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Do you want your dog to find raw meat or birds?
If birds I'd put birds out for him. (Live ones) and see how his nose is.
The nose can and does mature.

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If he is collar conditioned this should help. If not this should still help. You'll need birds, pigeon or quail are sufficient. Some of this will probably sound crazy but it works. Bare with me. I don't know if your following a program or not. Going with your not. Plant a bird bring him in on it get...

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Pigeons are easier to keep. I only use quail as shooting birds.
If your worried thinking if you only train with pigeon that your dog won't find quail later on. Don't..
It's in their blood. They'll find any game bird your in chase of.

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Plant a bird. Keep control so she can't catch it with a check chord.

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I think some of the young guys are reading all of this thinking "really is this what I want to be a part of" lol joking. Coming from the younger generation. I think a lot want to do try it. I think more are involved I nstra then akc. Coming from personal feelings. I prefer to run my dogs under foot....

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A fair amount of people on this board always resort to laziness,work ethic etc etc.... of the younger geneation and IF that is the kind of reception younger people get at these events maybe you have the answer and do not even realize it.. I think this says/explains a lot of maybe why. Who wants to ...

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After reading through this im confused.
I thought stop to flush was the dog stops and stands on a wild flushed bird. A bird that is never pointed or scented.
A bird thats pointed and flushes after is steady to flush and or bump.
These are two different scenarios to me.
And taught in different ways.

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You should be able to come in from any direction on an honest dog. But for training purposes come in from an angle towards the dogs front. But not where your going to put the bird up right into the dogs face. ;) Since your not using launchers (assuming) keep some birds in a bag and have one in hand ...

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It all about Ethics and most of you have none so I can see your point. I've stated facts only. I didn't have an accidental breeding. I didn't sell something that was not mine to sell without paying for it first. I sure as heck didn't sell puppies to owners with the promise that everything was alrig...

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DUDE YOU ARE BREEDING DOGS WITH JH AND NA TITLES....... HOW PROVEN CAN THEY REALLY BE? Jim I really don't care to get involved in the bs. But you have said this twice now. (Referring to bitches in your first post with good background but low titles) Go look at a majority of pedigree bitches rarely ...

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Stick to the perfect start program.
Don't confuse yourself or the dog.

Barrels and tables are nice but you have to basically start all over on the ground after barrel anyway.
More work imo.

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I don't understand how its "stealing" They offered to pay after dna shown his dog was the stud. Were they supposed to just offer out a $1000 to each stud when it happened? I would think not. Its an accident. Take the "free" money and run. If the dogs end up being great. It'll just prove your dog. If...

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The thing tgat would worry me the most is. Is my stud hips checked or any other testing I may choose to do. And my number one scare on the bitch part Brusolious check. And hips on her too as well as any other choosed tests. If you feel they took you make the bitch get chic certified. Won't hurt anyt...

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Unless you can prove that your trainer took you for a ride and used your dog purposely to breed another dog. Its an accident. I get the feeling by what your saying something fishy was going on. Maybe seek another trainer from here on out. Why was a bitch in heat with male dogs unsuppervised? A train...

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DNA was pending before they sold pups. I have a closed line which means pups are sold with limited registration,to ensure only the best pups produced may be bred. It is a policy AKC allows breeders to select the best offspring. The bitch owner only gets the option to choose that. (Limited reg). Stu...

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I would take the stud fee and register the pups.
Win & win

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I don't get it. Crossbreeding is how we got all dog breeds. If you breed purebreds you are essentially just breeding cousins. Cross breeding is proven to produce hybrid vigor, heterosis. , Hybrid" is not the point of breeding. Yes different breeds were used long ago to make what we have today. Why ...

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Frankug, They normally don't stretch like a pointer would. And majority aren't breed for that. A gsp is a gentlemans dog and hunts with/for the gentleman. They're by no means a boot licker though. (Majority) Horseback or walking is up to the person. Either will work. Obviously they are going bto ran...

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50 years ago people looked down on the German shorthaired pointer.
Amazing how much the little guy from germany has proved since then.
A once mocked prince in the shadows has become king of the land and water.
And a hunters Nobel friend.

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Have you tried socialising the pup?
Taking him for walks in town, going to stores, different places where things are happening.
New sights sounds around every corner. New people.

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I wouldn't advise it. Teaching the habit could make training harder latter on. Also there is a chance of development of hard mouthing. As to playing fetch... don't be in a hurry to take the object from the pup. Let him hold it for a little bit and just praise him for coming back with it. Then grab t...

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as the title explains I have an issue that needs resolved pronto! my GSP is a year and a half-ish old..... I got him from my brother in law when he was 9 months old, and had zero training. I've been doing my best with him, however unless he has a shock collar on, he is completely bat "bleep" crazy ...

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My question is, is it possible to practice a dogs pointing skills without a live bird? If so, how? A dead bird perhaps? Or do we just need to go to the local trainer and buy/rent a few live birds to practice with on the weekends? If you want the dog hunting and pointing dead birds I would think You...

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Coles I don't mean to sound like a jag. But the only way to make a bird dog is with birds. You back up to a hay field so building a coop and keeping homers should be no problem. I live in town where keeping of pigeons isn't tolerated but my neighbors are cool, love watching me work my dogs and don't...

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Richk You have to get on a list months in advance. Look now for planned fall litters and put down a deposit.. Sometimes I wait two years for one im really into. Also don't put the little guys to the side either. Some exceptional litters come from the small guys too. Check out gundogs online, gundog ...

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I would run the gsp separate until he is honest on his birds.
He is confused as to what his actual job is.

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I'm following perfect start/perfect finish. They have you working on birds with your dog before you introduce "whoa". It seems to be popular opinion not to use "whoa" around birds, rather you let the bird do the teaching (in conjunction with the launcher)....at least that's what I have gathered. I ...

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She's 3 years old (only JUST started her on birds), never hunted. When she was on point today the couple of times, she stayed put until I started walking forward. It seemed as soon as she heard the crunch on footsteps she took off. I hold the cord . Sorry I'm a newbie here, whats yard work? Yard wo...

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Blue Weims are not an accepted color in any Kennel Club.....so we breed those too!

I think that right there is the most disrespectful statement any wana be breeder could say about a breed.
Quoted right from their page. SMH

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Their mission statement is rediculous as well. Never heard of a long hair weim either. Why?! Some people seem to not be able to be satisfied with the breeds our ancestors took many years to create. And have to have their own more important qualities they just have to add. If it ain't broke dont fix ...

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Have the dt one same concept.
Never used it in the way your wanting to. But don't see why it shouldn't work. Both a blank pistol and that use the same crimps.
Maybe you don't have to have the dummy on it to shoot. Never tried it without a dummy though.
Im not helping much huh. Lol

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Do not stop at interstate pet rest areas----your pup will not have full resistance against parvo, lepto, etc. yet.---every sick dog traveling across the nation stop at these areas :( . Have your pup pee in areas that normally aren't used for dogs. Good luck with the new pup :D Good advice. I just s...

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If the dog is crate trained to kennel on command. Take the crate out of the truck put it on the ground and kennel him up a few times with a lead on. Then put the crate back in the truck while he is watching. Put your hand on the crate and tell him kennel. If he avoids it. Walk him away on lead a cou...

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My last pup was 7 hours. The longest. Stopped twice for a pee break. Have to think for the pup is my opinion bathroom wise. Even though it didn't happen to me. Be prepared like Karen said for vomit. Always a possibility. Not really much you need besides that and a lap for him to sleep on. I brought ...

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Meller wrote:Shoot, Shovel & Shutup

Thanks
Thought it was sh!t, shower, and shave. Don't know how that would have fit into the topic but thats my term or three S' s lol.

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What is SS&S? Just wondering. ..

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I have heard some states allow deer hunters to shoot dogs bothering their hunt. There was an incident like this that happend just last yeat with a bow hunter shootting a bird hunters dog. While I will not justify a deer hunter or anyone else shooting mine or someone elses dog. It would probably be b...

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There are so many different proven methods that labelling one as "best" iis useless. What works for you is what works. Imo stop killing birds for him to start. A bird is the reward when you the trainer decide its time to reward him. During training exercises ill let birds fly away even on a broke do...

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Ms. Cage wrote:
pointstar wrote: tri color GSP's are only of true German breeding where black is an accepted color....
Say WHAT!!!!

What she said^^^^^^^

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I hunt with one dog down most of the time. One,two,three or more doesn't make a difference. I just love seeing dogs honor one another when I have more then one down. That's the only plus side for me. I train my dogs to go in a straight line infront of me aways and work back in a zig-zag. For me this...

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. I don't know how some guys do it though who live in a more urban environment. How do you get your high energy dogs enough exercise on a daily basis without that off leash run? Comed property, or fire lanes. I've been training, and running on a fire lane about 5 mins from my house for years. And I...

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Why do you think it's a "band-aid"? Or that it "expidites" training? When it is neither. Just because one or more trainers uses an ecollar in their approach doesn't mean they have no patience or that they don't know what they are doing. An ecollar is just another helpful tool. It's no different then...

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The whistle with pointing dogs only means GO!. Not to start an argument, but why should all pointing dogs be trained like a trial dog? When not all are or willing... To the op question, it's good to mix it up, but to many commands with a whistle can get confusing, even for the handler. Pick 3 comma...

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I'm not trying to start an argument with ezzy, just explaining to him, why I was thinking maybe it could be from the bird. But like I initially said I'll never know really. It could be from something else in the yard. Regardless, that's not my topic, my topic is if this is normal with some birds and...

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Idk, the poor dog could have thought they were love pecks and stood there taking it until it started to hurt. :D :| . I looked again and there is absolutely nothing under there for him to get hung up on. Only a smooth layer of chicken wire down there, no screws, nails of any kind for reasons like th...

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I need some input. I have this baby that's about 3 or4 weeks old. Since he was a tiny guy he has always been kind of mean. Won't let me grab him or anything. He just swats his wings at me, and picks. Half hour ago I was out their letting the older birds out and I tried again grabbing him and this ti...

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I get the same problem every few years. Fly predators work, but are costly. What I do is hang fly traps around the kennel, not the old sticky tape looking ones, but an actual fly trap. They have them at homedepot, Walmart, etc. Also clean the whole kennel down with bleach, and let it sit a while bef...

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Pretty sweat! But not worth the price tag IMO. Roostermom, There are some decent front loading vests and jackets out there. Check out what Browning has to offer. My wife got the bird n light with zip off sleves and they have a vest like the one here by Browning that I use , nothing special but front...

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You could set them up with another stud that is close, or same lines as yours.. just a suggestion.

Things come up, plans change, always good to have a backup plan for the bitch and or stud. Regardless of anything dogs are a hobby, and personal life comes first.

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I hear ya. A dog will hunt any way you choose to train them. But you must understand that they will get out there some. In the open my dogs will get way out circle and work back towards me. I like it done this way and I prefer it better then any other way. In the woods they will do the same but I'll...

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