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At least you would have something to go on. As of right now there is nothing.

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Let's not be fooled here. It takes money to own a major circuit all age dog. Let's hear the figures Neil. How much does it take to maintain a dog on the major circuit for a year?

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That sounds good until you come up on the wrong side of deal here.

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With all of the equipment and supplies and animals being sold between members here why is there no feedback section? I think it would benefit the folks here to be able to know who to deal with and who not to deal with. I do a lot of buying and selling on other forums and they have feedback sections ...

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Considering in 2004 there were only 6300 pointers whelped and registered in the fdsb and akc, including pets and show dogs, you make no sense. Ya I agree there aren't a lot og dogs that can do it but the odds of finding one if you know what you are doing and know how to do it is drasticly lower. Th...

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Saddle, I am going to go out on a limb, but wouldn't you say that pretty well all those dogs in Grand Junction right now have littermates who are someones jam up brag hunting dog, and have probably near the potential of their brothers running in the national. Absolutely not. 1 in a 1000 dogs has wh...

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Good word!!! Poke a little fun and folks go ballistic!! Owning a gun is a RIGHT....hunting is a privilege... Owning a gun is also a privilege and one that can be taken away if you commit a felony offense. Freedom of speech is a right. You have the right to remain silent. Owning a gun is a privilege.

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Saddle, I am going to go out on a limb, but wouldn't you say that pretty well all those dogs in Grand Junction right now have littermates who are someones jam up brag hunting dog, and have probably near the potential of their brothers running in the national. Absolutely not. 1 in a 1000 dogs has wh...

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99% of the time hunting in MIchigan you never even see the dog. In a true hunting situation I could care less where his head or tail is. I just want to walk over the next hill in the direction the Garmin tells me and see him rock solid pointing a bird. This to me is the primary difference between a...

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With that kind of reasoning, we would never know if a dog is a natural pointer or not...or if a dog could hold wild birds....or if a trainer put birds in the hedgerow 500 yds away to train a dog to reach. I'm stretching the point, but your reasoning sounds stretched...if we have to train it, how do...

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I have some buddies there and they are all telling me that the River Fever bitch run by Billy Wayne Morton was by far the best on the ground. They say it wasn't even close. They're convinced the setter and Dialing in aren't in the mix.

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slistoe wrote:Judge:
B- dog is aware of presence of bird and causes it to flush with movement (because of improper use of wind). Dog is out of contention.

To me this is negative judging and looking for a reason to throw a dog out.

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Chukar this was a throw down trial you are correct in that assumption. The only reason that the above quote caught me off guard is because I was thinking the exact same thing but never thought I'd hear him say it. I am of the opinion though that a good broke dog should be able to handle any and all ...

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I'm of the opinon Greg that you can't judge under assumptions. I don't think you can handle that way either. If I show up and my dog is standing like described above I would dismount and make a good flusing attempt. IMO a good judge would ride up with you and if he sees the bird in the open field wi...

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Allin I don't think your pup has to be nominated but for the futurity the have to have been nominated by the breeder of the litter. Futurities are fun to watch. There are some nice animals that get turned loose there.

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Sorry but you don't sound like a person who knows what they are doing. You dog (and you for that matter) could benefit from some professional help that's all I'm saying. I have ruined some dogs because of my lack of knowledge and my inability to swallow my pride and ask for help from someone who kne...

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Ol big sugar has been crying the same song since time and memorial. Responding to him only encourages him to cut and paste the same posts. I wouldn't call it crying so much moreso just reporting what I see and what I have been told. I'll give you a couple of examples. I ran my bitch in an NBHA CH i...

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I personally no longer believe that field trials are about finding the best hunting dog. If I wanted a dog to retrieve I would go get a lab. Having said that my dog's retrieve the hand naturally on their own. It's a nice feature of the dog but I could really care less. There are so many more things ...

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Is this the same dog that in another thread was almost ruined for you guys shooting over it improperly. If so please go to a club and get help. There are many many accomplished flushing guys here that can help you. I appreciate your gusto for wanting to train your dog but you need expert help. If I'...

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This is all a moot point really because the American field will never sanction an event where live ammunition is fired to kill birds. AKC maybe American Field no way.

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Oh boy I bet that would be a funny sight.

Most judges I think are honest but you get what I'm saying. The prejudice from the top levels is very real. Towards Miller dogs

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That all sounds nice in theory Greg but if that's the case then why did they ban Millers dogs and not just him. How long do you think it'll take before white powder gets into the Hall of Fame. Does anyone on this board really think that game maker and southern pride contributed more to the pointer b...

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I've heard it said by some folks that I trust that will be really hard for a Miller prefix dog to win the National. why? Miller wasn't a very popular guy upon his exit from trialing. Bernie doesn't have a strong conviction for Miller or his dogs. I'm sure it burned him up that southern pride was el...

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Over 10 years ago when I guided hunts we used a lab with our pointers. We taught him to back by sitting. He would do it on his own just like a pointing dog. When we got to the dogs we would command him to flush the birds. The pointers were broke and stood broke every time. They got used to him being...

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I've heard it said by some folks that I trust that will be really hard for a Miller prefix dog to win the National.

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My setup slides into the receiver hitch on the front of my Arctic Cat.

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1 of the exciting things about Randy's string is his derbies might be just as good if not better than the dogs hes running now.

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I would call jack a pretty good birddog as well. Not just all run. heck you've run against him. He's a hard dog to run down if you're chasing him in his own tracks. I think randy will dial him down enough to make a good showing. This is one of the reasons they're not running Sam (Three Ten to Yuma)....

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I've watched jack go and he goes no matter who is in the saddle. Should be a great bra e though.

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Take the outside bed out and let him freeze if he has any sense at all he'll go in his doghouse.

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Upnorth the difference is in physical ability not training. I can train my walking horse on the track as much as I want. He would still get smoked by a thoroughbred on the Kentucky derby. You cannot train physical ability upnorth and no one will ever convince me that you can. Its like trying to trai...

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One big key is to do progesterones on your bitch. Its an added cost but you can peg the bitch just right.

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I have had the procedure done three times all at the clinic in Abilene KS. They are true experts there as they AI hundreds of greyhounds a year. My first instance was with a Brittany bitch that was 3 at the time and had never been bred. They thawed the semen and tested it. It was good. They implante...

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Ted is 8 now I believe.

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Ted (Prairieland Pride) has finished the 3 hours I think 3 years in a row now. Randy likes Jack's chances. I like Top (white dollar) myself he's a youngster though.

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It's an interesting fact to me and I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned that these great hunting dogs are often from the great all age dogs. It seems to be a secret the hunting dog guys don't want anybody to know. Truth be known the great all age dogs produce way more great hunting dogs then they ...

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The ones that just run around don't win.

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Ezzy you're heck bent on running me down. Its ok. I guess I consider Kansas dog of the year awards, nbha dog of the year awards, many field trial wins and placements and a good gundog side training business success. What I actually said is that I'm having little success finding a top notch all age d...

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I think if you hunt the dog in the same manner you trial him you'll be ok. I never foot hunt my horseback dogs.

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Ezzy when I decide to breed a dog it is entirely with my own wants and needs in mind. I'm only after the kind of dog I want and really couldn't care less what everyone else is looking for. I think there are a lot of folks who breed with only one thought behind it and that's just to sell pups. I'm no...

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100% genetics. If they don't have it, environment will not give it to them. Once they are born, 99% environment (everyone knows of "that dog" that is great despite the owner/trainer) This is not accurate at all. Even if a dog is gifted genetically if he's not developed right he won't turn out right...

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I think people's definition of "still going hard" is vastly different sometimes.

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I think the GPS has taught me a bunch about my dogs. My derby is pretty consistent off the horse for an hour at about 11.5 to 12 mph avg for the hour. That's in wide open flint hill country of KS that is rocky but nothing like chukar country but hilly and rocky and rough just the same. In the bottom...

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This is a really good subject. If I feel for 1 second that my dog is starting to slow and pace hisself I pick him up. I think you want a birddog to be in shape but I don't think you want them to ever think they're going to be on the ground for 5 hours. That leads them to think they need to pace them...

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I second Boone's thought. I don't even think this something the majority of hunters will notice.

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This is cool. There are a lot of different backgrounds from all over the country it looks like. We're currently trying to get our derby ready for the Midwestern States Shooting Dog Futurity. We're headed to an NBHA CH next week. Someone said it gets expensive. They're right.

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It was never my intent to offend anyone if I did I apologize for that.

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My britts came from Dave and Fay out your way. I couldn't win AF events with them no matter how good they were. I bought a Miller bred pointer in 97 and he wasn't near the dog my britts were but he won a lot. Go figure.

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SubMariner wrote:
Saddle wrote:Just want to get an idea of the trialers here and what venue do you compete in?
We live in Central Florida & FT (walking as neither of us ride) all over the state & sometimes in GA. We also do Hunt Tests & Obedience.

Cool. Never been to a hunt test.

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