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Pam cooking spray helps with removing mats! My setters like it a little to well but works! Also helps if you spray the long hair before they hit the brush & reapplying it through out the day make brushing out easier! Cleans right out with a bath after a day afield!

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There's a pause all tracking... I believe that will stop it to & from your hunt!

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Need a replacement Antenna for Alpha tt15 collar... Puppy chewed both the original antennas while it was on the other dog!
I know none will stand up to puppy chewing! But are any better than the original antenna?

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What does breeding for color & texture have to do with training? Trainig is training... Whether it's for hunting, obedience, or show. The trainer teaches the dog to accomplish the task to be performed! Be it for the show ring , hunting ,obedience or field trails... I reckon ,when folks concentrate o...

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Hunting all day is not inclusive of the "field trial type" vs. "show type"! Dual Ch Can Ch Set'r Ridge's Solid Gold CDX MH HDX CGC owned by Setter Ridge English Setter http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/tafinder/image_1.jpg Good looking Setter... the only problem hunting him would be mine. I ...

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Hunting all day is not inclusive of the "field trial type" vs. "show type"!

Dual Ch Can Ch Set'r Ridge's Solid Gold CDX MH HDX CGC owned by Setter Ridge English Setter

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Thanks so much! She is really a nice puppy!
She is from Dual/Show lines!
Pm sent with info! pato y codoniz

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Learning about Bees is a tough lesson... Hope our pup avoids that one! Porcupines are abundant here too! Hope to avoid that one also!

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Although we would have preferred lighter markings... easier to see in the field. No issue... can't be any worse than hunting with a Gordon in the shadows of trees or a Viszla in the Cornfields back in the midwest! She has the Dual lines we were seeking & most of all we liked the attitude! Thanks for...

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We went to Seattle on saturday to meet a breeder & came home with our new field companon!
Stalking grasshopper in the yard! Wonder what the daily bag limit on grasshoppers is? Recipes anyone?

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I always feel 7 to 12 weeks is a good time to evaluate a litter! The breeder should be able to shed some insight into the Pup personalities. They have time to observe the pups as to which pups eat first (dominance), explore (independence), & Play (social standing). How they react to new situations? ...

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We have had Both Shorthairs & Vizslas! In our expierence Vizsla's are very family oriented & Our Shorthairs were not... the shorthairs were difficult to house break, neurotic when left alone... Bark, whine, Dig hole(outside) & chew everything (if not crated). Both hunted well our Vizsla Had the best...

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Our first Vizsla was very smart & had very little coat underneath ... Teaching new things kept his destructive chew in check! Can't see where adding agility would impact his field performance... As teaching ours silly palor tricks didn't! Ours was alway fine hunting in very cold Iowa winters! Just k...

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We use it in the house with current dog... So far not an issue! But have seen a softer tempered dog revert to it... with a little pressure. I never used sit with our setters that we showed... Judges only views the dog for a short time in the show ring... Didn't need the dog sitting at the wrong time!

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My Apologies Dan, I've been out of Gordons for some time!

dan v wrote:
S'setter wrote: Dan/Becky Voss, MN... Wyndancer Gordon Setters,
I am no longer affiliated with Wyndancer Gordon Setters.

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Try any of the following.... Susan DeSilver Gordon Hill setters Ct. (203) 484-4738... Some of the nicest Dual Type Gordons Matt/Wendy Czarnecki..AZ. Bright Star Setters! Has a web site Again really nice Dual type Dan/Becky Voss, MN... Wyndancer Gordon Setters, Has a web site... Very Nice Gordons Gre...

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Possible puppy acne? Several of our dogs had them. One Gordon had them really bad because we were showing him at the time ...the vet perscribe something! But normally they run the course!

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Ray brought up a good point about heat & black coat! Some of our gordons handled heat with no issue but others didn't... Seems to be an indivaul thing not a strain! Coat textures can also be a part of this... Some have a tremendous amount of under coat. Keeping it brushed out can be a challenge! Som...

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Gordon's have two basic types the larger grouse (show) type (50-80 lbs.) & the smaller type! The smaller type can have more range than what you said you require. However they have stamina, style, & intensity on point! The larger type are slower less range more along the 50 to 200 yrd. They often car...

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Although I know it's not a very popular opinion but I prefer a level to 10 O'clock tail... With points I have always been partial to more traditional setter stances. I dont compete in trials and really have no interest in doing so. While I can appreciate the high tails and so called style thats been...

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Mine's a 28 ga.. It was $1700 new, seen a few used $13-15! I really like it!

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Thanks for the great reports on the Alpha collars! I really like the Alpha concept of knowing where the dog is at any time & being able to correct! But the price, various reports of charging & battery problems.I really thought Garmin would correct the Tri-Tronics terrible warrenty & customer service...

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Thx Vman... I have not needed the GPS to date with this pup... But she's young? Really like the simple buttons!

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Thx again for all the input! I'm still researching the sires! Anyone have any further suggestions? Please feel free to Pm me with suggestions if you prefer!
I've been contacting the owners to find out more.

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My old Tri-tronics field 70 (G2) is failing again (probably batteries again)! I've decided to replace it (after 4 sets of batteries & 2 repairs in 10 years)! Been researching new ones... Have searched & read most of the comments here... After marginal reliability with tri-tronics always quits workin...

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Wild apple kennel I believe has some nice elhew blood out of Wynot ace. I think nitro kennels and superior kennels has elhew blood too. I have heard that crossing Blackhawk to elhew is pretty good nick. Matt has some nice dogs with elhew fiber base. Thanks... Took a look at those sites! Liked a sup...

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Thanks for the info, input & advice! I like the four rivers commander
dog but am concerned about his range!
But he is the style & type.

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I have a young elhew female pointer! Have bred several setter litter in the past. Fully understtand the pitfalls of breeding! So i'm consdering breeding her down the road! She's a fibber & sinbad grandaughter both sides! Even though there are many fine pointer lines out there! I'm only interested in...

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It's the plain version of the Beretta Model S57E or S56e... The S57 & S56 has more engraving! Great balance, fast to bring up on the bird! My favorite, My father has an S57E over/under he shipped back from Italy! I want one to go with the pointer pup I just got!

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Thx! She's a sweet pup! Now as long as the wife doesn't see your avatar...
Then life is good!

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New Pointer Pup... Check!

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Get new Pointer pup... Don't tell my wife!!!
Start pups training
Get new Beretta o/u to shoot birds
Get new reloader to reload new Beretta
Tell my wife sorry & suffer her wrath.... Hmmmm
maybe better add dozen Roses to this list

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Yep horse hair conditioner work well, just make sure you get it washed out before the big day in the ring!

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Beretta O/U gets my vote...

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Thread & alcohol... We tied the Corded off with thread to insure no excess bleeding. A cotton ball with alcohol to insure it's clean...
An extra set of hands to rub the pups & clean them up... rubbing stimulates the pup (like mom licking them).

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I agree quality food is the Key! When we showed Gordon's we sprayed them with oil (horse products are cheaper) the week before the show then washed the Oil completely Out the day before the Show! Then put a large towel over the back & pin it carefully at the neck, stomach, & tail! Helps keep the lon...

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My condolences to his family & friends... He was truly a remarkable person! I met him a field event many years ago. He took the time to answer all my novice questions & even followed up the next week to make sure I didn't have any more!

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BNSF Railway… The Structures dept.( Brigdes & Buildings)… I like it, Good place to work! My favorite job was a "Lower than Dirt" School Bus Driver!!! I miss my 120+ students

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We got a new one in 02 when they first came out. We have had no problems with it... works good for hauling Dogs & Gear to the field... It a great truck to drive to the field & does a reasonable job off road!!! I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one!!!

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Yep... Good here too!

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The OP asked how to do it... not what I think about it! I do agree it's entertaining! We don't use it for anything else!

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Neil wrote:
Without defaming Mr. Wolters, that is the last book I would reccommend.

For "Wing training" Wolters book has simple instructions & many illustrations to demonstrate wing training... Good for a novice to learn! But as i said still needs real bird experience!

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The Book "Gun Dog" written by Richard A. Wolters deals with how to train using a Wing! Most of the things you are asking are in the Book. With the right dog (Very Strong pointing instinct) some things can be done with a wing... but nothing beats bird experience in my opinion. Thru planting pigeons o...

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Thank You...
Our son was Killed In Iraq... To the Soldiers still fighting... Our Faith in you has NEVER wavered !!!
To all families of Fallen Soldiers & the families of those Serving... You are all Heroes To Our Family!

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I found a few along the Missouri River.

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Thanks to all for the great Input... I'm gonna run down some leads...
Long hair isn't a Big Deal we Showed Gordon Setters for many years... So we are use to grooming!
The Type DonF poted is exactly the type we are looking for...

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We are looking for a New field/home companion. Breeds: Irish, Irish red & White, or English Setter. We want a Female, close working, Larger Type Setter... I just getting older and enjoy the casual hunt. AKC registered... Just our preference no offense!!! So if anyone has any leads to upcoming litter...

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We are currently looking for a Pup like yours, out of this type lines... Is this what you are breeding? Any litters coming?

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