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versatileguy

Hey guys, Don't let someone like that get under your skin. We all know that statements like that are posted for one purpose and that is to get an arguement started. I don't believe there is anyone in todays world that has opinions like he posted. But if there is, rather than argue just feel sorry f...

versatileguy

Well then if you can not (or are too lazy) to scope out and find wild bird areas to hunt with your dog/dogs......then maybe (more like obviously) you should not own the dog/dogs. Your types do a disservice to those who really hunt wild birds. Gamefarms are for pretenders and posers..............and ...

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What a bunch of sad sacks....you guys justify that you are "hunters" and yet you hunt "birds" that were released from a cage 20 minutes before you go out and blast them? How does that kind of thinking work? And you don't see how that gives hunting a "bad" name? You sound like the same types who carr...

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They are not awesome....they are made for those with no ambition to really be a hunter. It is like a guy who tells you he is trout fisherman and it comes to pass that he is fishing at the trout pond that is pay by the inch. It is no different than going to the local chicken farmers and shooting his ...

versatileguy

Montana all the way! He has more titles, makes fewer mistakes, and always knew the right plays to make. He knew how to read the field and make the right throws, Farve has(had) a tremendous arm but got burned more often than not. Farve made more plays than he got burned on, how soon they forget........

versatileguy

Passing the tests at all levels % wise it is the GWP.....just by a hair. In hunting preformance in the real world it is the GWP by a wide margin.

versatileguy

Two Bears wrote:Well since I am a VIKING FAN I want Brett to come and play here for the Vikings.

Problem with the vikings is no matter who is QBing them....the team will choke when it counts. It is in their history/makeup....

versatileguy

I'll take Montana at any stage in his career over the 2005-forward version of Favre. First and foremost, I want a QB that knows he wants to keep playing. How about at the peak of careers?....it is easy to kick a guy on the way down and out. In his prime Farve would be having Montana clean his locke...

versatileguy

In football-Farve

In hunting-GWP

versatileguy

Now I understand why you are looking to move up the versatile dog ladder and looking at drahthaars.

FF is a great thing. It must be done correctly and must be completed through the end. No short cuts.........or half do's......

versatileguy

The first rule of getting a hunting dog....is never,never, ever, ever, ever let the wife, girlfriend, significant other, etc.etc.etc..... who is not going to be hunting with or training the dog..........pick the breed or the pup.

versatileguy

Cody and the rest have the typical non versatile dog owner response. They feel some need to belittle a dog who can do it all, by degrading fur, or tracking.....all things that a decent hunting dog needs to do, in order to be a worthy hunting dog IMHO. Pretty soon you will read them trying to justify...

versatileguy

Right on JakeDD!!

These Brittany and other "wannabee versatile breeds" owners are just as "soft" and "sensitive" as their dogs...........can't hack the work that needs to be done afield in the fields, forest, and marsh......... or the reality of truthfulness. :roll:

versatileguy

Guess it depends on how you define a versatile dog. I would venture to guess there are a good number of versatile britts, setters and pointers out there, as well as GSP's and GWP' s that are not. I would bet like what Denmor alluded to, there are less GWP/Drahthaars that can't do the versatile dog ...

versatileguy

Don't monkey around....go right to the best. A dog that points them......

versatileguy

Quite honestly I have already had one of those brits years ago, not too bad in the uplands,....... but versatile, no way!!.... I then did some research and moved up.

I won't be going back down the versatile ladder anytime in my future.

versatileguy

This a not about wannabee versatile dogs..........lets not pollute it with the brittany coulda woulda stuff. :roll:

versatileguy

Drahthaar or GWP....same dog different registries.

Inspite of what you will be told.

versatileguy

I am not real sure what water work has to do with hunting.

Well I guess that pretty much speaks for who does and doesn't hunt around here.

versatileguy

Honestly, what is he contributing? I love this site and have learned alot, a ton, (now is that actually a metric ton, no but I think you get the picture) but does this guy own a dog. Has he helped anything other than raising others blood pressure? TAK has the record and the dogs that prove he knows...

versatileguy

Another wondeful example. I don't know anything,, I don't have or have dogs, never trained a dog/dogs....probably own cats....blah, blah, blah.....all because you don't like my opinion or experience.

versatileguy

Cover trials are actually the perfect venue to sell pups to unsuspecting buyers. The folks who run in these things try to market the pups out of these dogs as winners of "foot walking wild birds trials". I have had guys call me and ask about the things or the dogs in question. I explain that they ar...

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Hundreds or thousands of hours of hunting would be considered some form of practice, which versatileguy has shunned as well.

Now this quote has missed the "POINT" too......Hunting is not training for a test.

Most dogs will never get 100 hours in the field really hunting. :roll:

versatileguy

You don't have to give, and I don't win.......But dogs do not require "thousands of hours of training" to pass a NAVHDA test.. You are just wrong or don't know much about what is required in the test.

versatileguy

Nope....good dogs do not require "thousands of hours of practice" either. :roll: :roll: :roll:

versatileguy

NAVHDA dogs don't have "thousands of hours of training" in them. Only a really poor dog requires "thousand of hours" of training to pass a NAVHDA test. :roll:

versatileguy

This isn't about Janet or her discovery of blank gun trials. I could care less about Janet. This is about those who would say that pop gun trials are the"top of the dog game world" and try to misrepresent them as such....they are not. That opinion has been deemed attacking, rude, etc, etc....yet the...

versatileguy

So now all posts that do not agree with the status quo here will be deemed rude and disrespectful. :roll: Yet BS about how walking trials are the "top of the dog game world" is not allowed to be challenged or questioned:?

versatileguy

Touched a nerve larue? What is the matter? Don't you run dogs with supposed "style and class" ? What is the matter don't they retrieve? Are they bird munchers?"..............How's that? That is not an attack..... Those are a series of questions. Unanswered questions.....but not an attack. It is onl...

versatileguy

.and he did attack.

Please do show me the attack.

versatileguy

Exactly!!!

Then you have the minions getting offend by my opinion. Not unlike a bunch of tattle tails in the third grade. :roll: :roll:

versatileguy

Opinion yes !! That is what we are here for. Watch the tone of your posts. They were borderline

Borderline what? Border line you don't like my opinion? Who died and made you king?

Tone? So I am responsible for how YOU percieve the TONE of my post is? Get real!! :roll: :roll:

versatileguy

There is no need to knock ANY venue that someone wishes to pursue with their dogs. It is all great for people to train and run their dogs in SOMETHING.

I do not care what a person runs their dog in, but I am allowed to have an opinion on the format. :roll: :roll:

versatileguy

There are no "pot shots" in that post. Just an opinon of those "bogus" trials. :roll: :roll: :roll:

versatileguy

Touched a nerve larue? What is the matter? Don't you run dogs with supposed "style and class" ? What is the matter don't they retrieve? Are they bird munchers? Dogs that don't retrieve don't belong in the field. Following a dog with blank gun is in no way is an evaluation system to judge a dog's wor...

versatileguy

Those wild bird trials are bogus.....you walk around with a blank gun behind the dog. The only thing the dog has to do is point a bird to win. It is all subjective. There is nothing worth a hoot about a gun dog that is evaluated in those except if the dog points. There is no retrieveing, which every...

versatileguy

For starters.....Don't believe the training advice you get from clowns on the internet. If you do some digging, you will find most of them have never trained a dog to any level of competence. They are phony trainers. :roll: :roll:

versatileguy

So what if they ban canned hunts of exotic animals and whitetails? :roll: Anyone who does isn't really a hunter or hunting anyway. It is like shooting cows that come to the bell when it is feeding time. It gives hunting and real sportsman a bad name. You want to shoot an exotic, go to Africa. If you...

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