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Stoneface

I have Pointers and Setters. I had Shorthairs for about fifteen years and couldn't find any that caught my fancy. My first dog was a heck of a dog, but didn't have the bottom of the long-tailed Pointers. I decided to try a Pointer and Setter. I looked up a couple of litter and bought them not knowin...

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I know about Leo. He sold him to a guy in South Carolina and he's going to Luke Eienharts today. Ross says he barks when he's on the breakaway. That's what got me interested in them.

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Has anyone had much experience watching Merritt Setters or does anyone own one? What do you think of them?

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Ray, was the dog Tommy B?

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I had a Pointer that loved the heat and hated the cold. I ran her in triple degree temperatures and she came home and laid in the sun without getting any water. She was just a freak. 1. Has anyone ever seen a Setter that comes anywhere near this? 2. Where did you see them at? 3. Who owned/owns them?...

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1. What type of cover do you typically hunt?

2. What kind of range do you consider ideal for the type of cover you hunt? (Please be specific, give yardage.)

3. Do you use a Garmin? Would you like to if you don't?

Stoneface

What you mentioned is far beyond force breaking, and let me ask the last time you hunted upland birds and saw a dog retrieve a duck that was dodging and diving. Name the number of competition dogs that fail at that level because they just aren't up to snuff. We're talking about an amateur, a novice ...

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It sounds like you need some treats. Seriously. People in birddogs look down on this and I don't know why. Get a hot dog, but it up and trade him a treat for the bumper or bird or whatever he is retrieving. Do it at the post first where he's used to taking birds and get awful excited when he's givi...

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Swampbilly wrote:
Stoneface wrote:I'm don't have any suggestions for you, but am posting to have it put at the top of the list. I'm surpirsed people aren't all over it with the way everyone is so crazy about force fetching a dog.
What's the problem with folks who want to get more out of their dogs?

I don't know what you mean.

Stoneface

Also, I don't teach Whoa any longer and NEVER, EVER use it on birds except in very special occasions.

Stoneface

I've changed the way I do things since that video was shot (and have lost some weight, too), but you have to thin about why she's following you in. She is afraid after all her work of finding the bird and pointing it, you're going to flush it and get it and she's going to be left in the cold. What y...

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I'm don't have any suggestions for you, but am posting to have it put at the top of the list. I'm surpirsed people aren't all over it with the way everyone is so crazy about force fetching a dog.

Stoneface

It depends. If the trainer is worth the money he'll accomodate them. Look at it like camp for kids. They've been in your house their whole lives (I imagine) and been treated well. A little time in a kennel, around other dogs will do them good. They'll be bolder coming back from his place. I would th...

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Something to think about is how you were watering. I was using nipples and had a great set up, but all the sudden my pigeons started dying and every time I got quail they started dying. Found out they weren't drinking. I don't now how the heck a bird forgets how to drink from a nipple, but they had ...

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It sounds like you need some treats. Seriously. People in birddogs look down on this and I don't know why. Get a hot dog, but it up and trade him a treat for the bumper or bird or whatever he is retrieving. Do it at the post first where he's used to taking birds and get awful excited when he's givin...

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It depends on what you're training the dog for and what method you want to use. I use Maurice's method mostly with a few hybrid drills of my own, so it would be a bad idea to go to clicker training in the field, but I use it to teach puppies tons of things. Here's a video of a man who has Setter pup...

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Has anyone ever read this or know anyone who has? I can't find if for cheaper than $100 and was wondering if it was that good.

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Always dig your videos.

Stoneface

It would not be easy to run a dog if you're working twelve hours a day. Get ahold of other kennels or dog daycares and see if they will work it out with you. I imagine you're working five days a week, so put an add on Craig's List or flyers around town advertising that you need a dog sitter for five...

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Was Cliff the brother you saw? Who were the pups out of?

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I know how they're bred. I hear this cross was done several times because the litters were incredible. I'd like to talk to someone who has seen the dogs I'm talking about or their pups. Have you seen their pups?

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Has anyone bred to these dogs, seen pups out of them or know anything about them?

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"Said he'd crawl up in a tree or the roof of a barn or some other place real high. Then someone would let a puppy in. He'd call for the puppy, using his name, and the puppy had to look at him." Years ago in an interview, I remember Mr. Miller saying something similar to this. He said that when he w...

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I've got a SkyDance dog and she is a heck of a nice one. Seriously enjoy your videos.

Cinna

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3 years before seeing a bird?! Cripes, if you wait until the dog's dead you can get really expect him to be staunch. I know my dog Cinna was mostly ran. Didn't hardly see a bird until she about two to two and a half and is staunch as heck. Since I've broken her he's gone on one bird of mine. I tell...

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There's a new video up on YouTube of Ferrell Miller, you can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN9Bj7x0jx4 A friend and I went to a trial yesterday and I mentioned the video to him. He said he'd gone to a seminar way back in the day and Ferrell said something that always stuck with him. S...

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I would stay away from Shadow Oak Bo blood. He's been bred so much - maybe more than any Setter in current history - and not produced hardly a winner. Look up his title and see what he's produced. He may be a good dog, but he's an outcross and reproducing what he's got is like finding a needle in a ...

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There is a Setter that's dead now, double bred The Performer. His name is New Hope and he was owned by the Smiths. He's a two time champion. Has anyone ever heard of him or know any of his offspring? Can you tell me anything about him or what he throws?

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I've already talked to Larry. Thanks, though.

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Did anyone here see this dog work? What did you think of him? What did you think of his puppies?

Stoneface

It does depend and you're in Kentucky, so there can be a wide range of cover you hunt. You may be talking about quail, woodcock and grouse or may go out of state to hunt. I will tell you, most people embellish on what 400 yards looks like and if their dog his it once they have a 400-yard dog. It's n...

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I would guess they are pen raised birds. If that's the case what's happening is he's not feeling the intensity. He flags because he knows he can. A dog points wild birds and does not flag because he realizes the movement - any movement - will get the birds up and gone in a hurry. They flag once or t...

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A shooting club with quail, pigeons and all the equipment you could want for your DIY dog training venture. If you're not looking for DIY, we can train your dog for you or with you. As well as guided and unguided hunts, shooting range, clays, etc. Poetry Shooting Club at www.PoetryShootingClub.com. ...

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Rig it up with a Scat Matt or mouse traps. Invite her in. Won't take many time.

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If you don't stop a dog until after they flush, they'll find it silly to flush. What I mean is, a lot of people go on to correct a dog when they move, after the point. They think they're putting it out of the mind of the dog to creep. They're not. There's a big wall the dog has to get over saying, "...

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As long as she doesn't catch it, let her chase them. If she gets on wild birds you're not teaching her to chase, you're teaching her she can't catch them. If she get plenty of contact with birds, she'll forget the rabbits for the most part. She may take out after them, but come back after she gets a...

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I got a call this evening from a man named Dane Harris from Alabama. Apparently, Cinna's a ranked member of the birddog world and was invited to the National Amateur Invitational. Super nice piece of information to have. I'll post an update to say how she does.

Stoneface

We've had placement in the SW Missouri WALKING FTC, Tulsa Bird Dog Association and the Puppy and Derby Classic. We're working on the Missouri Amateur Shooting Dog of the Year. We're planning on a litter at the end of this season. You can read more at www.StonefaceKennels.com.

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Here you go. Lineup of winners.

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Had a good time at our first trial of the year. NBHA and ten dogs in the shooting dog stake. Scenting conditions were super tough and there was more green cover than I care to remember, but we came away with a first place. On a side note I met Bob Barker of Ch. Barker's Blue Jet. Seriously nice guy.

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Get a SportDOG No Bark 6. It's all you'll ever need. It's water proof, so it can go anywhere, and when it detects a bark it starts at the lowest level and works it's way up to six. I never had a dog go all the way to six. Just turn it on and put it on your dog. I wouldn't own a SportDOG eCollar, but...

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My dog, Cinna, got Missouri Gun Dog of the Year this year. She would have won the national title if I hadn't come up short by the end of the season. Ran her in nine braces, placed her seven times including a second in the Bob Catlett Memorial Classic Amateur Shoot Dog. Not too bad for a guy from the...

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Seriously nice work, man. You ought to be proud... especially for such a young dog. Don't discount trials so quick, though. Cinna has done well this season and on several points she has relocated (as long as I wasn't in front of her to flush) several times to pin a bird. There's a big difference bet...

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Cinna cleared a field of fourteen dogs to win a 3-point major yesterday. Just seven points to go and she will be a field champion. It was a great trial put on by the super nice folks at the Heart of America GSP Club (would recommend going to any event this club puts on) and got to run against some f...

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Cinna cleared a field of fourteen dogs to win a 3-point major yesterday. Just seven points to go and she will be a field champion. It was a great trial put on by the super nice folks at the Heart of America GSP Club (would recommend going to any event this club puts on) and got to run against some f...

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No, this is judged on a dog's ground application and bird work. You just walk the course for an hour, flush the bird when your dog goes on point, fire a blank pistol the. Send them on.

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Cinna took second in a field of ten dogs in amateur shooting dog at the Bob Catlett Classic today with four beautiful finds. Feeling pretty good about that. She was beat out by the dog I am looking to breed her to (who swept the open and ateurbstatus shooting dog), so that dampens the sting a little...

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Cinna took second in a field of ten dogs in amateur shooting dog at the Bob Catlett Classic today with four beautiful finds. Feeling pretty good about that. She was beat out by the dog I am looking to breed her to (who swept the open and ateurbstatus shooting dog), so that dampens the sting a little...

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