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What about a deutsch langhaar from what i have been reading they are a good all around dog. just some thoughts from owners of this breed or people with experience would be sweet. For a first time dog trainer it might be best to stick with the more standard breeds and stay away from the more exotic ...

Please, do keep backpedaling. These excuses are very transparent. :roll: Instead of admitting you lied, you blame the breeder family who makes up less than 1% of DL-GNA membership, for buying into it and selling you a pup in the first place? And you blame your "website manager" for spelling errors? ...

You are throwing out a lot of accusations. Which seems to be common practice for you after a search of your history. I Don't know what story you've got but i am looking at a person who's pissed that I've got the same langharrs that you may have at a third of the asking price of the other breeders. ...

Independent or not, there are ethical breeders and unethical breeders. This thread began because a buyer was taken advantage of by an unethical breeder, which is unfortunate. Sometimes buyers who are breeders are unethical too. Lying to get a pup is unethical. Not x-raying both the breeding female a...

Doing "fine" sounds like real progress. What is the breeding coefficients on your GLPs by the way? What are the hip x-ray results?

You and a few others on this thread assume that the breeder in question belongs to a breed club, regional club or parent breed club. He does not. I received a PM so I know who he is. This breeder is what some may refer to as "independent" like many breeders out there. For the most part, a reputable ...

No offense taken. Earlier I thought you had me confused with an LM owner, but I think that's cleared up. :D I gave Cortney a heads up since she was busy so she could add her dollars worth. The more people promoting the DL the better as far as I'm concerned. :D To date, I have only sold started and f...

Bruce's dog Oskar is a nice dog. Oskar is a 1/2 brother (same father) to Kaylee shown on Cora's post and website.
Enjoy your visit. I'm sure it will be well worth your time.

You might try Maple Run Kennels. This is a repeat breeding of JGHV / VPP German standard tested pups.
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Ha! I never said my execution of the heel command was excellent. Or that I could even catch them that for that matter. Oh, wait that's what the command "come" if for?

I am not offended at all. DLs are the fourth most tested versatile hunting dogs behind the DD, DK, and KM in that order. GMs, PPs, Vizlas, Weims .....(in no particular order) are tested in fewer numbers. The DL is similar to the DD in that although extremely versatile it originated as a forester's d...

Perhaps some time you will have an opportunity to see some DLs work. It seems that most of what draws you to the SM you would appreciate about the DL as well. They are quite different than LMs. I am familiar with LMs but have never owned one. If I were to venture down the black and white path I woul...

Why do you prefer the smaller size? There is still a perpetuating misconception that sharpness on game and aggressiveness are the same thing. They are not. This has been addressed in another thread. DLs are not Weims (and I have no opinion or substantial knowledge of them). Nor are they German Shepa...

A well bred versatile regardless of breed is not agressive any more than it is gun shy, gun sensitive or shy around people. Occasionally things crop up, whether it be hip dysplasia, or temperment issues or whatever. DLs are not agressive. This is perpetuated fallacy similar to those who say that DDs...

The GM in Germany (not the LM) were split from the DL over a hundred years ago and it took some time thereafter to establish the GM as a separate breed. So yes, they are now different breeds and both the GM and LM are bred to different standards. The GM gene poole is even smaller than the DL and the...

Matt – To expound and clarify on some of the statements provided. 1) There are German Longhairs and Deutsch Langhaars. Although DLs are sometimes referred to GLPs they are not bred to the same strict breeding standards. Also, in Germany you will find KM’s not SMs. The distinguishing characteristics ...

I would personally like to welcome Cora's Shadow back into Deutsch Langhaar Gruppe Nordamerika. Cora's Shadow was a member of DL-GNA while the group was active but not yet officially sanctioned by the DLV. Her membership with DL-GNA has been reinstated.

Adam wrote: Not saying that I've been swayed because I certainly have not but what might be some other breeds that I could/should look in to. I have a few others in mind but would like to see some suggestions. The Deutsch Langhaar is another excellent versatile breed, particularly excelling in track...

You might also try doing some research on http://www.dl-gna.org about Deutsch Langhaars = English translation German Longhair. I have owned longhairs since 2004 should you have any questions about the breed.

The VDD among others have published articles on the sharp vs agressive topic.
Am getting stuff forwarded to me. Will share upon receipt.

Once again - sharpness on game is not the same thing as agression towards people or other dogs. Attempting to prove otherwise, only makes one look dumb. I think polling the a fair number of hunters, judges,(including NAVHDA judges) and dog owners whose precious scruffy has killed a cat will prove my...

No offense to you or others who have posted similar, but what you describe is a classic description of the "mis-naming" or whatever you want to call it - using the word sharpness interchangably with agressive, etc. A dog that does not get along with other dogs or people is dog-agressive or man agres...

I just returned from hunting in SD. Since I carried my gun and not a camera, I do not have loads of pictures to share. All three dogs did very well on pheasant, sharptail and hungarian partridge. A Hartenachweis test is not performed to "maintain" sharpness, but rather determine whether or not it is...

The DL-GNA did feel as did the JGHV and DLV and many here in the states as well, that a split was detrimental to the breed in this country. Some still feel that way. DL-GNA is not bitter. And we fully understand the purpose of the GLPCNA. Now those that either don't want to follow the rules or want ...

My reccomendation - if you're reseaching dogs, pick your breeder. Don't confuse nice with integrity.
So long for now, I'm going hunting!
I will tell Gerd Hornbergs hi for you Brenda when I meet him.

I agree, the "so many" are a reflection of percentage not numbers. There have been DLs and GLPs since the 1950s. When brought Breeze home in 2004, most commented that she was a really nice dog and/or the best they had seen. Most had seen only 1 other dog if any. Some were good, some ok, some not gre...

That's funny because they're not, and my comments were not in direct response to to your post, but rather the simple fact that many have seen one DL or GLP if they have ever seen any. And even if they had, most do not even know if it was a DL or a GLP and there is a difference and I took the opportu...

There are Deutsch Langhaars (DLs) and GLPs similar to the Deutsch Drathhaars and German Wirehairs and Deutsch Kurzhaars and German shorthairs. Cora's founding kennel bitch is actually a DL (a dog bred in regulation with the parent club the Deutsch Langhaar Verband), Cora vom Illertal from Illertal K...

There is no need for the defensive posturing. I would have no qualms about breeding to Birko either and I did state that I am sure he is a fine dog. I was simply agreeing with the former post as you yourself did when you identified that the US typically prefers a dog on a different end of the standa...

I have never, repeat never, known a German breeder to export a promising ADULT dog unless it had some issues...especially to an American or Canadian (we're guilty in both countries of breeding for a buck and messing up good dogs) You may want to get in contact with the Breed Warden in Germany and a...

After working together for nearly two years, a group of dedicated Deutsch Langhaar enthusiasts debuts a new breed club, Deutsch Langhaar Gruppe Nordamerika. With the election of officers and ratification of by-laws, Deutsch Langhaar Gruppe Nordamerika became officially established on September 14, 2...