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LEGLIFTER

This was my point also. I didn't say the wings would do harm, only that they are a waste of time and money and BTW, they will not smell like a live game bird. Also, if you did want to find out if your dog will point, wings would do you no good. I doubt that there are many dogs that would scent poin...

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Thanks 578SLE.
I am only expecting the dog to find and flush and don't compete but I guess the point is still the same.

Thanks again.

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The only time I use wings is when I am working on the retrieve. I will use wings or a pelt tied around a bumper, just so the dog gets the feel of feathers when he is retrieving. In my case, it has nothing to do with the scent. I believe feathers and scents are a waste of money for the purpose they ...

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I ordered both quail and chukar wings from GDS (I really like these guys) and can't wait for the package to arrive. I drove down to the nearby park and stashed a couple bumpers in the landscaping along the edge of the park. It is very evident that they are catching on. The dogs now run to spots wher...

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My dogs have an over abundance of desire to retrieve. I wish I could transfer some to your pup. I have two litter mates that have a competitive streak amongst them that creates problems of its own but I think could this information used judiciously could be helpful. I recently put my dogs on live pi...

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zip-tie the wing to a dummy for retrieves. Thanks again. Does anybody want to take a stab at the species issue? Does it matter much? I just hid a straight dummy in the back and front yards each for each dog to find. This is the first time I have asked them to use their nose. They appeared to be onl...

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jcorcoran wrote:If you don't have access to wings, you can buy them from places like Gun Dog Supply or Lion Coutry Supply. I bought some months ago and just had one out today to hid it a few times for my young brittany. Even after months in a ziplock, she went crazy for it.

Excellent. Thanks.

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Thanks for the input. Its pretty hard for me to come by wings without hunting out of season which I won't do. Assuming I can find some pen raised, how long will the wing continue to carry scent? And the question remains, regardless of whether the scent is artificial or natural is it important that I...

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I was planning to use some scent on bumpers to practice around the home and park to get my labs to start working scent for flushing. I mostly hunt chuckar and some valley and gambles quail. I was looking to buy some scent on line and found duck pheasant and quail. No chuckar. I don't know much about...

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Thanks to you both. I took the dogs out yesterday and introduced them to pigeons to get started. They already love to retrieve so I threw a couple clip wings for each dog. This is the first time either had seen a bird in a training context. One was a little put off by the wings flapping in her face ...

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I have a 18 month old lab who I have not introduced to birds at all yet. We go on off leash walks frequently and she is very interested in all the creatures she encounters (I'm currently breaking her of rabbit chasing) so I believe she has a lot of hunt in her and she is also a great retriever of an...

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Thanks all. Poncho, my male, had surgery yesterday so I left him at home and took Lola solo on the hot collar. Two mild zaps made a big enough difference so that on our third encounter we walked within 10 feet of the rabbits (at which point they ran off) and she stuck right by my side and showed no ...

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Most evenings when I walk my dogs (2 - 1.5 y.o. black lab litter-mates) I walk them down to the park off leash at heel and then allow them free reign once we hit the park. They love to count coupe on each other but when there are rabbits around they have great fun chasing them. I haven't had time to...

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YES!!! Those are beautiful dogs. They look like they could be litter mates to mine. It really is sad whats happening to these show dogs. I don't think they look good and they don't look healthy to me. This thread isn't about that but thanks for the encouraging news. Congratulations on some fine look...

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I love it! Thanks for sharing. I see your from the UK. I hope this question doesn't sound stupid. I would presume that she is what we call an English lab, but she looks so athletic that she looks more like my American field labs. What English labs I see tend to be chunky. Maybe this is because they ...

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A little early but I don't get on-line much anymore.

Just wanted t o say thanks to all who help support this site with positive feed back.

Thanks and Merry Christmas.

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I have been doing some research myself and found these two articles helpful.

http://www.gundogsonline.com/ArticleSer ... D0B74D6C6A

http://www.gundogsupply.com/dog-trainin ... guide.html

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I totally agree with Ezzy. Over feeding, I believe, is the number one reason dogs get loose stools. I would also have to say that the vast majority of people over feed their dogs. We tend to feed with our eyes based on whats in the bowl and less on whats on the dogs ribs. For me a good idea is to st...

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I am considering the purchase of the Walker's Game Ear as a solution for hearing protection that will allow me to hear the others around me when upland hunting. I rarely have worn hearing protection in the field because I think hearing those around me is more important from a safety perspective. Doe...

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We've had a genetic test for less than a year, and you want case studies? C'mon! Dave Easy there trigger. All I meant by "case study" was a first hand experience. There have been two articles published in the Journal of the American Animal Hospital Association regarding EIC. You can get each of the...

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BigShooter wrote: I will ask them your question but right now they are out of town so I will have to wait to get an answer.

Your conclusions sound reasonable, but there's nothing like case studies.

Thanks.

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FYI: I used the search feature using the words "exercise induced collapse" and found several post. Thanks, I did the same and only found posts related to a post I made earlier in the year regarding the subject matter. In retrospect this may not be the best forum for me to ask this question as the p...

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Stephan, Have you had your dog tested for EIC? I think that would be the first step. The best folks to ask your question about severity are the UMINN vet folks who developed the test and have been studying the disease. They are the only folks I know of who will have the sort of academic documentati...

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EIC exercise induced collapse, not heat exhaustion or hypo-glycemia, but I appreciate the help.

http://www.cvm.umn.edu/vdl/ourservices/ ... /home.html

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I have a young black lab that showed classic signs of having an exercise induced collapse (EIC) episode. We stopped all excitement and exercise and put the dog under arrest for 30 minutes after which all appeared well. I have a faint memory of reading somewhere that each episode the dog has, increas...

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Shoveler = Hollywood Mallards

Chukar = Ghosts

Ibis = Bagel Biters or Iraqis
All other non-game birds are called $chitt birds.

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Just wanted to say thank you to all the contributors here. I have searched for and found many threads that answered questions I had and I've asked and received good answers to others. But perhaps what impresses me most of all is the relative professionalism and lack of trolls and swearing on this fo...

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crackerd wrote:Sounds like you're wanting a parlor trick that ought to start off and stay in the parlor or the swimming pool.
MG

Bingo. I have no shame.

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I have seen several dogs which would swim to the bottom of a pool to retrieve a sunken object. One of my black lab pups (Lola) is showing some great drive and she has taken to water quickly. I think it would be fun to teach her to retrieve submerged marks. Can anyone recommend a tried and proven met...

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I agree with Ezzy. I don't think the cool penetrates the coat especially on a long coated dog, however it would add weight.

This is coming from a Ruff wear retailer - Don't tell them.

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A little like one new baby vs. twins, but .... "where there's a will ....there's a way" and as we can plainly see you are a man who will have his way! If your referring to my having my way by getting two puppies, then heck no! :roll: My wife got her way. :oops: The smart money says just get one. Ju...

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Back in Feb. I inquired about how to handle two puppies from the same litter. I received much woe and advice mostly against it from people here and elsewhere. I thought I would post an update for any body who follows with the same question. Plus it gives me a chance to post a pick :mrgreen: I brough...

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How 'bout just calling her Obama. He is our greatest Hope right??? :roll:

Seriously though, I like: Hope; She's a good one.

This to me implies that you love her regardless, which is likely true.

Congratulations to both you and Hope.

Steve

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Leglifter, why don't you just have your dogs tested so you know if they are affected or not. I will, most definitely. But I am not yet prepared to give up hopes that my dog will be no more than a couch potato if he or she is tested to be E/E "affected". A preponderance of the evidence indicates to ...

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Well I registered with the other site so that I could search for EIC episodes described. I had a hard time finding any. Nice sight though. But I took time to read every word in this document. http://www.vdl.umn.edu/vdl/ourservices/canineneuromuscular/taylor2008/home.html Along with what 1visla wrote...

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Thanks for the feedback.

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Thanks again.

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I am concerned that my labs may be affected, both parents were carriers, this was unknown at the time of breading. The dogs will be fixed regardless of their being affected or not.

Is there a recommended first aid treatment for dogs which have an episode?

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Not the answer I was hoping for but a very articulate and credible one.

Thanks for the feedback and the link,

However, as I write this I wonder... were the dogs you described known to have the genetic defect or could the attacks you observed have been related to another condition?

Thanks again.

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I just finished reading the thread "To Separate or not to Separate". http://www.gundogforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=89&t=16569 Given : I just brought home two siblings at 10 weeks and separated them after the first full day. They do get some play time together several times a day and eat together ...

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I recently became aware of this condition, Exercise Induced Collapse. For those unfamiliar with it there is a worthwhile link below. For those who are, does anybody have personal experience with it? It is a very new discovery it appears. The conclusion I have come to is that, breading aside, this in...

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Also I am willing to try any good recipes you have. Thanks! Try this recipe. It is for Goose/ duck pot pie but just make the following changes. Substitute Venison for foul Substitute Beef broth for chicken broth. Th recipe kicks buttocks and is very versatile. Outstanding recipe my sister came up w...

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I am probably not going to be of any help here but if my dogs aren't welcome I don't go. Plain and simple. Unless it is just a few hours. We have 4 dogs offten 5 with a foster in the mix and they go everywhere with us on the weekends. No on gets left behind. Hotel stays and all. If you don't think ...

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Leglifter--why not just buy one? http://sitekreator.com/zzfarms Good question. I really only wanted one but my wife wants two and her sisters dogs just had a litter of nine from: Sire: Candlewood Rita’s Ranger, [FC AFC Candlewood’s Rita Reynolds x FC AFC Candlewood’s Autumn Run Vince], Dam: Patton’...

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Thanks. That confirms what I read earlier. I'm just very reticent to believe what I read on the internet without backing it up with multiple sources. BTW these will be primarily house dogs though they come from some very nice lines. I do hope to hunt with them but its more about the companionship fo...

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I will be bringing home two new puppies (one male, one female black labs) from the same litter some time after 49 days old. I read on some random website that it was not a good idea to bring home two puppies together because they are less likely to bond with you and that this can create some trainin...

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I use it for my senior dog 14 y.o. and it makes a big difference. I don't see any reason why you would use it for a puppy even if it is safe. I believe it would be unnecessary and therefore inappropriate to supplement. Let me know if you find a different answer, esp. if it comes from an independent ...

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Nice dogs and beautiful habitat. Did you kick up any pigs?

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big steve46 wrote:Take a tip from John Wayne. Just name it, DOG!

Or a hint from Jonny Cash. It could be a boy named Sue.

"How do you do. My name is sue"

I knew you'd have to get tough or die
And it's the name that helped to make you strong."

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We named our first male Black Lab Kash ' cause I'm an accountant and realized that "Cash is king". I'm also fond of Jonny Cash and Kash is the dog in black so that seeled it. The wife just couldn't be happy with that so she changed the "C" to a "K". Not worth fighting over. Last of all we named him ...

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