on high quality turkey loads.

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Hey guys, Tomorrow is our turkey and pheasant opener here in northern cal. So I'll be going to turkeys at first light and then pheasants at 8am. Question: I only have the following rounds to use for turkeys. 2 3/4in 6s (1 3/8 oz); 3in 2s (steel); 3 1/2 in 2s (steel) and 3 1/2 in Black Cloud BBs (my ...

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I have an opportunity to hunt some private property on Saturday for pheasants. I konw the season opens up here around 8am. I also have an opportunity to hunt ducks and turkeys. I'm trying to prioritize since I'll likely hunt all three. What do pheasants do later in the day? Are they still in the pla...

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Thanks for the input. I dont have boots but i can run her in her camo duck vest. She's a pudelpointer so perhaps her wirehair will protect her? I dont know. As far as posters go, the field will be cut rice. That means there will be substantial clumps of rice standing in the field. I dont know if tha...

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I know this is a double post but there's so much more activity in this forum. Thanks in advance. Hi All, This weeked is our pheasant opener here in northern california. A friend of mine owns a rice farm not too far away. He said he has seen more pheasants this year than he's seen in a long time. He'...

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or you could just not teach whoa. but that's my personal bias.

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Get a vest. The Avery Boater's Vest is really a handy little sucker. It's also easy to modify (which you will need to do with your dog's body). PM me if you cant find instructions on it. BUT get a vest!

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Hey all, I'm headed mountain quail hunting this weekend. I can find them all over when it's not the season but for some reason, come the season I cant find too many. Also, when I do find them, they tend to flush WAY early, like 30 yards. Wild flushing critters - is that normal? Any words of wisdom o...

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+1 on the above. Bang = bird. That's what the dog must learn. Not Bang = something I shouldnt be affriad of. I think I'd flinch too if I was just screwing around in a field and a hand cannon happened to be fired off. just a thought ;) Totally move slowly. Make sure the association is there. If your ...

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well, I hope you figure that out bro. that doesnt sound good. i bet your dog has associated the gunshot with "i've done something wrong." she hunts hard up to the shot - she must think she's made an error. good luck with that dude.

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Hey dude, You will never be able to ween her off of the adrenaline rush. She is already pre-programed to find birds. It's what she does. She's a bird dog. (I dont mean that rudely.) The advise you are recieving about "dont let her catch anymore birds" is dead on. If you need a controled environment,...

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my 1.5 year old pup still chews... i hate it.

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For what it's worth, I'll chime in with my two cents. I recently (about a year ago) purchased my first gundog. My decision came down to a pudelpointer, a dd and a griff. The griff dropped my list because it is an AKC dog - the gwp never made my list for the same reason. As another poster said - I ch...

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Could not agree more with keep your mouth shut. My dog is now about 17 months as well and she never gets talked to in the field unless I say "good girl." Honestly, I mean ever - no "whoa" no nothing. She is now steady to wing, shot and kill and I never have to say a word. I think not talking when th...

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Bruce "bleep" thinks you need more cow bell.

The last time I checked, we dont have many songs that feature the cow bell.

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With all due respect - dont go to the trial. It's not that important. Go for a walk instead. It's not worth putting more pressure on your hunting buddy.

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Just a thought here, but when the dog realizes the bird is moving and follows in order to "pin it down," the dog is managing the bird. Which is was you want in a hunter right? ---- Stop the bird so I can shoot it. Then you (The dog) get to go get it. ---- That's the game. If you whoa the dog, you ar...

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I agree. Get on wild birds. The birds will train the dogs. Your dog gets up on those pen raised birds because it can. If you think about it, getting your dog to point on "first scent" takes away what the dog does best and what you have the dog for - managing the bird. It must learn to manage and wil...

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When are you shooting the capgun? It MUST be while the dog is chasing and it hot pursuit. (I say must because your dog needs some help.) Everyone is going to have a different suggestion. At the end of the day, you "must" figure out a way to make the "bang mean bird." The dog has to get to make the c...

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for what it's worth... forget the birds. take the dog on walks through the woods, parks etc. at this stage of the game it's all about exposure to everything you can. water, birds, dogs - whatever. whatever you do, dont put pressure on that pup. she will associate birds with pressure. that is an asso...

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One thing to consider is what you are teaching your dog. While you are teaching steadiness, you are teaching the dog to stay still. Retrieve training is exactly the opposite, now you are teaching the dog it can go. They are two different ideas to the dog alltogether. The risk you run, assuming your ...

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Hi all, I'm going to be in Jackson, CA with my pup doing some turkey scouting the weekend of March 6. I am curious as to whether or not that area has any pheasant clubs that mught be able to put out a coule of birds for me (pheasant, chukar, quail or whatever) so that I can work my dog a bit. Any th...

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I think you are underrating the value of video-seasickness...

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I know - the camera work was pretty bad until my buddy stopped walking

Sorry about that guys. I was just so happy about it I had to post it up.

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Hey all, Thanks for all the help with gun sensitivity. This is a vid of my pudelpointer Chelsea (at 5 months) on her last day of gun training - it is the first time she had a 12 gauge shot right over her. She has been worked up from starter pistol all the way to 12 gauge over the course of about 6 w...

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Hey All, I'm taking my pudelpointer out to a friend's field that has a bunch of wild pheasants on it. She is 5 1/2 months old and has been out on planted birds a few times and is doing very well - the trainer who has sold us birds and been out with her a couple of times said she is a "bad-@ss pup" :...

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The tri-tronics transmitter can have the reciever activate a "buzz sound." Is this like the vibrate associated with the Dogrta collars? My dog responds well to the vibrate.

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