Gun Dog Forum

myerstenn

Its all go and come no whoa unless you want your hunting partner to stop your dog everytime he blows a whistle!!!

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Easy rich, your skill level is starting show!!!!

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Let me follow up on my "don't waste your time comment" If you want a horse to just play with and get your brains beat out then you ought to consider a SB. If your serious about working dogs off of horses ,don't look at or consider anything but a walker, foxtrotter or maybe a paso. the later is gener...

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Dont waist your time

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You never here about the good breedings because the puppies are all spoken for before they arrive. what have your females produced and what kind of win record do they have? Are they horseback dogs etc. Its great to start with a good pedigree, but youll get more if they have other credentials. JMO

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Hey pepper, since your going to be there this year why dont you volunter to be the scribe, since your going up to summer camp in north dakota its the least you could do for oswald and davis?????????????

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A lot of it has to do with the pattern of the a dog. A dog that yo yos in and out can probably still win in an akc stake. IN the AF version the opposite is more exceptable. A dog that searches to and moves to the front and stays to the front is more likely to win. Most of the contential AF trials ar...

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John, I seriously debated with myself on whether my comment was within the limits. I couldnt resist the urge!! ned

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Hotpepper is right on the move to mark. He is not saying it is wrong for a dog to move to mark. The rule book says that a move to mark is ok. What he is trying to tell you is that judging on this issue is highly variable, so if you want to win, it is better that a dog not move at all. You train the...

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When a bird does not fly the handlers needs to make an honest attempt to flush the bird . Most judges will give you a verbal que that your attempt was satisfactory.The dog should remaim staunch (high and tight thru the process), you may collar the dog immeadiately after the shot and move the dog a r...

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These folks are asking you experienced fellas is it worth the puppy/derby of the year run. or should they take their points and move on to longer term development ie , working on the breaking process and developing the dog for broke stakes.I believe i already know your response, but tell them again.

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Its different between AKC and AF, What do you perceive the difference is, other than the dog may be up to four months older ? Nobody remembers that a dog was #1 Derby Dog of the Year, or cares. Just owners who don't know any better, loving the feeling of racking up Derby points. Better to get em ou...

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Doug your such a liberal, I will bet you wouldnt take that position if you ran on liberated birds all the time.

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ezzy, with all do respect, I dont believe my comments were about an agressive dog. It was my preferrence to prefer a strong bird finder over a dog that has strong backing instincts. I believe you can teach any dog to back but if they cant find birds their not worth keeping. I also believe that that ...

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myerstenn wrote:You assume the high flying dog is a bird finder; and not just running to run. Doesn't always work out that way

Dave, I believe I said, a high flying bird finder. I understand the difference. You cant win many placements on just a back.

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IMO ITS hard to teach a dog to find birds,but you can teach them to back. Ill take the high flying charging bird finder any day.I have seen some dogs that ran around looking for a dog just to back!!!!

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continuious works better and yes on the second question (with caution) , but make sure you know how he reacts to the juice first before you try to get on him. he needs to learn what is expected before you start crawling on him .I am normally a little nervous about using it while i am on the horse.

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I wouldnt do anything but road the dog during the week to keep him in condition. Do your bird work as you have in the past.He will be more energized when he hits the ground at the trial. horse work would help solve the problem longer term. Scrap the the collar process!!!

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With the cost of shipping dogs around the country the idea of frozen or chilled semen is going to be even more popular.. As for breeding to deceased champions , i dont see many people lining up to breed to those dogs who have a less than formidable production record. As for puppy costs its all a mat...

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You still should check with the trial chairman. A club has the right to say yes or no. Yes the club does have the right to make the decision based on the fields trial period. The aftca has the right to not issue win certificates and maybe ban the club as a future member if they are used .WHats the ...

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It has been approved[dc30] by the american field on a temporary basis thru may of 09. It has not been approved by the AFTCA and will probably be debated at their june meeting. Iam not sure what the AKC has done?

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I dont believe this has anything to do with hunger .This dog is simpley trying to get away from a force fetch pressure situation Who ever tried to brake to ff never completed the job. The dog is simpley trying to get away from pressure. She needs to go back to the table and continue the process unti...

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If you have a crane handy or someone to help you lift it buy an MandW. If you want to feel like your riding a barrel buy a haggis. if you want pinched in the front of the seat buy a christie. The one tucker i had was made cockeyed. Tarpin Hill/Hesket saddles are light weight and durable. They may no...

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believe the point is that with about 140 dogs qualifying only 39 are running. Those dogs selected, ran and qualified in Purina Points Qualifying trials and they are no shows... That isn't a bit strange to you? Do you know how many dogs ran last year? To answer your question, no ,I dont think it is ...

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Just an FYI...Erin's Stoney River http://www.erinkennels.com/pedigrees/61.pdf just took RU at the National Derby Championship. He also took RU at the Georgia Derby Championship...http://fieldtrialpointers.net/lbn.html seems to be on a roll. He is NOT even 13 months old EVER HEAR OF A RED SHIRT!!!!!...

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So whats the point??? Pros are fickle just like anybody else. They pick and chose trials to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jason Williams didnt qualify any thing, Hester had belfield silver , Luke I had several qualified.

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You gotta qualify to get there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ivomec -plus- is designed to kill some kind of flukes, my vet says dont use the PLUS on your dogs, use the regular bovine ivomec. I dont believe any of it will be labled for dog use , why give up 7.00 monthly pill for a thirty five dollar bottle that lasts for a couple of years. If you have a kennel...

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with safeguard horse paste ,dose 100 lbs for every 10lbs of dog weight ie. 50lb dog gets 500 on the horse paste tube. never had a problem with it and have been doing it for years

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Try some releasers, pop it when the dog first winds the bird ,probably 10 to 15 yards out, let the dog chase on several outings. then kill some birds for him ,then put him on some johhny house birds he cant catch .Be carefull not to let him get to close to the releasers because the noise associated ...

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I am not a big advocate of putting or forcing dosgs on birds at a young age. They need to have fun in the field ,chase birds etc. If you can occassionally get him on some johhy house birds that he cant ketch you would probably be better of.At six months I would only be working on the word her, getti...

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I prefer to use a rope through a rubber hose and a light as i can find junk car axle as a stake. I previously used used metal cables but in recent years i have been a little concerned when a thunder and lighting storm rolls in . I would hate to get a horse killed because it was to well grounded.I us...

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I use the halter simply because its easier to controll the horse, if you walk your horse to the trailer to dress him and he only has a collar on and he is a little spirited, he will walk you. The shorthair people all use collars and the pointer people all use a halter figure that one out?????

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For some folks it is winning as an owner, you pay the bills, you very seldom see the dog , you hardly ever handle it,and you hope he is a winner and then you read about it in some publication. For others its the thrill of raising a puppy, training and breaking it yourself and beating the owners dog ...

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Singleshot, It can be confusing to the newbie,but i think any type of trial can be confusing. If you want to learn about the sport you have to spend a little time at. You gotta get the field or your breed newspaper and try to get updated on whats happening in your breed or discipline. If your lookin...

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I dont believe puppy placements are recorded by the field>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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There are various places around the country, most state universties that have a vet school store frozen semen. It is kept in some type of cryogenic sub freezing system

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IN REALITY A GOOD WIDE FRONT RUNNING DOG IS GENERALLY ON THE FRINGES OF THE COURSE AND USUALLY DOES NOT FIND THE BIRDS ALONG THE PATH > IN MANY CASE THESE DOGS GO BIRDLESS BECAUSE THE BIRD PLANTERS NEVER PLANT THE FRINGES. I AGREE WITH LARUE THIS IS NOT A PERFECT WORLD AND NOT ALL FIELDTRIALS END UP...

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hey bojack Its like this the mom and dad have a fifty percent impact the grandsires twentyfive percent and the greatgrandsires twelve point five percent impact on the genes------- which level does the big D fit on???????????I would still like to know what national champuion he produced. Your startin...

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your on course now

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Ezzy---tell me why you dont consider a dog that is high and tight on both ends as having a high level of intensity .he dosen t tick,he dosent flag?????What would be an indication to you he wasnt intense??????

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The difference in being competive and winning in trials is understanding what qualites the dog needs to posesses to win. And here I always thought is was the better dog that day in the judges opinion that won. Pointing style and intensity is the icing on the cake that makes it prettier than the oth...

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Rich ,I dont have a problem with silver strike"s record he was a quality producer. My question was11111111How many national champions or champions has Damaacus directly sired??????????????????????????????????

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What is used to judge a dogs pointing Style in a field trial. From a competitive standpoint you need both style and intensity, in a trial you are trying to find dogs that have superior qualities, ie desire to locate and find game , an animated and searchind race, biddable and loftiness on both ends...

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""Who were the champions and national champions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"" I don't know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You just made my point, I doubt If anybody elsdoes either....

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PRODUCED 101 WINNERS WITH 515 WINS AND NUMEROUS CHAMPIONS AND NATIONAL CHAMPIONS, Who were the champions and national champions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If the dog is pretty young you might want to consider taking some birds in a bag and walk your pup, when he comes by toss one or two out in front of him every other training session , that way he dosent get to catch anything and your building his interest. Let him chase as long as he wants.

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Elhew Damascus was owned by gary surrat in south central tennessee who bred some good dogs before he acquired Damascus. I would seriously doubt he ever placed in a horse back trial and i would bet that most of the placements of his get never did either . He was bred to a lot well bred dogs that surr...

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quote="Wyndancer"]Naw...clear as the big blue sky. He'll just not go to a horseback FT...capiche?[/quote] You obviously didnt read my post on the previous page. Its a great game and I love every minute of it!!!!!!!!!!

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